[00:00:00] Speaker A: And as we're getting off the coach, the tour director said, here is a voucher that most of the stores in town should accept so you can get some coffee. And he handed every family a little brown envelope. So I said to Harv, oh, let's see if the voucher works here. And we opened it up, and there were €50 in the envelope.
[00:00:29] Speaker B: I mean, they weren't wrong. It is a form of voucher that anybody takes.
[00:00:34] Speaker A: I might be wrong.
[00:00:47] Speaker B: Welcome back, everybody, to this week's episode, live episode of the DCL duo podcast, brought to you by my path unwinding travel. And we have to welcome Karen from my path unwinding travel, who just sneezed.
[00:00:59] Speaker C: Right at the top of this show.
[00:01:01] Speaker B: It's fine. Live.
[00:01:03] Speaker A: Hi, everybody. Sorry about that.
[00:01:05] Speaker C: This is live television, you guys.
Anyway, we're so happy to have you on, Karen. So for those listening to this episode, I want to put a little disclaimer on this episode. We're like. We're veering outside of cruising. So if you don't want to listen to some non cruising content, scroll to a different episode and don't leave us a nasty gram.
[00:01:30] Speaker B: It's still relatable to Disney because what we're talking about is talk, which is a. Like an adventures by Disney covers land vacations, river cruising vacations. And Karen's going to chat with us a bit about her experience with talk, how it compares to Abdeh. And, you know, whether it might be right thing for you to consider talk, maybe instead of ABD or what the pros and cons are of each. So that's the discussion for this evening, and I'm excited to dive into it because we've done an ABD. We haven't done anything else. And Karen has talked her ear off in the background about maybe doing something talk. So I'm excited to hear what it's all about. So, Karen, absolutely.
[00:02:11] Speaker C: I'm just giving that disclosure because, like I said, we got a. We got a review on Apple Podcasts of somebody who said we talked much about things that are not Disney cruise line and too much about the Marvel Cinematic universe, which was kind of weird of a comment. But anyway, I'm kind of joking.
[00:02:26] Speaker A: But you know what, y'all, if you are a Disney cruiser.
[00:02:31] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:02:32] Speaker A: This topic is so relevant because Disney cruisers love exploring the world with their families in style. And we've talked about adventures by Disney, which is such a logical next step from Disney Cruise line. And we've talked some about river cruising with Talc. I think. I think we had an episode when I got back from the River Cruise Expo.
[00:02:56] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:02:57] Speaker A: And so I think this is just such a great topic to talk about. Tauc. It's pronounced talk.
Lips don't go that way. But.
But Talc has been around 100 years. Next year is their 100th anniversary.
[00:03:17] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:03:18] Speaker A: Yeah. So they are a well, well established tour company, and, in fact, I think, in a lot of ways, adventures by Disney likely must have done some research in designing their product with Talc. And I just got back from Ireland with Talc Bridges, which is their family friendly destination. And I. There's just so much to talk about in terms of what Talc has to offer for families, for adults. How does it compare to adventures by Disney? So you all are probably going to have to rein me in, because I'll just start going.
[00:03:53] Speaker C: We love it. We love it.
[00:03:56] Speaker B: Let's start with what was the trip that you just took?
How long was it? Where'd you go? And it's recent, so it's within the last few weeks or month. So when was it? How was it? Where'd you go?
[00:04:08] Speaker A: So we did the Talc Bridges Ireland forever tour, which is sort of their traditional Ireland start and end in Dublin, and kind of go around that southern part of Ireland for seven nights. Bridges is their family friendly section of Talc. So this was, you know, a family friendly itinerary. So Harv and I went really to, first of all, experience talc bridges because we had experienced talc on the river cruise and loved it, and we wanted to see how they handled their land vacations, and we wanted to see how it compared with adventures by Disney, which we have experienced six or seven times now and. And really love. So, um, this was a talc tour that started end of July in Dublin.
[00:05:05] Speaker B: And let's talk for a second about sort of in the process of talks land tour. We're gonna have a drinking game for everyone out there. Talks land tour.
What kinds of. So, beyond Dublin? Like, where else can you go? Is it a similar footprint to adventures by Disney? Is it primarily Europe? Like, what's their footprint look like?
[00:05:30] Speaker A: So Talc Bridges is where I think we should focus, because that is their family centered product, has a lot of overlap with adventures by Disney and some differences. So they have many european destinations. They are going to Japan next summer for the first time. They have canadian rockies. They have some out west vacation experiences. They have several river cruises, including a Portugal family bridges tour, which is something that adventures by Disney does not have tried to have. And we lost it in the pandemic. It hasn't come back.
And they do have an Africa safari that is in Tanzania, which is a different destination, Disney, that focuses on South Africa. So there's a lot of overlap.
But overall, I think talc bridges their family has fewer dates and fewer itineraries than adventures by Disney does.
Talc as a whole is bigger than adventures by Disney. So the ones that are more geared towards adults, there's just countless destinations.
[00:06:53] Speaker B: But, you know, no around the world jet tour that hits all Disney parks.
[00:06:59] Speaker C: Now in the. In the river cruising space, I imagine Talc. Talc has their own ships, right? That's my actually.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: Well, not really. Sort of.
[00:07:10] Speaker C: Oh, interesting.
[00:07:11] Speaker A: Talc charters their ships, but like, permanently, right? So they work with a company called Scylla. So they have, like, long term leases on their ships. But it is similar to the relationship between Abd and amawaterways in that the crew is not talc. The crew is on the river cruises is by a company called Scila. So the people that are, you know, the bartenders, the servers, the, you know, people that are in the captain, you know, all of those folks are from Scila. But the people that are running the tour aspect and the interaction with the guests are part of talc on the river cruise.
[00:07:57] Speaker B: So I get one question here while we're talking about that, which is from CT, who says, am I right in assuming amawaterways, Abd and Tauc have similar ships? I think all the river cruise ships are fairly similar to begin with. But Karen, I don't. You experienced that when we talked to you last time about the river cruising conference you come back from. You've been on.
[00:08:16] Speaker A: Right. And I think we talked about it some last time. So we might need to pull up that episode at some point. But, you know, all the river ships are the same length. The ships that Amaw waterways uses, that adventures by Disney uses on Ama and that talc uses are gonna be the same width for the most part. Talc has fewer staterooms than amawaterways. And they have some different features on their river ships that I think, you know, there's pros and cons. For example, Disney on amawaterways for the Danube and the Rhine has the ability to have connecting cabins on Talc. Their ships right now do not have any connecting cabins. However, they have a whole deck of category seven, which is their highest level sort of suite deck. And those rooms are large and have truly space for up to four people with, you know, king size bed and a nice size sleeper sofa. So, you know, there's differences in that. There's some differences in the restaurants and the spaces on board the river ships.
And, you know, again, I. Pros and cons for each. Talc ships have, like a little hot tub.
Amawaterways has more of a plunge pool. So, you know, there's some different pros and cons.
[00:09:43] Speaker C: Yeah. How does the price compare in, in these two spaces? So I'm talking adventures by Disney compared to talc. And is there a difference? Like, overall, I'm talking talc bridges and adventures by Disney family itineraries. So we can compare app sort of apples to apples, but. Yeah.
[00:10:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:05] Speaker C: And are there bigger differences in land based tours or favorite cruisers? The differences, pretty similar.
[00:10:12] Speaker A: So I have done some kind of deep dives into some of the itineraries and tried to look like really, you know, the hotels, the experiences, the food and the inclusions and then the price point.
And I'm going to say it really kind of varies from itinerary to itinerary. Talc is definitely known as a luxury brand, but in most cases, it is on par, price wise, or maybe even less than adventures by Disney. For example, the Japan itinerary was about a good thousand dollars or so less per person. And Talc does not have dynamic pricing, meaning they don't do early booking discounts, they don't do last minute deals. They don't change the price as the tour fills. The price is the price is the price. It is a flat price no matter when you book. They're very committed to price parity amongst their guests. They don't want folks saying, well, I got this price and somebody else got this one.
[00:11:22] Speaker B: Yeah. So on the land based tours, Karen, I'm curious, how many people were on your tour? And then. Yes, how many people? What were the demographics like on the tour? And third piece of this sort of question is, you mentioned, like, bridges is a more family friendly product. When you say that, what do you mean? What kinds of things are they doing to be more family friendly?
[00:11:44] Speaker A: Sure. So, okay, so we had 24 people total on our itinerary.
Apparently, the next week was going to have more like 34, 36.
They will operate with very small numbers and then they'll fill it, depending. My understanding is that it would be very rare for talc to cancel a departure once it is set.
So they're prepared to go with small numbers.
In terms of demographic, on our week, we had, the youngest kids were like twelve and 13. Even though this is an itinerary that would take kids, I think, four and up.
There were a couple of sets of grandparents traveling with their grand, like one grandchild. So we had a couple of like a grandparent traveling with their 1718 year old, like high school graduates or twelve or 13 year old child. We had a couple of families traveling with young adult kids. So they were very similar in age to my children. So it made me a little sad that they weren't with us, but they had a 21 and 25 year old with them traveling with their parents. So it is, you know, it's a little bit of a mix. I would say that in general, Talc has a, Talc has a reputation, I think, of kind of being a great trip for grandparents to take their grandkids on. I think that's, you know, when they were, started out with bridges, I think that was a lot of who they maybe, maybe that was their ideal guest.
It is definitely expanding. There's a definite, you know, there's still grandparents and their grandkids, but there is a range of demographic.
So I would say probably, you know, again, you might see more grandparents on talc than you went on adventures by Disney just because of kind of the longstanding traditions that have been in place.
[00:13:57] Speaker C: I wonder the case that, you know, folks who go on talc themselves, right, like older, maybe the older generation who goes on talc themselves then realize this, oh, there's this product, talc Bridges. I can bring my grandkid, my teenage grandkid on with me. Of course, I'm going to use the same tour company. Right. So it's tapping into a market that they already are tapped into as to who's paying for the truck.
[00:14:24] Speaker A: Absolutely. And I mean, you hear over and over again about people that went on talc when they were younger and now are coming back with their kids or their grandkids because it's been around for 100 years. We have these generations of families that have traveled with Talc. And the loyalty to talc is absolutely tremendous. I mean, there's people that were on multiple, multiple talc tours. And, you know, when you get out there on social media and you interact with people, they are raving, raving fans and rightfully so. It is an amazing vacation. And, you know, I think it's, you know, it's, it's a great, great experience in terms of what they have for families. Do you want me to go?
[00:15:14] Speaker B: Yeah, go for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:15:16] Speaker A: So it is very similarly designed. Talc Bridge is a similarly designed to what people might have experienced or heard about adventures by Disney. So the activities tend to have be more active, more fun, more interactive and more creative. So, for example, our very, very first activity in Dublin was a scavenger hunt through the city. So we were in teams.
It was really fun. We had clues. They had kind of actors stationed at different landmarks, and we had to go and find that person and interact with them. And they would tell us a little something about that landmark and give us the clue. And then we would. We filled out the clue and then at our last stop, we ended up at, like, a very famous teahouse in the heart of Dublin. And my team was the winning team. And so we had, woo hoo.
[00:16:21] Speaker C: I would expect nothing less, Karen.
[00:16:25] Speaker A: We had a prize, and then they treated us to a tea or coffee and a pastry, um, you know, forever. All the teams got that, so, you know, things like that. Um, just. It's very similar in terms of just the different types of activities. And we can, you know, give so many examples.
[00:16:44] Speaker C: Yeah. Now, one of the questions we have, I know Brian wants to pull this one up from Nathan. He's saying, how does the small. I think he's making an incorrect assumption, but you know better than me, Karen, how does the small to mid 30 size of the group compared to Abd? I thought ABd peaked in the twenties, but we've never done one ourselves. I thought ABd tends to be like a full busload, which would be close to 40 people.
[00:17:07] Speaker A: Yes. ABD can have up to 40. It really depends on the itinerary, the destination, and, you know, so same with talc in terms of the numbers.
But in general, I think that talc has, on average, a smaller group size. Their river cruises definitely run with fewer people on board just because their capacity is less.
But on the other hand, one of the key differences is the guides. So adventures by Disney has, let's stick with land vacations, has two adventure guides that travel with the group, while Talc has one who's called a tour director. And, you know, that was something that I was really, you know, curious about. A little nervous about how is it going to run with just one. And, you know, we've had many clients that have come back and everybody has been really happy. Nobody's like, oh, I miss, you know, we even have clients that have done both products, and nobody has said, oh, it was. It felt like something was missing.
These tall directors are, you know, incredibly, incredibly hard working. I would say that they manage the logistics, the activities, the schedule, the details, the questions just seamlessly, like rock stars.
[00:18:38] Speaker C: Now, are they a local person? Like. So you were in Dublin, for example, was your tAlc manager, guide, whatever they called it.
[00:18:48] Speaker A: Sorry, tour director.
[00:18:49] Speaker C: Tour director. Was that an irish person?
[00:18:52] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:18:53] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah.
[00:18:54] Speaker A: Yes. An irish person that you would have enjoyed getting to know Sam because in his off time, he's a stage actor.
[00:19:01] Speaker C: Oh, of course. I love it.
[00:19:03] Speaker A: And he serenaded us. He has a great voice and he serenaded us with some irish tunes when we were on the bus. At times he would, you know, and even when we first, at our welcome reception, he welcomed us with an irish melody. We did happen to have a second talc guide on our tour, but she was really shadowing because she's going to be running that tour next season. So occasionally she pitched in and she also happened to be a musician. So we were really, you know, treated to their talents because we had kind of a private barbecue dinner one night, and we had a trio of irish musicians that were singing traditional songs and playing music. And at one point, they called Sam, our tour guide and Bre, the Shadow guide, up, and they performed for us. So super talented. So she actually has a record. Even so, you know, having one guide is different in terms of the relationships, I don't. I feel like on the adventure guides, they have more time to kind of form the relationships with their guests.
So, you know, that is just a little bit of a different vibe.
But in terms of our experiences, everything was very well run.
[00:20:37] Speaker B: Now, let me ask this. Do they. I don't want to say get away with one guy, but do they only have one guy? Because there's so, like, on ABD, right. I guess my. Well, I guess on the river cruise, there were sort of multiple options to do during the day. I guess on a typical ABD, you're basically going. Everyone's going to one thing. There's not a ton of options. Or my thing about this wrong. Is it like when you're on. When you're on the tour, you have one thing you're doing in the morning, maybe one thing you're doing in the afternoon, or one thing you're doing all day. The whole group's going to do the same thing. You're not.
[00:21:04] Speaker A: It's very rare, even on an ABD, um, for there to be split activities, although sometimes there is. I mean, there might be, let's say, in Costa Rica on adventures by Disney, there might be the main group doing zip lining and then some others doing a nature walk instead.
So on talc, that still could happen, but you wouldn't have a guide with you. So the guide may or may not be with you as you're going through whatever tour local, you know, with the local guide that you also still have. Right. So the Tao tour director is not your local guide. Even though he's local, you know, on the bus, he's definitely sharing information and telling stories and interacting in that way. But when you're touring, they have the local guides that come in and, you know.
[00:21:57] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. That's what I was wondering is because on the river cruise. Right. You'd have, like, three different tours going, maybe. And so you needed a, you know, a guide on each busload of people, but. Yeah.
[00:22:06] Speaker A: Correct. And talc, on river cruises, they have. They have multiple people as well. That would be in that situation. Yeah.
[00:22:12] Speaker B: All right, before we. I want to dive into your trip so people can get a sense of some of the experience we. Experiences you had. But before we do, I got CT loaded us up with questions tonight. Tinfoil mouse ears out there for buddy. I think he's. I think he's actually been talking to you, Karen, about whether he should do a talk tour or not. But he had one pre trip question that I think will be on everyone's mind, which is, prior to an ABD, get a cool swag bag from adventures by Disney. The coveted, you know, backpack or whatever it is.
[00:22:40] Speaker C: Just water bottles. Yeah.
[00:22:42] Speaker A: Water bottle.
[00:22:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
Yes.
[00:22:45] Speaker A: Here's the water bottle. You know, I was talking to Harvard about this because we were kind of, like, going through point by point. So pre departure gift. Right? So adventures by Disneyland sends out this box, and it's exciting to get the box. It has a couple water. Typically it has a couple water bottles and a backpack and some luggage straps.
Occasionally, there might be some other items thrown in. Talc takes a different approach.
It is not consistent. So you. We did not get anything before our Dublin departure. Some guests might randomly receive a gift before the departure. Some guests might randomly receive a gift after departure. Home.
Talc is taking more of a surprise and delight approach. But on the river cruise, we all got water bottles in our staterooms. Talc will still take very good care of you. So while we didn't get a pre departure box, and I will tell you that the vast majority of people don't bring these water bottles on their adventures because they don't want to pack them. And the vast majority of people may, you know, probably don't bring that backpack either. The luggage straps are cool.
How has a different approach? They do what are called lanyaps. And I was wondering, Brian, do you know that term?
[00:24:16] Speaker B: A lanyap? No.
[00:24:19] Speaker A: Land yap.
[00:24:20] Speaker B: Alania.
[00:24:21] Speaker C: I actually.
[00:24:22] Speaker A: Because it's apparently like a New Orleans word.
It is spelled L A G n I a p p e. Yeah.
[00:24:32] Speaker C: We've. I have heard this. Yeah. It's. It's basically, if you're buying something at a store in New Orleans and they give you a little freebie along with your purchase, that's called a lanyap.
[00:24:46] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a lanyap. And so talc has adopted this lanyape, and it's a little. A little something extra. So, for example, we were in a town. I'm gonna forget the name of the town. It's a town that begins in k.
It's gonna come to me.
It was just. It was a stop for a couple of hours. We had a coffee stop. We could explore shop.
We went to see a stone circle, walked around a little bit, and as we're getting off the coach, the tour director said, here is a voucher that most of the stores in town should accept so you can get some coffee. And he handed every family a little brown envelope, and I wasn't paying that much attention. I kind of took it at face value. And we walked to the entrance of the stone circle, and there was a coffee stand. So I said to Harv, oh, let's see if the voucher works here. And we opened it up, and there were €50 in the envelope.
[00:26:00] Speaker B: I mean, they weren't wrong. It is a form of voucher that anybody will take.
[00:26:06] Speaker A: I might be wrong. Maybe it was. Yeah, I think it was €50. So. And then I looked closely. It was written on the thing. It was meant for €5 per person for coffee and €20 for later in the day for lunch. And so it wasn't a voucher. It was straight up cash. And you know what? They did this for us on our river cruise experience, too. It was completely unexpected.
I really was surprised until we just got, you know, got up to the coffee stand, really expecting that it was going to be some kind of, you know, coupon, buy one, get one.
So that would be an example of a lanyap.
[00:26:40] Speaker B: Yeah. That leads me to another question here, actually, which is just, you know, if you think about abd, like, most meals included, right? Is it this? Is it similar on talc, like, most meals are included, but not every meal is going to be correct.
[00:26:53] Speaker A: It depends on the itinerary, again, because in some destinations, like, when you're in Africa, like, every meal is going to be included. Right? Because you're in Africa, most meals are included. Breakfast is included always.
And that's true, really, for adventures by Disney for the most part, as well.
And then, you know, it depends on the itinerary. But one of the differences in general that I have learned from my clients and from my experience is that the food is going to be a little bit more elevated on talc, really.
Adventures by Disney tends to do, again, we're going to, again, we're going to stick with the land. Adventures by Disneyland tends to do more buffets and more limited choices at restaurants, you know, like a kind of a set, set meal and a lot of group dinners where you're like, really? Maybe even at like one long or two long tables. It depends. Sometimes you're broken up into smaller tables. But that's one of, one of the things that I hear from adventures by Disney guest and that I've experienced is that there's, there's more buffets and even.
[00:28:13] Speaker C: On river cruising that's the case. I think when you're off the ship, obviously, when you're at the ship, you're having a plated dinner, plated breakfast, whatever. But when you're off the ship, the meals that we had that were off, that were included, meals did tend to be, I think we had maybe three or four of them. They were really, yeah. Buffet style buffets.
[00:28:32] Speaker A: Talc rarely does a buffet. In fact, during our week, the only meal that you would kind of say was a buffet was that barbecue dinner that we had at an amazing resort. But it was really a chef out there grilling, and then all the sides set up buffet style. And then they still served us a plated dessert. So, you know, everything else was, you know, some, there was a couple times we had to pre order. I think maybe, maybe once or twice we did pre order from a menu, but we had really, really lovely meals included. And then, of course, just the, oh, here, let's go buy lunch on anywhere you want in town.
[00:29:22] Speaker C: Right.
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[00:30:29] Speaker B: Let'S talk about. So I want to talk about your specific trip, and we probably can't go through it day by day just because of where we are in terms of time. But I'd love to hear some of the highlights because I think when you think adventures by Disney, one of the things you think is special access, like really unique tour opportunities that maybe not everyone would think to do. Like, I think about the salt mine tour we did in Salzburg. Like, I don't know that many people are going to venture outside of Salzburg to go do that. I'm sure they do, but you know what I mean? Like, that's something that I would not have thought to do but for adventures by Disney. What were some of those more unique opportunities? Like, you know, you're in Dublin, everybody knows to go to the Guinness storehouse, pull their own pint, you know, like, that's something that I think you just. It's a rite of passage in Dublin to go do that. But, like, what are the things that they did they took you to that you just wouldn't have thought to have done that really stood out for you.
[00:31:18] Speaker A: So it's really interesting. For example, talc spends very little time on this tour in Dublin. So I told you about the scavenger hunt. And then our welcome reception was at the epic Irish Emigration Museum, which was actually really, really moving. And we had, you know, we kind of went in after hours and we went through, on our own, through the different rooms that talk about the different periods of time that folks from Ireland spread around the world and the different contributions that irish people from Ireland have made around the world. I mean, it was really, really fascinating. And then in every room you had a little passport that you could stamp. That was fun. And then we had, the last room was a private reception just for our group, so where we had canapes and wine and things like that before. Then we returned to the hotel for our private welcome dinner.
Some other things we did that you might not think of doing on your own is we went to the national stud on the way between Dublin and Cove. So this was a place. This is a place where I.
Racehorses are, you know, bred and raised.
[00:32:47] Speaker C: Oh, interesting.
[00:32:48] Speaker A: They have, like, a racehorse experience, kind of like a virtual race, and you learned all about it, and you got to go out and see, like, some of the young cults and learn all about that. And they have some beautiful japanese gardens.
Another stop.
Another stop we did. That was just for our group, was a sheep herding demonstration. So we were.
[00:33:11] Speaker B: I think we have a photo of that. Yeah, let me see if I can find that.
[00:33:16] Speaker A: So we were, you know, just in the. In the mountains, and we pulled into this. There you go, beautiful sheep farm. And they had these, you know, dogs, and they just, you know, set the dog out and, like, you know, the sheep were like, you know, what seemed like a mile away, and they brought all the sheep in, and we just got to watch the whole thing, like, how the dog, you know, how they hurt with the whistle and going left and right and herding the sheep. It was so fascinating and cool to watch. And then we got to watch them shearing a sheep, a few of them. So that was a fun stop along the way.
[00:33:56] Speaker C: Did you buy any cool sweaters? I mean, that's what we got to know.
[00:34:00] Speaker A: So, you know, it was interesting. There was one sweater that I should have bought, but it turns out that a lot of the irish wool is really, like, not used in that way anymore because the merino wool, like, from Australia, I guess, has taken over. It's so nice. Yeah, I did buy some really good lanolin hand cream.
[00:34:21] Speaker C: Ah, nice.
[00:34:22] Speaker A: So. So that was fun.
What else we did?
Now, this is. This was not necessarily for me, but it was still, you know, adventures by Disney tends to have these things, too. We did a pottery making lesson experience in Kinsale.
So we had clay we had painted. We each got to turn on the pottery wheel.
But the cool thing is, just today, we got our pottery, and it was shipped to us.
[00:34:54] Speaker C: So fun.
Because they have to fire it in the kiln.
[00:34:58] Speaker A: They have to fire it. So I don't know if you can see.
[00:35:01] Speaker C: Yeah, that's travel.
[00:35:06] Speaker A: And I got a little bowl that I don't have to show you, but the little bowl I did on the wheel. And I had a feeling that this would happen because I didn't paint it, but it came back painted beautifully and glazed. But then, in addition, they sent us a lanyap, a set of, like, these little coasters.
[00:35:24] Speaker B: Oh, very cool.
[00:35:26] Speaker A: You can see that they're stamped with a talc emblem. So that was cool that they, you know, we didn't have to worry about packing them or shipping them. That was sent to us.
[00:35:35] Speaker C: That's very cool.
[00:35:36] Speaker B: That's very cool.
[00:35:36] Speaker C: Yeah, love.
[00:35:37] Speaker B: That's very cool.
Oh, go ahead, Sam.
[00:35:41] Speaker C: Oh, I was going to. I was going to bring up one of the questions because I think this is a super helpful question from Nathan, given a similar itinerary. He says, say, a land tour of Italy. Who would you recommend for talc versus who would you recommend for adventures by Disney?
[00:35:59] Speaker A: Such a great question. And I've been thinking about this over and over again because it's like, I don't think that one is necessarily better than the other, but it might be better for you. So if you are a Diehard Disney fan, then, you know, go with the adventures by Disney because, you know, only adventures by Disney can give you the pins every day. Only Adventures by Disney is going to do Disney sing alongs on the coach or play a Disney movie on the coach.
If you are traveling with young kids, then I would probably lean a little bit towards Disney.
But it's really, at that point, so much of it is looking specifically at the activities on the itinerary. So would you rather have a cooking demonstration or a pottery of clinic?
It really becomes that specific.
And then, of course, looking at the accommodations and whatnot, having two guides does have advantages that adventures by Disney has. And one of the big advantages is junior adventure night. So on an adventures by Disney, on most itineraries, the adults get a night off and the kids get together with the guides, usually for games and Disney movies and like a kid friendly meal and that they can just hang out and have fun. And believe me, I've been on many adventures where every kid from like, age 18 down to four was a junior adventurer that night. And they had last, you know, because Talc does not have that. So I'd say if you really love, like, bonding with other families, abd might do a better job at that. But again, some of it is just the mix of the family and just.
[00:38:01] Speaker C: The luck of who you get on your, on your tour group. Yeah.
[00:38:05] Speaker A: So, you know, it's just, it's such a hard thing. And I'm really, I'm, you know, I.
[00:38:10] Speaker C: Give you ultra foodie. It seems like talc has a little edge. Right on.
[00:38:15] Speaker A: Talc has the edge for food. Talc on most itineraries or on many itineraries also has the edge for hotels.
If you look at, let's say I was looking at Japan and I went through hotel by hotel talc. You know, the average star level would be, like, more towards the five star, where Disney is more at four in Ireland, like, the first hotel is the same. They used the same hotel.
So there's some overlap.
I just had clients that just did their, like, grand Canyon adventure with Talc, and the last hotel was the four seasons Las Vegas. So pretty nice. You know, there's definitely some more elevated options on many of the talc itineraries. So it's just a matter of kind of really diving into the details and deciding what's a better fit.
[00:39:13] Speaker C: Yeah, well, and as you mentioned, if there's something itinerary wise you really want to do that's on that, you know, abd tends to do, but talk doesn't, or vice versa, that can make a difference. You know, I will tell you, we just recorded an episode. It won't be out for another couple of months, but with somebody who did the Japan Abd who had a fabulous time. And they mentioned. When you mentioned the pottery, it got me thinking about that episode, because they did a class where you repaired broken pottery. Right. So they didn't make pottery, but it was like. And they said it was like they got lots of judgment from the teachers because, like, none of the american tourists were good at this. It was kind of like, they were kind of a mess. But you know what?
[00:39:56] Speaker B: Like, they're just taking their cues from your rapid. And, Sam, we.
[00:40:02] Speaker A: We have. We have some friends who basically said, like. Like, you know, we've told them about our central Europe adventure, and they were just like, you will never, ever, ever catch me making a pretzel or, you know, sewing a marionette. Like, just, you know, like, do not put me on that itinerary. I never will do it. And so, you know, and these are big Disney fans, so some of it is just, again, looking at the itinerary now. Know that, like, sometimes you can skip things.
You know, like, in Costa Rica, when we did our adventures by Disney, there was a pottery painting thing, but it was at the hotel, so we just. It was kind of optional. We skipped it. This pottery experience in Kinsale, there really wasn't a way to not do it because of just.
[00:40:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:53] Speaker A: You know, you couldn't have done the afternoon activity without doing the morning activity just because of the transportation.
[00:40:59] Speaker C: I would love to. I mean, I have made pottery before, but I would love to do that. I think that sounds like so much fun. I mean, on our end.
[00:41:08] Speaker A: There was definitely a few dads, mostly, you know, that kind of did their thing and then sat outside. It was a beautiful, beautiful day. It was a really great dog. And they just sat outside.
[00:41:22] Speaker C: There's always a great dog, right? Yeah. We did an apricot jam. Apricot, apricot jam.
It was more of a demonstration on our ABD. It was. But, you know, there you have, like, things, you choose activities. And so it was. It was one of like four activities we did. Like. We went to several different, like, demonstrations. One was like a wine tasting, even. And Nathan got picked as the volunteer. So Nathan actually got to make the apricot jam, whereas the rest of us, you know, just got to watch it. So I thought that was really fun because they, you know, they try to involve as much as they can. Obviously, it's harder with larger groups, and the. The river cruises tend to be larger groups, of course, so it's more. Probably leans towards demonstrations and a little less towards hands on. But I thought it was fun. I like. Yeah, I like Tracy's comment, Brian, maybe.
[00:42:13] Speaker B: They'D make you make a beer bug. We were in near Germany where they do have those kinds of beer mugs. So I, you know, in Ireland there's.
[00:42:22] Speaker A: Plenty of chances just to grab a beer mug.
[00:42:26] Speaker B: Karen, I wanted to ask about this photo.
Did you guys do, like, falconeering? Falcon. I forget what they call this.
[00:42:34] Speaker A: Falconry. Yeah. So another. Another great experience. This was at our hotel in Killarney, which is probably my favorite part of the.
Part of the week, was staying in Killarney. It's the town out of all of them that I would want to go back to and spend more time. So in the back lawn of the hotel when on the day that we arrived, they brought us all out and we had refreshments and we had a falconry person.
I don't know. Falconer.
[00:43:13] Speaker C: Falconee. Let's call them a falcon expert. I don't like Falconer.
[00:43:16] Speaker A: And, I mean, so he told us all about the birds. Everybody got a chance. He had several birds that came out, actually had a couple of. Of beautiful, beautiful owls that we also got to, you know, interact with a bit and learn about. And so we all just kind of gathered around and hung out with the falcons for a while.
[00:43:36] Speaker B: It is falconeer Sam, because there's a poem. There's a famous poem that talks about the falcon. Her. The call of falconer. So. Yes, yes. Or the falconer. The falconer. Not the falconer.
[00:43:45] Speaker A: So again, another, you know, this is another ABD does a falconry experience on the Ireland itinerary. And we did it on our central Europe. Itinerary as well, I believe so another, you know, another kind of common thread that is very appealing to families. You could also play croquet on the.
[00:44:02] Speaker C: Lawn and I think I'd be like, don't touch me. Falcon. No, I mean, birds, you know, birds are scary. Birds aren't real. Anyway, so I didn't put your love on Sam.
[00:44:15] Speaker A: I didn't do it.
[00:44:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:17] Speaker C: I don't want the falcon landing on me. Yeah.
[00:44:19] Speaker B: Does talc, Karen, offer sort of, like, if I think about ABD, one of the other things that people love to do is with a Disney cruise is do an ABC, you know, short escape on either end? I don't know that talc would offer anything similar. And also, they don't back into a major ocean liner. Right. Cruise.
[00:44:36] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:44:37] Speaker B: You know, cruise itineraries. So they wouldn't have incentive to. But they. I'm assuming they don't have anything like that.
[00:44:42] Speaker A: That's correct. They don't have any short, short escape experiences that as part of bridges, really. I don't even think I'd have to confirm, but I don't recall even any of the North America itineraries for adults being like long weekend type things. They have itineraries that go through Nashville and the Bourbon trail, for example.
Some people would say that's a weekend trip, but they make it a week trip or a six night trip or something along those lines.
[00:45:18] Speaker B: Interesting. Well, that's certainly got more going on in the US than Disney Abd does. I mean, Disney has the Montana trip and the southern California trip and I think a couple of others, but I've never heard of them going to like the. Well, they wouldn't. Disney wouldn't do the Bourbon trail.
[00:45:35] Speaker A: Well, you know, Disney had an ABD to Nashville years ago that badly ended. But again, that's why I said Bridges has a shorter itinerary list for their family friendly. But talc as a whole company has a wide range of so many itineraries, so many destinations, and you can bring kids on most of them. There might be some minimum ages. They're just not focused on kids.
[00:46:07] Speaker C: So they're not adults only. So like, they're tout. They're not branded. Their talc brand is not branded as adults only. It's not like Virgin voyage is saying.
[00:46:17] Speaker A: Every you can bring, you know, you might see some multi generational family groups on some of these other itineraries. They're just not necessarily designed for it. So, you know, we just have a family recently booking Scotland, you know, for their, you know, their family group. And I know they're going to have a great time. So it really, again, just depends on the itinerary. The adult ones tend to be a little bit, but I think, you know, people might tend to get dressed up a little bit more for some of the dinners. Some of the dinners might be fancier. There's a lot of talc, special occasion kind of things on itineraries, they call them sparkling events. Sometimes we had. I mean, we had several private dinners that were just absolutely beautiful. Beautiful. And the kids loved it, you know, because it was, you know, I'm sure they felt like princes. Princes and princesses.
[00:47:13] Speaker C: Now, do they have a dress code for anything on either a talc land based tour or even a Talc river cruise? Like, are there things that you. Because on ABD, there wasn't anything that we went to, except I think there. If you went to the concert in, like, Vienna, right. They did a concert. If you went to the concert in Vienna, you had to dress up for the concert hall. Right.
[00:47:36] Speaker B: I feel like. I think there was also a presumption when we were on the ship that if you're going to. To dining, you were at least in, like, pants. Like, I mean, it could have been time of year. It was very cold out, so I didn't bother me. But I feel like they were not, like, big, bring shorts into the dining room kind of people.
[00:47:53] Speaker C: I bet you.
[00:47:55] Speaker A: We definitely saw shorts on our ABD river cruise in the summer at dinner, maybe not like tank tops. People did tend to change for dinner, but not necessarily get dressed up. And I experienced the same thing on talc. I mean, nobody got super, super dressed up our, you know, farewell dinner. People change, you know, I don't think I saw any, anybody wearing a sport coat, for example. Although on some of the talc Bridges tours. Not. Not the bridges. Sorry. On some of the talc tours that are more geared towards adults, some of the locations kind of lend themselves to wearing a jacket. And there might be certain itineraries where they, you know, tell you kind of a certain dress code. But I think that they're changing even in their training that they're doing with travel advisors, talking a little bit more about how you can dress comfortably, because I think talc, in some respects, has a reputation of being a bit more formal, and I think that they're trying to shed that, let people know that they're going to be comfortable no matter what. You know, you don't have to show up in a suit and tie or something.
[00:49:13] Speaker C: Yeah. And CT gave a comment that is, I think, very helpful. There are some tour locations, like certain churches that might have dress codes where, you know, women have to have their. Their shoulders covered, their knees covered, things like that. But, I mean, that's in Italy, in the catholic churches, you know, the cathedrals, that's very common.
Generally, what I think in the summer, what people do is they just bring a shawl and either wrap it around their waist to wrap it across their arms.
[00:49:39] Speaker A: Right.
[00:49:39] Speaker C: So that's the cheater way to do it. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. That's what I would do if it's hot in August and, you know, in Italy. But that's. But that has. I was more asking the dress code of at dinner or at regular events. Of course. Like, as I mentioned, we had did a river cruise. There was no dress code at all, except if you went to the concert. We didn't. We opted not to do the concert. We opted for a different, more kid friendly events because we didn't want to sit through.
[00:50:09] Speaker B: It was not. It was not kid friendly.
[00:50:10] Speaker C: Well, to be fair, it was. Yeah, it was like a.
[00:50:12] Speaker B: Drinking wine at a wine hall.
[00:50:14] Speaker C: It was like a beer hall, but it was a wine hall, and it was so much fun. Yeah, we. It was like that.
[00:50:19] Speaker A: That just reminded me of something that we did that I think you all would appreciate, especially.
We stayed at a resort for three nights called Foda Island Resort, and that was our, you know, kind of home base. When we went to cove, where we saw. We went to see the Titanic experience there.
[00:50:43] Speaker B: Is this the chateau photo that you sent over, Karen? Is this like the chateau?
[00:50:47] Speaker A: No, that was our last resort, our last hotel.
But at Fota, there was a day that they called a day of picking and choosing, basically. So it was like you can spend the day doing virtually whatever you wanted. But they had some things that were prearranged and included in the morning. The option was an escape room experience. Oh, we would love that. You know, it was so cool because it was called cabin fever, and it's kind of like an adventure camp area. And they do have a lot of adventure type activities there as well. And we split up into small groups, and we each had a cabin, and we had to kind of. Of solve the puzzles in the cabin and then bring all of our things that we discovered together into a metaphor.
[00:51:43] Speaker C: Oh, yes.
[00:51:44] Speaker A: For a metapuzzle that we have to all cooperate on. And that was really, really fun.
And then following that, Harv and I went for a hike after that, but some people stayed and they did an activity called like, find the kid. And it's these guys that are, like, army militia, ranger trains, and they got these kids hidden in the woods, like, in these wood costumes, like, so they completely blended in, and the kid and the adults have to go find them. And I saw a video of it. Apparently, it was, like, super fun, and, like, nobody could find the kids. They were that well hidden.
[00:52:23] Speaker C: Oh, my God. That's awesome. It's so funny that you bring this up because, like, people should hopefully know from watching this show and watching us talk to Karen. Like, Karen knows us. Like, this is totally right up our alley. Like, we would be all over both this find the kid activity and the escape room activity.
[00:52:43] Speaker B: But I have to put this comment up from CT. Wine hall, equal kid friendly. Yeah, I agree. Ct. I will say the bus ride back was one of the best bus rides I've ever been on. Everyone was just singing Christmas songs the whole way back.
[00:52:57] Speaker A: We went to that same wine hall the summer, and it was just the most magical night. I mean, it was amazing. It was amazing.
[00:53:05] Speaker C: I mean, would you choose that or to go to, like, a classical music concert?
[00:53:09] Speaker B: Right.
[00:53:10] Speaker C: It's just. You tell me.
[00:53:11] Speaker A: Right, right.
[00:53:12] Speaker B: Nathan. Nathan suggesting a tour of old fashions around the world. Yeah. If a tour is offered, nathan, you and I will definitely be on it.
[00:53:18] Speaker A: Well, I would say that, you know, travel really changes people. And for me, this trip is the trip that will forever be known as the. The one where Karen learned to drink whiskey.
[00:53:29] Speaker C: I love it. I love it.
[00:53:31] Speaker A: Oh, we did the Jemisin for, like, single.
No, because it's. It's Ireland, you know, so it was. I learned to drink Jimmy and ginger that, you know, at the Jemison tour.
[00:53:44] Speaker C: Love it.
[00:53:44] Speaker A: That's their. That's their drink that they kind of, you know, and that's a standard, you know, around Ireland is Jemmy, Ginger and lime. And it actually is really good.
[00:53:53] Speaker C: So that's awesome.
[00:53:55] Speaker B: That's nice.
[00:53:56] Speaker C: Awesome.
[00:53:57] Speaker B: All right, well, as sort of wind things down here, there's one comment that I starred a while back that I.
[00:54:03] Speaker C: Really feel like we have to show.
[00:54:05] Speaker B: Because CT has become such a friend of our show, and he's. He can't resist an opportunity to prognosticate. And I think Karen will appreciate this. CT is saying, hey, DCl duo fam, the only prediction we are making tonight is an ABD or a talc is coming our way. Summer of 26.
I know that's when you've been eyeing your own vacation, but I think what you're trying to do is predict that our next, like podcast adventure kind of group thing is going to be an ABD or a token, I think we've not been shy in saying that's where we're leaning. We're just waiting on the itineraries from ABD to kind of start to make a decision. So I think you can, you can pencil that one in as true or, you know, use the card on your forehead or is likely. Yeah, is likely, yeah.
[00:54:50] Speaker A: So let me, let me point out, you know, I'm really excited about adventures by Disney and whatever we come up with for our next podcast adventure. But a couple things about talc that I want to point out because I always, you know, there's just so many adventures by Disney really doesn't have a great incentive for groups. Talc has a, Talc Bridges has an incentive that if you travel with nine people, so if you travel with eight people, the 9th travels for free.
[00:55:29] Speaker C: Ooh. Whoo.
[00:55:32] Speaker A: If you travel with eight people. I think I'm getting this right. The 8th is at.
Is half price. Wow. I might be wrong about the ratios, but I'm pretty sure I'm correct. I should have made sure. But it's, it's something close to that talc, the regular talc, not the bridges, requires a few more people. I think it's eleven and twelve people to get those incentives.
But if you are a multi generational group, like, you know, grandparents, you know, aunts, uncles, you know, it doesn't take much to get friends.
[00:56:05] Speaker C: Or if you're like the duo, the morals and the Andrecos. Right. There's nine right there.
[00:56:11] Speaker A: Exactly, exactly.
Also know that in many, many cases, my path unwinding travel can offer a free pre or post night with talc, and again at great hotels. But on the other hand, also know that for adventures by Disney, my path unwinding does have an agency discount that we offer. So, I mean, you really can't go wrong, y'all. It's just, it's kind of like trying to choose between, you know, favorite children, favorite vacation destinations. I think that. But you can have an incredible time on either. And there's pros and cons, as I keep saying.
[00:56:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:56:50] Speaker A: To each.
[00:56:50] Speaker C: Oh, Ashley just asked a great question about. Oh, and first she says add the Nortons in and they're twelve. I know if we add CT and his wife, then we're 14. So, you know, there's a bunch of things. But, but Ashley asked a great question about the deposit policy. So one of the things that ABD has is a deposit policy where you can move the trip only once. Right. So you can't. You don't get the deposit back? I don't, I believe. But you can move it once without any penalty.
[00:57:19] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:57:20] Speaker C: And so is, is talc similar in that way?
[00:57:24] Speaker A: So tax deposits are generally a bit lower, but we don't have a lot of experience with asking for exceptions. But I will say that generally they do not allow date changes or itinerary changes.
[00:57:39] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:57:40] Speaker A: But we did just get an exception for one for, I think, a good reason. And it was, there was no. No issue. So I can't say in general how often that might happen. I'll research that if there's question. TALC also has really, really great vacation protection that includes cancel for any reason at a very good rate, especially when you compare to ABD's insurance.
And one other difference that I should say is, is talc on their lands includes the gratuities for the tour director.
[00:58:20] Speaker C: Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Abd doesn't on land.
[00:58:24] Speaker A: Abd doesn't. And you have the two guides to add the gratuities for now. They both include all gratuities on river cruise. So there's all these little nuances, you know, in terms of what the total vacation investment would be with each. And, you know, again, just so much a matter of looking at, you know, the details.
[00:58:45] Speaker B: So, to Ashley's question, though, I wonder. Cause part of the problem with Abd is you gotta book these things pretty early when they open up, because ABDs do tend to sell out rapidly, especially for like, an Egypt or, you know, South Africa or first time they're going someplace, like they're gone. And so if you don't book them, like two years out, you're not doing it. Uh, which makes it harder. I think it's the. The implicit thing in her question like that if two years from now, suddenly something comes up and I can't even, you know, move it. Like that's a problem. Does talent to book up like that? Or is that. I always wonder if that's just like Disney rope dropping culture, right, where it's like, I got a book it, or.
[00:59:20] Speaker C: I'm not going to have less itineraries overall.
[00:59:26] Speaker A: Correct. Bridges has fewer itineraries.
You know, of course there's going to be certain key weeks and certain destinations that are similar to Abd. Italy and Costa Rica are quite popular for Talc. You know, the kiwi, you know, over Christmas and certain summer weeks, for example, are going to go quickly. But on the other hand, our clients that just recently did that, I think they call it cowboys and painted canyons, I might be merging names, but that out west itinerary, they actually were able to book that itinerary with under three weeks notice, which is rare.
It was completely closed. Talc said, we don't know if we can get the space, you know, because they had already released the space. But talc was incredible and was able to get them on that trip this summer with such short notice.
And, you know, they got to do flight seeing, which is something that Abd doesn't do that, you know, so there's just. There's a lot of benefits to, you know, having options.
[01:00:35] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. For sure. Well, as we wrap up, Karen, any. Any last thoughts or things you wanted to hit on about talc before we. We close out the show tonight?
[01:00:45] Speaker A: Let's see.
I think we covered just about everything that I wanted to talk about.
You know, just know that both, both of these options are seamless, virtually all inclusive, door to door, picked up from the airport on both.
[01:01:03] Speaker C: Love that.
[01:01:03] Speaker A: Taken to the airport at the end at both. And you're just in good, safe hands. I know. You know, Ashley. Hi, Ashley. Allergies are important, and they. Toc still does an incredible job with allergies, and in some ways, you might feel safer because it's not the buffets. So, you know, so that's another point to make.
But, you know, it just depends where your heart lies for that trip.
[01:01:30] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. Well, thanks so much, Karen. Now, I want to remind our audience, if they want to book with you on talc, on ABD, on Disney Cruise line, on Royal, on whatever they want to book and they want to, you know, venture within the Disney bubble or outside of the Disney bubble.
[01:01:46] Speaker B: DCl duo podcast Adventure in 2020.
[01:01:49] Speaker C: Right? Maybe still do a podcast adventure. Reach out to Karen. You can. You can go to mypathunwindingtravel.com. sorry, mypathunwinding.com. dclduo. Or you can email her at dclduo at my pathunwinding.com. and that way she'll know that the duo sent you. So if you're looking to book anything, of course, reach out. And obviously, Karen mentioned there are some special discounts that she's got through adventures by Disney and those additional hotel nights that are options on tao as well. Tracy saying, just take our money, Karen. I was thinking the same thing, Tracy. I totally. I was thinking the same thing. But of course, no pressure. Book what you want to book, right? I mean, if you want to stay on Disney cruise line and not venture outside of the Disney cruise line bubble, there's ain't nothing wrong with that. Okay, so anyway, with that, I guess we'll just say thank you everyone. Thanks Karen for joining us and we will see you all next week. Brian, what are we doing?
[01:02:52] Speaker B: We got the Dillos. No, we're here next week after Labor Day with with Frank and Jen Dillo for the Dillo's dis joining us to talk about their last cruise adventure. And if you have not heard our episodes with them, it is a wildly.
[01:03:08] Speaker C: Funny and they are just hilarious, tons of fun. They're both, they're from New York, so obviously I get along with them. We'll be back again at our normal time, 530 Pacific, 830 Eastern. Please join us live and if not, watch us on YouTube after and like and subscribe and we'll see you real soon.
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