[00:00:00] Speaker A: My daughters put him in a life jacket and shoved him all the way to Pelican Plunge and got him to go down the water slide.
[00:00:07] Speaker B: No way. Oh my God. At not even three. That's like amazing.
[00:00:23] Speaker C: Welcome back everybody to this week's episode of the DCL Duo podcast, brought to you by my Path Unwinding Travel and Sam, it's review time.
[00:00:31] Speaker B: Review title today.
[00:00:33] Speaker A: Woohoo.
[00:00:34] Speaker C: This week's review comes from PS3487. It's like New York Public School 3487. Maybe they all listen together in the gymnasium. They write.
[00:00:43] Speaker B: It's a whole school of kids.
[00:00:44] Speaker C: Yeah, there you go. Cruising elevated, exclamation point. This podcast has single handedly hooked us on Disney Cruising. We've yet to book our first voyage, but we feel like we are platinum level already. Whether it's experiencing the culinary delights of Palo or the special touches that make a trip class concierge special. Listening to the DCL duo will give you the most vicarious pleasure of any Disney podcast. Well, thank you for that. We love, we love it when people can live a bit vicariously. That is absolutely why we have the tagline Disney Cruising elevated. Because like to get out there, find people who are doing those fun experiences or occasionally do them ourselves and bring them back and share them because we know not everyone out there can do them. And also there are many that we've talked about we can't even do ourselves.
[00:01:23] Speaker A: So.
[00:01:23] Speaker B: Yeah, well, and it sounds like PS is a. Is an honorary Pearl Castaway club member. You know, set your sights high. Don't go just for platinum, go for Pearl. That's what I say.
[00:01:35] Speaker A: There you go.
[00:01:36] Speaker C: That's it. Sam bestows pearl upon you with no authority or ability to do so.
[00:01:40] Speaker B: And no pixie dust either.
[00:01:43] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:01:43] Speaker C: But with that, remember, one of the easiest ways that you can help out our show is by heading over to Apple Podcasts and hitting those five stars. I'll say any podcast player that you can rate us, rate us highly. And it helps, but especially on Apple because we know about 80% of our audience listens to us on Apple Podcasts today. So hit those five stars. If you leave us a written review, we will read it on the air at the top of one of our shows. With that, Sam, I am excited to welcome back a returning guest.
Haven't had him on in a while and it's going to be really fun.
[00:02:13] Speaker B: I know he's the second dad to the right. For those who read his blog, he has been a guest a couple of times on our show, on both our, I believe, our live show and our recorded show. We're super excited to welcome Alex back to the show. Welcome back, Alex.
[00:02:30] Speaker A: Thanks for having me. I hope that when I get to five, this is my third time. I hope when I get to five, I get a jacket like the snl.
[00:02:37] Speaker B: You become part of the five Timer club. I'm sorry, we do not have yet. Yet jackets available for. We actually have quite a few guests who've been on like five times. So yeah, that we. That would be an expensive DCL duo.
[00:02:52] Speaker C: Castaway club, you know, over here. Like, we'll have to do it like podcast microphone, microphone themed in some way.
[00:02:59] Speaker B: Yeah, like a silver microphone, gold microphone, platinum microphone, pearl microphone. Right.
[00:03:05] Speaker C: Well, you know what we could do is magnets. We could do magnets for guests who've been on certain number of times. Like a special magnet. So there you go. I'm on it.
[00:03:12] Speaker A: I'm on it.
[00:03:12] Speaker B: It's like our friend tinfoil mouse ears who has the tinfoil Mouseketeer is that he gives you a tinfoil Mouseketeer magnet. If you have contributed to one of his blog posts on our substack. And so I, by the way, I want to just put it out there. I am a tinfoil Mouseketeer because I have contributed to one of his blog posts. But yeah, I feel like we, we need to have. I love that idea, Brian. We need to have something. Alex, you have a blog. Second dad to the right. Tell people about the blog. Before we jump into today's show topic and how you got it started and your Disney background, because I feel like that that sort of leads in to our show today.
[00:03:53] Speaker A: Okay, so we're, we're Atlanta natives and we started going in 2017. I've got two older daughters who were, I think four and two at the time. And we finally were like, hey, we should check out Disney. Our girls love Disney princesses. We went there and I was just being a good dad. Actually. The main reason we went was because I was running a, A, a Spartan race. And that was how I convince my wife to let me go down to, to Tampa. But then I got hooked. Like, we went there and ended up, yeah, I was like, we'll go to Disney for a day. You come with me. And she was like, how about we bring the whole family and my mom and my grandmother. So they were confused when I went and ran the race at the end of the week. But. And so we just got hooked. We started going back as much as we could. And then when Covid hit, it really became special to us because it was like that one place that was real safe and we finally got out of the house and we, they kept upgrading us to suites and stuff because nobody was there. And so, you know, we just started going back as much as we could and people started asking us questions and my wife finally was like, you should just start a blog about it and then we can write it off our taxes.
And so we, so we started, I started writing about, you know, going to Disney World and doing tizzy cruises. And so it's been, it's been a fun adventure to make that a new hobby for me.
[00:05:19] Speaker B: Yeah, well, and, and at least one of your kids writes on your blog as well, right?
[00:05:25] Speaker A: My 11 year old daughter, she's probably written six or seven blog posts. She's. And then my, my nine year old, she's only written one. She's not as interested. My 11 year old uses it for video game money. I pay her and I was paying her in durables, but now I'm paying her in video games.
[00:05:43] Speaker B: Is that like in, in Robux or is it money on Steam?
[00:05:46] Speaker A: It's like she'll earn $15 towards a random game. They bought some hello Kitty game for whatever reason. I don't know if she's stealing from us, but my middle daughter always has a whole bunch of cash on hand and so she'll supply to the rest that the, the older daughter needs to buy the game.
[00:06:05] Speaker B: Oh, nice. They chip in very, very.
[00:06:07] Speaker C: It's like she's like second dad to the right. She's like, you're the FDI insurer, FDIC insurance here. She's like, yes, I'm sister.
[00:06:13] Speaker A: She's like, well, I found, I found random cash in a drawer. It's mine now.
[00:06:18] Speaker B: I love that. That is hilarious. All right, well, tell our audience how many cruises you have been on with Disney Cruise Line.
[00:06:28] Speaker A: So this is our fifth. So we are finally gold. So I finally feel like I sort of belong on the elevated cruise podcast, but not for lack of trying. So for anybody who's ever. We have five people in our family, so it's really hard to find a decent price on a cruise, but we managed to find one in late January, so it ended up being pretty good. We were able to apply two different onboard credits to it. Only got 10% off, but still had the extra 250 to apply to that. And I don't know if you could do that anymore because the person at the front desk when I did it again this time Looked at me like I was crazy.
[00:07:04] Speaker B: Wait, so you got. Okay, so you had like a placeholder or did you have something else?
[00:07:10] Speaker A: Yeah, so because I had. We have five people, I always booked two placeholders. Always hoping that I could convince some grandparents to go with us so that we can have a room of four instead of five and they could take one of the kids. And we did. We managed to do that once on the Fantasy a couple years ago, but it ended up just being us. And my travel agent was like, well, do you want to just apply the other one to your cruise or do you want to just let it expire? And I was like, well, I guess just put it on the cruise since we've already paid for it. So I was able to put 500 on the cruise instead of 250.
[00:07:41] Speaker B: Gotcha. Right? You only get the 10% discount, obviously. But that's nice if you can apply credit that you sort of just have hanging out there to a cruise you've already booked if you're not going to use that placeholder. Yeah, that makes sense. Great. All right, well, so you book this, this dream cruise for your family of five. Tell us, tell us what itinerary you booked and you know why you chose that itinerary.
[00:08:10] Speaker A: So we're Atlanta based. I think I mentioned that. And so sailing out of Florida is really easy for us. So this one went out of Miami and we picked it because number one, I wanted to. We really liked the private islands with our little kids trying to do excursions, especially with. So we have an 11 year old daughter, a 9 year old daughter. And then we have a. He was two on the ship, a two year old boy, our little Covid. Surprise. And so he. So we're not really interested in going to see some awesome whatever because we either have to leave him on the boat or he can't go because he can't. And so we did a Nassau where we just stayed on the boat and then we did Lookout Key and Castaway key or sort of Castaway Key first and then Lookout Key, which I think. Was that your DCL duo dip? What do you call it?
[00:08:58] Speaker B: Duo dip? Yeah, it's a duo dip. We love it. I love that. That's a great itinerary. So how many nights was this was a five night cruise then.
[00:09:06] Speaker A: Five night? Yeah. So we only have one day at sea.
[00:09:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. That makes. That's pretty typical. I mean if you, if you. Obviously with three stops you. Because you got embarcation day and that counts as one night. So you can't really fit more than one sea day in. Okay, so you, how far in advance did you book this? Were you like booking like opening day or were you booking sort of more last minute or something? Something in between.
[00:09:30] Speaker A: We almost always do everything last minute. So it was a super last minute. Nothing crazy. Like I think you guys have one guy who was booked like two weeks at a time or something crazy like that. But I think we booked in September, October for a January trip just because we thought, hey, let's, let's take a look, see what the prices are. This one ended up being good for family. 5.
[00:09:50] Speaker B: Perfect. And what kind of, what kind of stateroom did you guys book? Do you have a typical stateroom that you guys like to book? Obviously you have, there's limitation on what you can book with five.
[00:10:00] Speaker A: We're pretty much locked into the deluxe veranda that's got room for the crib or deluxe ocean view. And so we always get a veranda because it's only usually only 100 or 200 more because Disney has so many verandas. We never stay concierge. But so yeah, so we had a deluxe veranda or the one that's C spot. So it's basically normal room. And then it's got about five feet more before the balcony where you can put the crib or roll a bread. So we had a crib for the, for the two year old.
[00:10:30] Speaker B: Well, let's, let's jump to onboard booking window. I love that by the way, we are hearing kids in the background, but I'm really loving it. So I just want to know, listen, Alex, this is normal. Like if you can't listen to a.
[00:10:46] Speaker C: Disney podcast with some kids in the background, then you should not be very.
[00:10:50] Speaker A: Long way from me, which is incredible that I'm in the back corner of a bedroom with the door shut. Oh, man, I thought they were eating dinner. Apparently.
[00:11:01] Speaker B: Well, it sounds like they finished.
[00:11:05] Speaker A: There's three other adults here.
[00:11:09] Speaker B: I love it. I love it. All right, well, your onboard booking window opens you all at the time of booking were silver. As you mentioned, you're now gold. But on, for folks who haven't heard us say this before, even your fifth cruise, you're still silver on the cruise. It's after your fifth cruise that you become gold. So to book stuff for your fifth cruise, you're still in that silver booking window.
Of course, you got kind of a packed itinerary with only one day at sea and obviously, you know, going to both private islands. Did you guys have anything in particular that you really, you know, wanted to book in that, you know, onboard booking window open for Silver. And. And did you have any difficulty getting anything that you wanted? If so.
[00:11:54] Speaker A: So the only thing that we were really interested in booking because, like I said, we weren't really interested in excursions because we had got the little guy was the fine dining. And so we. Because I never thought this was going to happen because the food is so good in the restaurants that I was like, why would we even want to ever go to, you know, Palo or Ribby? It is. It's weird. Like, you know, it ends up being the same menu, you know, since our first careers in 2020, it's the same menu and we're like, oh, we'll try the new stuff and then we can put the kids in the childcare. And so we. I fought real hard. I managed to get a Remy because we'd never done Remy before, and I managed to get a Prima Nate Palo on the ship. We were actually able to get another Palo reservation. The only thing we couldn't get that I tried to get because we only had one sea day, was a brunch.
[00:12:48] Speaker B: Yeah, brunches. I think we've said this on other shows, but, like, especially on a shorter cruise where you've only got one sea day, even if they're doing brunch on Nassau Day in addition to the one sea day, which I don't know if they did on your cruise, it wouldn't shock me one way or the other.
But I will say, like, brunch is always, like, the hottest ticket in town. Dinner is always easier to get because dinner is served every single night right. In Palo and in Remy or Enchantee on the newer ships. But Palo is only going to be served on a sea day or occasionally, depending upon the itinerary, could be. Also, if you don't have any sea day, it will be on a Nassau Day. If you have a sea day, there's a chance you might have it on Nassau Day as well. But in general, it's. It's much more limited. So. Okay, so that's really great. Uh, I want. I will definitely want to dive into talking about those when we get there, but let's. Let's talk talk about your trip down to Florida. I imagine you guys are driving from Atlanta. Not that far.
[00:13:52] Speaker A: Well, we sailed out of Miami, so that's another four hours.
[00:13:55] Speaker B: Or Fort Lauderdale. Right?
[00:13:57] Speaker A: So. Yeah, yeah. Or Fort Lauderdale.
[00:13:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:58] Speaker A: So we. So we flew to Fort Lauderdale and we. We do a lot of points and miles credit card stuff, so we stayed at the Hyatt centric Los Olas or Las Olas, which is part of Fort Lauderdale for a couple nights and went to the beach. So we like to get there real early because we don't want last thing. We want us to have to, you know, freak out the day of. So we always try to get to the port there. So we. So we got to. Now pain. A pain for us was trying to get transport. We managed to get a shuttle because we had to have a car seat for the little guy unless we get a shuttle. So we did manage to get a shuttle there and then we had to figure out how to take the city bus to get to the beach and then.
[00:14:42] Speaker B: Oh, from the hotel to the. To hang out at the beach.
[00:14:45] Speaker A: Yeah, that was, that was a nightmare because we couldn't really figure out where the stop was. And we saw the bus we needed on the other side of the road. And so we're like running across the street with all this borrowed beach stuff that we got from a hotel. My nine year old, the. The go getter, flagged down the bus and convinced her to let us on in the middle. Like we weren't even at a bus stop.
[00:15:03] Speaker B: So you had the bus stop, right? They'd left the bus stop and in the middle of the street. Yeah. Oh my God. Middle of the block.
[00:15:08] Speaker A: We were tourists. Were like, how do you pay for the bus?
[00:15:11] Speaker B: Yeah, you know, that's a great question, Alex. How do you pay for the bus in Fort Lauderdale?
[00:15:18] Speaker A: I think what you're supposed to do, I think you're supposed to buy tickets ahead of time and you get a better deal. But you can just swipe your. Tap your credit card and then let you on.
[00:15:27] Speaker B: I mean, that's a good tip. We haven't. I'll be honest. Brian and I have not. You know, we have sailed out of Fort Lauderdale, but thus far we haven't even gotten to stay in Fort Lauderdale. Cause we've had snafus like every single time. And so we've ended up like sort of staying elsewhere. And yeah, we have not used the public transportation there, but we have used. The great thing I think about modern technology is most places nowadays. Yeah. You can tap to pay with credit cards on most public transportation, which is kind of amazing. All right, well, let's. Let's dive then into getting to the port. You said you use a shuttle service. Was it through the hotel or was it privately booked?
[00:16:06] Speaker A: It was through the hotel. They had a. Well, it was a private company, but it was through the hotel. And they took us to the hotel and then we asked them if they could take us to the terminal and they said, yeah, we can do that. So we called them day of, and they couldn't drop us off right at our port arrival time. They had to drop us off like 45 minutes early, which was an adventure in and of itself. We had to stand in like basically a cattle fencing area in the middle of this parking deck where cars were going around us, waiting for them to call our port arrival time. It was bizarre.
[00:16:37] Speaker B: Oh, that sucks. Were you at least able to drop off your luggage? Like, did the porters. Were the porters able to take your luggage?
[00:16:43] Speaker A: Yeah, the porters were able to take our luggage. So that wasn't too bad. So we're just sitting there.
[00:16:46] Speaker B: But you couldn't go into the terminal, which it's such a nice terminal with plenty of like, waiting room and stuff in there. Right. It seems so silly. Yeah, yeah.
[00:16:55] Speaker A: So we sat in this area inside the parking deck for 20 minutes or so.
[00:17:00] Speaker C: This is the, this is the Fort Lauderdale terminal?
[00:17:02] Speaker B: Yeah, in Fort Lauderdale. Yeah.
[00:17:03] Speaker C: We're in the parking deck because they have like the, the bottom floor, which is like, you know, cavernously tall, and then the parking.
[00:17:09] Speaker A: Yes, the bottom floor where all the buses go around.
[00:17:11] Speaker B: Where the buses are?
[00:17:12] Speaker A: Yeah, right in the middle, like where you have to cross the bus lane. They had just like rows lined up for every 15 minutes and just had people just sitting there. So we were basically just like in a fence while buses went around us in a circle.
[00:17:26] Speaker B: You know, we, we. When we got there for our last cruise, I remember seeing that. But you know, we were sailing concierge that cruise, Brian. So there was a separate line for concierge, so we got to go in right away. And I remember seeing this huge line of people and trying to just even figure out where the end of the line was there was like crazy. It seems. It's. It's certainly. I mean, it's a nice terminal once you get inside, but not so nice outside in the way, you know, in that garage area.
[00:17:55] Speaker A: I have to say that I think I've had some bizarre experiences. But getting on the Disney cruise, with the exception of Port Canaveral, has been amazing. But when we went, we sailed twice out of New Orleans and then once out of Fort Lauderdale, and both of those were just nightmares. But this one. So it was like, once we got in, you know, they checked us in and they were mad at me because the girls birth certificates were cut off. And I said like, I was like, I Could. I submitted a photo that has their birth certificates and you guys approved it. You're seeing a square picture on your screen. I didn't submit a square picture. Like, oh my God, your system cut it off. And finally a manager came over and was like. And I had. I was like, here are the birth certificates.
[00:18:36] Speaker B: Like, here's right. You can rescan it if you need to. Right?
[00:18:39] Speaker A: Yeah. And finally a manager came over. You're like, it's fine. They've been approved. Like, why are you bothering? You know, And I was like, have. Is this the first time you've ever had anyone use a rectangular picture?
[00:18:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:51] Speaker A: Well.
[00:18:51] Speaker B: And most birth certificates. Yeah, A letter sheet of. Yeah. Letter paper. And so, you know, eight and a half by 11. And so. Yeah. I mean, what else? I guess I'm.
[00:19:05] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:19:05] Speaker B: Maybe there are some states that do.
[00:19:07] Speaker A: Shorter form birth certificates, but maybe everybody uses their passport. I guess that she wasn't used to seeing birth certificates.
[00:19:13] Speaker B: Little. I mean, our kid. I'll be honest, our kid does have a passport, but a lot of kids don't yet have a passport. So I form too.
[00:19:21] Speaker A: But we had just ordered them and we didn't like. So they were in the mail when I had to submit them a few weeks ahead of time. So.
[00:19:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Well. And whatever you use for the. The online check in is what you need to bring with you, Right?
[00:19:36] Speaker A: Right before we had the passports and the. Versus.
[00:19:38] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Because you can, you can switch it to a passport. But I. It's. It's. It's just easier to have whatever the, you know, whatever the form that you used online, because that's what's already been approved. All right, well, let's jump into the boarding process. Like, how did it take a long time, obviously. It sounds like there was this like snafu with some port person who didn't know what they. The heck where they were doing. But how long did it take you before you guys got like, actually, you know, onto the ship for boarding?
[00:20:08] Speaker A: So we got there, I think we had 1115, which I think is the earliest portrait time I've had. And I think we sat in the terminal for 30 minutes at least, maybe longer. It was a while. So they've got these long rows of chairs. And Asher and Amelia, my two younger ones, were just crawling, chasing each other underneath them, which was fine. Cause it was. They couldn't go very fast. So we do what they were at all times. But we could already connect to the WI fi at the boat. So we were getting everything Set up that way and taking pictures at random photo spots they had. So it was all right. It wasn't terrible.
[00:20:42] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, that's a good tip, though, about getting on the ship's wi fi, because there are things that you can still sometimes book from, you know, like that you want to sort of reserve a spot for. Like, if you want to do the art of the theme ship tour or on the newer ships, it's like the Imagineering tour, which are adult tours of the ship. You can, like, book that and reserve it, you know, from your phone in the terminal. Or if there's, like, open drink tastings and things like that that you want to book, you can potentially do that from right there and start favoriting things in the app as to, like, what, you know, what activities you maybe want to do. All right, well, let's. Let's talk about this cruise.
You guys are, you know, you're pros. You've been on all the ship, all four of the original ships. Now, was this your first time on the Dream, or had you been on the Dream?
[00:21:28] Speaker A: Yeah, it was our first time. Yeah, it was our first time twice, so. It was our first time. I was drinking.
[00:21:33] Speaker B: Nice. Okay, so, so you've been then on the Wonder once, the magic once, the fantasy twice, and now the Dream. So you're at the end of the show, we got to ask you what's next, but hoping you're going to say that the wish and the treasure are next so they can get across. You gotta, you know, you gotta hit that. That Big Hero 6 until destiny and adventure come out. And then we're all. We're all screwed. But.
All right, well, so first. Yeah, well, and then. Exactly. And then we get to 13 real, real fast. So tell us, what were your first impressions of the Dream? She's obviously, you know, the sistership of the Fantasy.
She was the first of her class, but she has different decor than, you know, different style decor than the Fantasy. Just curious as to your impressions.
[00:22:22] Speaker A: So you walk in and you get hit with the awesome smell that all the Disney lobbies have. And then they have that beautiful chandelier that the Dream had, which was cool, but other than that, you know, it. It was familiar enough because the layout's so similar to the fantasy, and so it was easy to navigate. You know, just. We knew where everything was. And of course, we get on a ship and our. My goal is not to take in the ship. My goal is to rush to the nursery to book all the extra time that we need, because you only get 10 hours originally of childcare and then ahead of time, and then you can go and ask for more after that. And so, you know, after we booked our 10 hours of child care, we were still trying to get, you know, Remy's and Palos and trying to work all that out and figure that out.
[00:23:07] Speaker B: And so, yeah, that's a great point. Typically, is that the first place you go when you get on board if you, you know, if you're getting on a ship? Yeah, because, I mean, and it seems like it's fairly easy to get additional time if you are a planner like you are, and go, you know, on that first day and book. But do they limit you really once you, you know, when you're there in person?
[00:23:33] Speaker A: They. I don't think they sold out for anything that we wanted. I'm. But I know what does sell out. And so we booked that ahead of time. So like C days book up. So we, you know, we, we booked a window on the 1C day to make sure we had some childcare there. And then any of the meals that we had already established that we wanted that, or if there was a show that we thought he couldn't sit through, we've hooked that.
[00:24:01] Speaker B: That's a really good point. And that actually makes probably looking at everything in the app while you're in the terminal even more important. Right. Because then you can see sort of those activities that you might want to do or those shows that you might want to see that you'll need that child care time for, because it's either an adult only or because it's, you know, it won't be something that he can sit through.
And I think I got a note for people listening. Like, those adult only meals, particularly Remy and Enchante, are longer meals. Like, so you're not talking like an hour, hour and a half meal, you're talking like a three hour. I mean, it could even be more than that if you're.
[00:24:41] Speaker C: I think they can accelerate things if you tell them like, look, I want to have this meal, but I have a child in the nursery. I think they can kind of make. But, but the experience is. Yeah, yeah, is. Well, they don't push you to it, but the experience of those meals is also better kind of over the longer timeframe that they suggest or that they, they build it. And so.
[00:25:00] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly, exactly. All right, well, let's, let's talk about some of the stuff you guys got up to. Let's. I want to jump to the ports right away because you got to go to Castaway and lookout, you mentioned at the top of the show you didn't get off at Nassau. Not, not. That's not a huge surprise, right? You're looking for fun beach day with younger kids with your 11 year old, your 9 year old and your 2 year old soon to be 3 year old as we're recording this. So. Yeah, tell us what, what did you. Did you, you didn't book any excursions or anything on the private islands, did you?
[00:25:33] Speaker A: Right now? We didn't book any excursions. And with Nassau, we, we, my wife and I have been. Audrey and have been to Nassau, like for real, like stated, Atlantis went to Great Cliff, all sorts of stuff like that. So. And then I've, I've done some mission trip work in the Bahamas as well. And so it didn't really take. There was nothing really. We wanted to see that we hadn't seen ourselves. And it just makes it harder with kids. And then we also got a, a crime advisory from the ship about Nassau, but we had already decided before that. Yeah, Yeah.
[00:26:05] Speaker B: I mean, that would make anyone who was planning on getting off without an excursion in particular probably rethink getting off. I mean, I know it would for me. It definitely would for me. All right, well, okay. So what did you guys get up to on Castaway? What does a day at Castaway look like with your family of five?
[00:26:22] Speaker A: So Castaway. So in the past, when he was littler, we just left him in the nursery because you can just like they'll let you keep him in childcare there because, you know, it's hard to navigate the island. But this time we're like, he's older, he knows stuff. So we, we took him to the water. We played in the water. Now this is January and so the. It was hot outside, probably in the 80s, but the water was icy. It was. So you had to like kind of jump into it to get used to it. But he, my daughters put him in a life jacket and shoved him all the way to Pelican Plunge and got him to go down the water slide.
[00:26:58] Speaker B: No way. Oh, my God. At not even three. That's like amazing.
[00:27:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:04] Speaker B: Wow. Are they good swimmers, your daughters?
[00:27:07] Speaker A: Yeah, they're good. But, you know, everybody has to. I don't know if everybody has to, but they were wearing watch, I guess just to make things easier.
[00:27:11] Speaker B: Sure. I mean, Pelican Plunge, like for people who haven't been there, Pelican Plunge is still kind of a ways out. Even if you're a good swimmer. Like, it's, it's A ways out.
[00:27:20] Speaker A: Out.
[00:27:20] Speaker B: It's not a bad idea, especially for kids to be wearing a life jacket, to swim out there.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: And so my wife did go out there too, but, like, they had taken him and, like, beat her way up, so she was having to swim to catch up. But. So he went down Pelican Plunge. He liked that. But he really liked the splash pad. The. I mean, it's not. It's not very big at all. But he was having so much fun with all the little spouts and everything like that. And then.
[00:27:46] Speaker B: And the water's not as cold as the ocean. The water. The splash paddock.
[00:27:50] Speaker A: And we're. We're not big morning people. So we probably didn't get off the boat till 9, 30 or 10. We have breakfast on the boat and just took our time getting off and eating in cabanas. And then he. So nap time's usually around one or two. And I was like, is one of us gonna take him back to the boat? And so what I decided is that I went back and got my running gear on and put him in one of the rental strollers. And the strollers are nice. They're jogging. Nice jogging strollers. And took him for the Castaway 5K, like, while he slept. And so I gave him a medal.
[00:28:25] Speaker B: No, that's perfect. That's such a good idea.
While he's asleep. He's passed out. Yeah, that's awake for the first half.
[00:28:33] Speaker A: So I got to take him up the lookout tower.
[00:28:36] Speaker B: Oh, cool.
And then he got his. At least. Did he stay, like, asleep after you finished running?
[00:28:43] Speaker A: Yeah, it was just. Yeah, because I just kind of walked around with them until it was time to get back on the boat. And my wife. I think my girls actually just went back to the boat and, like, watched Funnel Vision and my wife sat on the beach.
[00:28:59] Speaker B: Nice. I love that. That's such a good idea, though, for little ones. Like, little ones who. Who still, you know, who obviously are good in a stroller or tolerate being in a stroller. I will say, at the parks, we used to do very similar to what you're talking about. I mean, we used to. Rather than leaving, I mean, it was typically land where you can actually walk back. But even at world, like, I mean, both places were obviously, it's, you know, you gotta. It's a long walk or it's a bus ride or whatever. Like, instead of going back to our hotel for Nathan to take a nap when he was of that age, we would, like, put him in the stroller, lean the seat all the Way back, put the sunshade all the way forward. And we never brought. We never did like, the umbrella stroller. We did, like, always like a real. We'd either rent or bring like, a real stroller because you want that. That sun shade that will allow them to actually fall asleep. And we'd walk around.
We. We wouldn't obviously ride rides, but we continue walking around and just enjoying the streetmosphere and go into. We'd go into shops. Yeah. We'd go into shopping. Because that way he wouldn't clutch.
[00:30:06] Speaker C: Yeah, it was clutch. Because then he wouldn't be like, oh, I want this. So I want this. I want this. Because he was asleep. So we'd buy the T shirts we wanted.
[00:30:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:11] Speaker C: And get the heck out of Dodge.
[00:30:13] Speaker A: So, yeah, it was like, stroller. You have your store, it's your shop.
[00:30:16] Speaker B: Exactly. And then you have your storage in the stroller. Exactly. It was. Honestly, it was like, it was perfect and would give us, like, we would like Brian said we'd do our shopping, but then we'd go to Starbucks and get our, you know, iced tea or afternoon snack and just kind of like either walk around or find some place to sit. And he'd be just asleep in the stroller so he'd get his nap.
[00:30:35] Speaker A: We actually did that yesterday.
[00:30:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because you were at the. You were at Walt Disney World yesterday with.
[00:30:41] Speaker A: We went to Epcot and got. Because we wanted to go pick up our passholder magnets.
[00:30:46] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:30:46] Speaker A: And we. So we convinced him. We just started walking until he fell asleep. And then we went and ate at Tepanito's washy place. And he slept next to the table until the presentation started. So he got to wake up to see the choo choo train on the onions.
[00:31:02] Speaker B: Oh, that's so cute. I love that. I love that. All right.
[00:31:06] Speaker A: He was eating goldfish out of the little sauce cups.
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[00:32:11] Speaker B: All right, so it sounds like a. A great day at Castaway. Then let's talk about Lookout. Was this your first time to lookout?
[00:32:20] Speaker A: Yeah, this was our very first time to lookout. And so our girls were kind of unenthused about the walk because they had seen pictures. So they actually just stayed on the boat. And we put him in the nursery on the boat, and two of us, we just enjoyed lookout ourselves, which was so much nicer. That's awesome, because I want to write about it. So I didn't argue with them. I was like, well, I can go and just take pictures of whatever I want to so that I can, you know, work on articles about it and that kind of stuff. So, yeah, it was. It's a vastly different experience, but we'll.
[00:32:51] Speaker B: Get into that, right? It totally different. Very different from Castaway. Did you get to spend time on the adult only, like, on Serenity Bay? Or did you like. Like, did you. I mean, did you try to walk sort of the whole family? Yeah, we did an adult.
[00:33:05] Speaker A: We walked pretty much everything, but we started by going straight to Serenity Bay. So we, you know, we did the walk and we kept turning around to take pictures of the boat because I realized with some of my articles that I don't have enough pictures just of a boat because I'm always in the boat.
So we did that. And then it kind of feels like you're walking into a Disney park, like, the way they have it, like, where the security is. It looks like one of the ticket counters. Like, you walk in, he's like, oh, this is the Bahamas park that you're in. And then you get on this long tram. So you got a long walk and then a long tram, and then finally you're in paradise. And so we got there, and we're like, the kids would really love this. And then we were like, but it would take us an hour to get.
[00:33:46] Speaker B: Back here to go back and get them. Yeah.
[00:33:49] Speaker A: So. So we went to Serenity Bay. And what was weird was, Luis, I Went to the bar. And I mean, it was about this point, it was like probably 10:30 or 11, and they were already out of the random beer that I ordered. And I was like, oh, okay, that's random. But I will happy. I'm happy to say there was no Bud. So a lot of people have talked about the flies. There was no flies at the restaurant or at the bars. So we went there and we went down to the bay. What I always thought was interesting was they kind of realized what's wrong with Castaway Cay, which is there's no seating. And there are chairs everywhere.
[00:34:21] Speaker B: Everywhere.
[00:34:22] Speaker A: Chairs on the beach. Chairs in random areas where if you don't feel like being at the beach. And so we walked down to the adults only part, and it was a little different because you can still see the family beach, so you can see all the kids. And then there was some really enterprising families that were like. Because if you walk through Serenity Bay out the other side, there's a sign that says leaving Disney property. And there was several families with kids in that area.
And then security. We watched the security go talk to them, and they're like, look, we're outside of Disney property. Like, you can't tell us to leave, even though we're sitting in the adult.
And they left him alone and they stayed there the whole time that we were sitting there.
[00:34:59] Speaker B: Oh, that's funny. That's funny. Yeah. I mean, if once where Disney property ends, right? The Disney security doesn't get to regulate who's. Who's sitting there. It's public. It's public beach property, really.
[00:35:09] Speaker A: Which was also interesting on the other side. So we walked through and, you know, it got really crowded in the family beach. It was almost like being at, you know, Myrtle beach or Destin or somewhere where it's like, real crowded in certain areas. And if you keep walking. So here's a tip for everybody. Keep walking back towards the ship. On the beach, there's still chairs, but all the people were gone. And so there was lots of places there. But then we saw all these cliffs, and we're like, let's go look at those cliffs. And surely we're not allowed to climb on the cliffs. And there's a sign that Disney looks like a sandwich board thing, but there was nothing on the sandwich board. And we were like, oh, okay. And then a bunch of other people just walked up the cliffs. And we're like, okay, we'll walk up the cliffs. And you go up the cliffs and. And you can get to the Lighthouse. And if you go to the lighthouse, you turn around, there's a sign that says, don't go over the slide. And I was like, but that's where we came from. We don't know how to get that.
So I'm not, I'm not saying your guests should do this or the listeners should do this. But then if you get to the other side, there's like a private beach where you can just look at the ship and there's a little bit of sand there and then just really cool places to look out. But don't. They shouldn't do it because I'm sure we weren't supposed to do. But nobody seems to care.
[00:36:19] Speaker B: That's so funny.
We did not venture that far. So, I mean, we did try and sort of venture towards the right end of the family beach because that is the less crowded end of. And it's also where if the kids are going to the kids club, the kids club is in that direction. It's not all the way to the end, but it's in that direction. And the other barbecue spot. So there's two, you know, there's two places to eat. True barbecue and true, true barbecue and.
[00:36:51] Speaker C: True, true to barbecue.
[00:36:52] Speaker B: Barbecue. Thank you. Yeah. And so the one that is less crowded is the one that's in that direction always. And so people. I think, I think it's just because, like, when you get to lookout and you get to like the store, Right. When you get off the tram, you get onto the store and like everybody goes to the beach that's like right in front of them. Right. Instead of walking a little bit to the right. And then you get to a lesson. You know, it's the same beach, but it's just the less crowded spot of it. So pro tip, if you want a little bit less crowded spot, head to the right and sort of towards where away from the cultural center and sort of towards where the kids club and the other barbecue place are. Yeah.
[00:37:33] Speaker A: Eventually they'll stop being chairs. So if you want chairs, you have to be a little bit closer. But it's really the sand. That's not my first time in Eleuthera. Like I said, I did a. A mission trip there. But that pink sand is really cool looking. Of course you can't be there at sunset because you gotta get back on the boat. But if you could ever be there at sunset, it like makes the beach pink. It's really cool.
[00:37:55] Speaker B: Just in the sun. Yeah. With the sun sort of hitting as it's setting. Hitting the beach. Yeah.
[00:38:00] Speaker C: I bet it's for some reason you.
[00:38:02] Speaker A: Have a call to the boat at 6 o'clock in the winter or something. You might be able to see it, but it's usually not. But so then we walked back through the, you know, the areas and we saw this. They have a splash pad. There's. That absolutely puts the guest away K1 to shame. I mean it's got these like huge two store. It's basically a playground. Like two story water slides. Better than any of the splash pads at Disney World. There's a toddler area, but I asked and a lot of times the toddlers can't go if they're wearing diapers. Can't go into the big area. And I asked and he was like, well, as long as they're wearing a diaper they can. I don't know if that was just that one lifeguarder. So that's the rule because the sign says they weren't supposed to. But we didn't do it either way because I wasn't going back to the ship to get him and bring him back out.
[00:38:45] Speaker B: But yeah, well, there's really, there's no like physical barrier. That's like the difference, right? Like the one. Well, the one at Castaway. There's just like a. It's a very, it's clearly like for very little kids, the splash area. Because all it is is little water spouts coming out of the ground. Right. Whereas this one has some stuff that the kids can interact with and then it sort of is attached to the rest of the splash pad and the big play structure that has the water slides and stuff and so you don't have any water sl. Yeah, I mean there's no water slides out in the water like you have with Pelican Plunge. But the, the one. Oh my God, I'm forgetting the name. The name of it. Brian, do you remember the name of it? What? This splash area. Yeah.
[00:39:24] Speaker C: Oh, it's the.
Oh, what is it called?
I have to look it up.
[00:39:30] Speaker B: I can't remember. It's driving me crazy. I know. Alex is trying to remember pictures.
[00:39:34] Speaker A: Sebastian's Cove is the kids. Is like the kids area.
[00:39:37] Speaker B: The kids club. That's the kids club. Yeah, but it's the. Oh my goodness. Why am I rush out? Gush out. That's it. It rush out. Yeah.
[00:39:48] Speaker A: That sounds an awful lot like one of the roller coasters. I mean, water slides. That was a typhoon.
[00:39:55] Speaker B: Oh, at typhoon. Is it? I don't. I. It's been so long. I haven't been, you know, it's actually, I was something gusher.
[00:40:01] Speaker A: I can't remember something right.
[00:40:02] Speaker B: I was telling Brian the other day, I don't think I've actually ever been to Typhoon Lagoon in my entire life. I know that sounds kind of crazy as, like, a big Disney fan. Like, I've been to Blizzard beach when it, like, first opened, but I don't think I've ever been to Typhoon Lagoon.
[00:40:17] Speaker C: Alex, I want to ask you this question. You went to Castaway Key. You went to Lookout Key. You're the second dad to the right. Someone comes to you and says, I got a choice to make here. I can either sail on. Let's just put the Destiny in place, and she's going to come out. So I can either sail on the Disney Destiny and go to Lookout Key, or I can hop on the, you know, the Disney fantasy and go to Castaway Key, and I got kids in tow. Which island are you recommending?
[00:40:46] Speaker A: So if you can get your kids to the island and you're not interested in coming back, I would say look out. Like, I think if Lookout was as close as Castaway, it wouldn't even be close. The Lookout is just more fun, like, with the, you know, you've got the water, you've got the. The splash pad. Like, they don't like the sand. Like, some kids don't like getting sandy. Some kids don't like salt water, you know, Then you've got the splash pad. There's tons to do. And it's less stressful to me not having to fight for chairs, you know, because we were at Castaway, like, and I found one chair that didn't have anything on it because we got there late because we're lazy.
And I put my stuff down.
Right. Which. There's a lot of people there. Yeah.
So I put my stuff down, and this girl comes out of nowhere, and she's like, like. And I found two other chairs that were stacked, and so I had, like, two, like, sitting chairs at one. This girl comes out of nowhere. She's like, that's our chair. And I was like. And I had it. It was off to the side. And I dragged it back and I said, where was it? And she's like, what do you mean? I was like, where was the chair? Where do you think I got it from? Because I had moved it. And she was like, never mind, and walked on. And I was like.
I was like, if you can't. If you can't even say, oh, well, I was tanning in that chair over there, and I had taken two Other chairs from some other area and brought them over there. Like, I didn't even know which chair she was complaining about. It was just like, I couldn't even sit down before. I was getting stressed out about trying to find somewhere for the family that's just not at Lookout. It's like, there's just a million umbrellas, a million chairs. Because even. Just having somewhere to put down your stuff, even if you use those chairs that look out that can't see the ocean, like, there's a bunch that are kind of behind the Bermuda or the dunes, you just put your stuff down and then you can go over the. You know, I didn't need.
[00:42:37] Speaker C: I didn't find. I. I didn't find. I needed a chair at Lookout. Like, half the time I just was standing in the water.
[00:42:41] Speaker A: Yeah, we never did. We did. Yeah, we did get it. We got a couple of drinks and then got some, like, short chairs and stuffed them right in the water and let the water.
[00:42:48] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:42:49] Speaker A: Come up on us. Like, exact Brown song.
[00:42:55] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you just need one place.
[00:42:58] Speaker C: I just want to pause for. Because we've heard this from a few listeners, and I have not experienced it. Castaway key is getting that full that you can't find chairs. That's.
[00:43:06] Speaker B: Well, this is.
[00:43:07] Speaker A: It's Brian dream class ship.
[00:43:09] Speaker B: I know it's crazy, but I think the issue is. Is in part that, like. So I don't. I don't understand when a family of four takes four lounge chairs. I want to put this. I want to put this out there. Like, we are a family of three. We usually grab two lounge chairs for the three of us. We do not need three loungers because there's never going to be a time where all three of us is laying down.
[00:43:33] Speaker C: Never. Nathan's never, like, laying down.
[00:43:35] Speaker B: Like, he's never laying on a lounge chair. And. And even. Even. And I could. We could live with one because most of the time, the two of us are not laying on a lounge chair. So, like, I don't understand when, like, a family of four takes four lounge chairs. I mean, maybe if you have teenagers who, like, do truly lay in the lounge chairs all day, but, like, in general, that's not how it works.
[00:43:53] Speaker C: If you're two adults, you're two adults. I get it. If you're two adults sailing with, you know, two grandparents and one kid, I can understand taking four chairs. Right. I mean, like, I put it less. Let me just say this. I put it less on the people going to sort through, like, how they can make enough Space for everyone on the ship. And, like, I just don't remember Castaway Cay having this challenge when we were sailing on the Fantasy and, like, for the first time in 2018 or any of the subsequent sailings that we had done, you know, on the Dream Cross. Like, I don't know what's happened. Have they.
[00:44:23] Speaker B: Maybe they haven't replaced broken chairs. Yeah, maybe they haven't replaced broken ones. Who knows?
[00:44:27] Speaker C: Because if a Dream Class ship is struggling, I can't even imagine what it must be like on a Wish Class ship.
[00:44:33] Speaker B: Well, they're really not different passenger numbers, Brian. Remember, it's the same number of passengers. Really? Yeah, within a couple of. Yeah.
[00:44:41] Speaker C: But I also wonder, is it like, more adults are over on that beach because of the problems that Serenity Bay has had with all the sand, erosion and such?
[00:44:49] Speaker B: Like, that might be it.
[00:44:50] Speaker C: I'd love to get to the bottom of, like, what is going on that you can't get a chair at Cass, because I just don't remember that being a problem before. It's just insane.
[00:44:59] Speaker A: And to be fair, we didn't check the first beach.
[00:45:01] Speaker C: We.
[00:45:01] Speaker A: We always go to the second beach thinking it'll be easier. My friend, who's a travel agent, swears that if you can get there, like, if you'll go between the beaches, there's some, like, at the second stop. But if you walk back towards the first beach. So I did that first, but all those chairs were taken.
[00:45:16] Speaker B: Like, the hard part is that that's near Pelican Plunge. Yeah, the hard part. I think so. I think that used to be kind of that a spot that people would tend to find chairs. But I think because that is where Pelican Plunge is, I think that area actually gets more kind of more crowded. Now, I do think that usually Second Family beach is the way to go, because a lot of people just get off the tram, either walk or get off the tram after the first stop, not realizing, like, there's a whole nother beach. But. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I do think, though, Brian, I think your point about Serenity Bay being so. I don't want to say terrible, but Serenity Bay at Cassoway is not what it used to be. It's because of the erosion. And so it's this very, very shallow is the best way shallow beach. Right. Like, it's. You don't have, like, a long patch of sand that slopes down, you know, nicely. You have a very steep slope from at the beach because of that erosion. And so it's Very short, even though it's long lengthwise, but it's short, you know, to get to the water. And so I. I think that that has made maybe some adults who used to go to Serenity now really spend their time at Lookout or spend their time at Family Beach. But I think your point is right, Alex. Like, in general, if somebody were to say to me now, you know, which would you choose? I would choose Lookout probably every time. With the one exception being that if. If you've got somebody who's mobility challenged, I. I probably would. Would not make the recommendation. But in general, I would make that recommendation because it's just. It's a nicer beach and it's a better. I mean, there's more to do. It's just. It's beautiful. It is. Just getting. Getting your family across that darn pier. Just get the family to that tram and then you'll be fine.
It's. Yeah. Well, let's. Let's talk about. Did you try the food at. At Lookout?
[00:47:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I felt like. So at Castaway, it's more American fare, and it's good, but they tried to have more Bahamian type food. I feel like at Lookout. And it was really good, too, but it's obviously more adventurous if your kids aren't used to that. So being there with just my wife, it was great. We got to enjoy a lot of really good food.
[00:47:30] Speaker B: They still have hamburgers. Don't worry.
[00:47:32] Speaker A: Maybe I missed that part of the line. Yeah, they do.
[00:47:35] Speaker B: There's one. There's like, one part that has hamburgers and hot dogs. One of the windows, because they have, you know, different things at each window. There's one that has the hamburgers and hot dogs, so. No, never fear. And French fries. So that's. The French fries are. In addition, they don't have them at Castaway, so. Yeah, so that's. I think that's a. That's a bonus, too. So they've got both. But I agree. I think the food is a great addition. All right, well, let's. Let's talk about on the ship since we've hit both ports now. What kind of stuff did you guys get up to on your, you know, sea days or when you were on the ship or during, you know, NASA?
[00:48:11] Speaker A: I mean, we did tons of stuff. I always try to play some trivia with Della, the one that writes the. The blog articles, because she's a genius. Well, they're all geniuses, but she's particularly is a trivia genius. And so, like, we did like an animated Thing I think we got like fifth place, which is pretty good. Trying to, like, remember what character did what. And she was knocking it out of the park, which was really fun. We always do one of the silent DJ parties, which are hysterical. That one. It was a little bit challenging because Asher, you know, when he was a baby, he would just put a headphones on. He's like, whatever. But now he's, you know, like, take him off, put them on. Doesn't know what song we're looking on. Getting mad at us for changing the songs to get the song that we're listening to. And then.
And so that didn't last as long as we thought it would, but did that.
So all three kids. One of the challenging things was all three kids were in different kids areas.
[00:49:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Because your eldest is 11, like ours.
[00:49:10] Speaker A: Yeah. So she went. So she went to Edge and then. And that was the first time she's ever had a phone. So she was loving that we had borrowed a phone from a friend so that she could text us. And so she was very diligent about answering texts and looking up the. The only. The only thing she had was text and the Disney app. And so if anybody doesn't know listening, like, you can use. I think that Apple iMessager works better than the ship chat. So if you. Everybody has iPhones, y'all can chat with each other through WI fi better than. And then using the ship chat. Even if you don't have the actual.
[00:49:47] Speaker B: Internet, but you still want them to have the app because the app has the schedule of events. And so if they want. If like, for example, she wants to do, like, they might have a special trivia in the Edge or Edge Invades the kids Club or you know, one of these, like, special things for the tweens. Like, she would want to know when those things are happening so that she can be there for those events. And so having the app, even for us, even though we don't use the app to chat with Nathan, it. We still make sure he has that so that if he does want to do something or he wants to know what the schedule is, you know, he can open the app and see that. Yeah, that's super helpful. So you got her in Edge. You got. The middle one is in kids Club.
[00:50:32] Speaker A: Yeah, Oceaneer. Yeah. And then. And we let her. She was allowed to go and come as long as we knew where she was going. So we let her have that freedom. And then, of course, he's still in the nursery, which is nice.
[00:50:45] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:50:46] Speaker A: But he did not Enjoy as much.
[00:50:48] Speaker B: As, oh, he's not checking himself in and out of the nursery obviously, but he didn't enjoy it. I wonder if it's because he's sort of at that older end of the nursery age now that like knew that.
[00:51:00] Speaker A: He was getting left behind. Maybe. Yeah, I don't, I hate to say this, but the staff was not as like high energy, like, you're our best friend, we're so glad you're here. Like they usually are. They were just like, oh, hey, oh, let's check you in. Like, it wasn't like they didn't act excited to see him and it was, it was kind of awkward. And then they would text us like every 30 minutes to be like, he's having a tough time. And luckily they didn't do that during any of our like nice dinners. So I did was able to just go get him and take him out and that kind of thing. But yeah, he was super excited during like open house, like when we first got there. But then after that he was not excited to be there unless, unless somebody was excited to see him. I don't know.
[00:51:47] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a bummer. But I mean that definitely, I think that experience in really in any of the kids clubs, but I'm sure it's even more so in the, in the nursery where they're so little and where the, and where the ratio of counselors to kids is the lowest. If you have a really great interaction or if your kid has a great interaction with those cast members, it can make that transition so much easier. So that's a bummer. I know. It's funny, I was harking back to the episode that we did with you about what the process is for the nursery and all of that.
And I used one of your tips just the other day. I was telling somebody because they were going, they have kids that are, you know, kids club age, but I think they have their, their niece or nephew because the, you know, sister and brother in law are going with them with a, you know, a nursery age kid. And I was like, make sure you're there like 10 to 15 minutes before your reservation time. I was like, I remember this because Alex told us, like, you need to be there to fill out the paperwork and stuff and give them extra information every time you check in. You need a little bit of time. There might be a line. Yeah.
[00:52:54] Speaker C: Alex, can I ask a question? So just generally, I mean, you've, you've, you've been on five cruises and now you've sailed on all the the original ships. And, you know, you mentioned that your kid had a tough time, you know, kind of in the kids club this time. Do you think that any of that has to do? Like, what was the vibe with the staff on board this time around? Not just in the kids club, but more generally? Because I think we've been growing a little worried that as Disney increases its fleet size, like, you know, its ability to kind of maintain the staff quality that it always wants to have is. I'll just say, and I think we've said this on priority, we're seeing some cracks, you know, some shinks in the armor here around that quality. Did. Did you feel like that this time, or you just think it was just, you know, it was just a circumstance this time around.
[00:53:32] Speaker A: So I would say we saw it with the nursery. I felt like the kids club might. Or. Nobody complained about the kids club counselors. Neither of the girls did. I will. The only other place that I would say that I felt like it was not what it used to be was in the main dining that I think they had too many tables. Like, it was. We would see our, you know, you have your. You have your food server and your beverage server. We would see our beverage server bussing tables more than anything else. And we could never get her attention. And she would always just be right. Like we would have to ask our food server to bring us drinks that she hadn't brought us. And sometimes they would disappear for long periods of time, which has never happened. They didn't do it. Like, very rarely did they do, like, fun stuff with the kids, like where they were making napkins or magic tricks or whatever. You know, in all the past cruises, we've really gotten to know them, learn about their home country and all sorts of stuff and just it. We had no problem not going to, to, to not going so that we could go to Palo and Remy because we just felt like the service was really bad.
[00:54:37] Speaker B: That's such a bummer.
[00:54:38] Speaker A: Yeah. But in. Inside the adult restaurants was amazing. Yeah. Food was the same quality, in my opinion.
[00:54:44] Speaker B: Well, let's. Let's dive into talking about adult dining because you got the opportunity to do head to head comparison between Paulo and Remy on this cruise. And you said it was your first time going to Remy and so, you know, tell us like one. Are you and Audrey adventurous eaters? Let's start there.
[00:55:03] Speaker A: Yes, we're. We're extremely adventurous. So we were down for whatever you put in front of us just about.
[00:55:08] Speaker B: Yeah. So tell, tell us like, tell us what, what your impression was of Remy and, and, and how it compares to Paulo and then of course, like who you would recommend it for, because we've talked about that a lot on the show. But I'm curious to see if your experience sort of aligns with ours in that sense.
[00:55:25] Speaker A: So Remy is probably top three dicest restaurants I've ever been to, both in terms of the food quality and presentation and in the cost. So because we, you know, we were like, we're going to do this, we'll do the wine tasting. So we got the wine tasting, you know, with tip and everything. It ended up being $600 for the whole meal. But it was inexperience. I feel like Paulo, regular meal. Paulo was a restaurant, you know, it's a good restaurant. But Remy was an experience. It's. It's a completely different vibe.
[00:55:59] Speaker B: Let me interrupt you and tell you that if you go to a similar restaurant on land to Remy, you will pay at least twice what you quoted at $600, but probably more like three times that amount.
[00:56:13] Speaker C: So no, you think, you think with wine.
[00:56:17] Speaker B: Yeah, with wine for two people. Yeah. I would say like Victoria and Alberts.
[00:56:21] Speaker A: Is roughly maybe a little bit more than that. I don't know. I've never been to Victoria and Alberts.
[00:56:26] Speaker C: But I can tell you, Sam, none of the places we. I mean, it's. It's been a little while, but not.
[00:56:30] Speaker B: Okay, maybe not three times, but definitely twice as much.
[00:56:33] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's. It, it var.
[00:56:35] Speaker A: It varies wildly.
[00:56:36] Speaker C: I mean, a tasting. High quality tasting menu at one of these like, you know, Michelin star places, like somewhere between 250 and 500 a person easy.
[00:56:46] Speaker B: Right.
[00:56:46] Speaker C: And then.
[00:56:47] Speaker B: Right.
[00:56:47] Speaker C: And then the wine.
[00:56:48] Speaker B: But yeah, well, and the wine. Yeah. It depends if you do pairings or if they have pairings or you know, versus ordering off of. Off of a menu.
[00:56:56] Speaker C: But I'm guessing for two, you'd be looking at somewhere between a thousand and fifteen hundred dollars is probably what you're looking at spending for.
[00:57:02] Speaker A: For. Yeah.
[00:57:04] Speaker C: Start. But that's not three.
[00:57:05] Speaker B: That's two times to three times. Which is what I said. Right. Somewhere in between.
[00:57:10] Speaker C: A factor in the tip too.
[00:57:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:57:12] Speaker B: Right.
[00:57:12] Speaker C: I guess I get maybe. Maybe.
[00:57:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:57:16] Speaker C: I'm gonna go back and look at what our last bill was at dinner by Hessen Blumenthal.
[00:57:20] Speaker B: Yeah. In London. Yeah.
[00:57:22] Speaker C: Anyway, there, there's no.
[00:57:24] Speaker A: So we did go to. Yeah, we went to New York in December and. Hello. So we've been watching the show the Bear. Have you guys seen the.
[00:57:31] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:57:31] Speaker A: And that, that's probably a really dangerous show to watch because it makes you want to spend a lot of money on food. But so I looked up a couple of, you know, Michelin star restaurants in New York and those were like starting at 250 a plate without the wine package. So yeah, it could have. That easily could have run up to twice or three times the price. But of course that's New York, which is probably one of the most expensive cities in the country. So.
[00:57:55] Speaker B: But not that, you know, but if you think about it like you're only.
Most of these kind of restaurants exist in the largest big cities, right?
[00:58:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:58:04] Speaker B: So you're, you might have like one available to you in a smaller city, but in general you're not going to have like. Yeah, they're, you're not going to have the same caliber in a smaller city as a Michelin star, is what I'm saying. I'm not saying you won't have like nice restaurants. You might have fantastic restaurants, but in general there's just not, not a, not a plethor of Michelin starred restaurants outside of large cities.
[00:58:29] Speaker C: Well, that's, that's actually changing quite a bit, Sam, because like Michelin just start a taco cantina.
[00:58:35] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I mean there are, there, like I said, there is exceptions to every rule. But there, you know, you don't have.
[00:58:40] Speaker C: In the U.S. in the U.S. yes, in the U.S. outside the U.S. they actually have quite a few places that are outside the urban areas. Like in the US they tend to be in large cities.
[00:58:49] Speaker B: Yes. Okay, so you said top three nicest restaurants that you've been to in your life.
And Palo is a nice restaurant, but not is completely, you're right. A different, it's an experience. What did you guys think of the food? Like, what did you think of, you know, the quality of, of, you know, the food they were presenting in the presentation?
[00:59:10] Speaker A: I thought it was incredible. I mean, it looks like a piece of art. You feel bad digging into it and then.
[00:59:17] Speaker B: And mixing it together. Right?
[00:59:19] Speaker A: Yeah. And, and I, I always hesitate to talk too much about fancy food because I don't think I'm an expert on anything. But it tasted good and the wine pairings worked, worked really well together. And I could tell like how much effort they had put into creating different flavors besides, you know, as opposed to another restaurant you might want to go to like a barbecue restaurant. It's like, how much food can they give you? And this was the, you know, how artistic can they make it and creative they can make it and it definitely felt like a work of art. So it was a great experience.
[00:59:51] Speaker B: Awesome. And would you recommend it to people? And if so, like, who would you recommend it to? Because we, we try to, like, tell people when they ask us, oh, should I go to Paulo or should I go to Remy? And we try to ask a few questions before we give that recommendation.
[01:00:05] Speaker A: So you are giving up probably a show and you're giving up a main dining experience. And so I was. I would say if you're new to Disney Cruising, go do the main show, do the shows, do the main dining, and then as you get more experienced, move into that, which is what we did. Just because I feel like we never were interested because we were afraid of missing out of stuff we also hadn't seen. But since we've done, you know, I think we missed the Golden Mickeys. And we mix a magic show or something.
We were fine doing that because we've done those before. And so. And it's a three hour meal, making sure everybody else is taken care of and that we had enough childcare lined up and that, you know, our girls weren't punching each other and Asher crying in the nursery or something like that.
[01:00:52] Speaker B: Right. You gotta get them all fed too. That's the other part. Right. You got to get them all fed.
[01:00:56] Speaker A: Right. Which is easier. That's easier than main dining because they'll just go get the pizza off the top deck.
[01:01:02] Speaker C: And so, Sam, to return to the conversation for just a second, I did actually go look up what our last bill was at dinner by Hessen Blumen.
[01:01:09] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:01:10] Speaker C: This is in September of 22, so it's three years old. And they don't have gratuity in the UK. I actually tried to pay gratuity in the UK. They wouldn't let me. And dinner is a.
I want two.
[01:01:21] Speaker B: I think it's a two star.
[01:01:22] Speaker C: Yeah, a two star Michelin restaurant. And it was 800. Could be $862.
[01:01:27] Speaker B: Oh, that's not. Wait, are you sure it wasn't pounds?
[01:01:30] Speaker C: No, no, I'm looking at the dollars.
[01:01:32] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
[01:01:33] Speaker C: Got charged.
[01:01:33] Speaker B: Oh, that's really good.
[01:01:35] Speaker C: Well, yeah, I mean, that's part of why I like to go to that restaurant. But like, that included wine and meal and everything.
[01:01:40] Speaker B: So, like, we didn't have wine pairings. I don't think we have one pair.
[01:01:43] Speaker C: But I definitely have. I'm. The way I found this is I'm looking at a photo of you cheersing me with a glass of wine. So there was definitely wine involved.
[01:01:50] Speaker B: There was wine involved. I don't know if you did wine pairings, but, yeah, I think.
[01:01:54] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, just putting it out there.
[01:01:56] Speaker A: I'll say the wine pairing is a lot of wine.
[01:01:59] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a lot of wine. Right. They have to, like, carry you out of. Especially Remy, where you've already had a Colette cocktail to start the meal. Right. They give you that cocktail right. When you get seated. And so, yeah, if you do the wine pairings also. Yeah, it's a. It's a lot of.
[01:02:15] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I was supposed to have a whiskey tasting that night, and I had to be like, I. I was like, I could still go if you're gonna charge me for it, but you might have to, like, drag me back to dinner afterwards.
[01:02:26] Speaker B: Right.
[01:02:28] Speaker A: Protein. They're like, we hear you. We don't want you.
[01:02:33] Speaker B: We don't want to overpour.
[01:02:35] Speaker A: So they didn't charge me for the.
[01:02:38] Speaker B: That's nice. That's nice. So don't. Don't count on it. For those listening, don't count on them not charging for that canceled drink tasting if you're canceling it day of. That's. That is not guaranteed. And usually they. I mean, occasionally they. They will, but it's not guaranteed. So if you're going to cancel something, do it ahead of time, but don't book a drink tasting for the same night that you're doing a Remy or an Enchante or even a Palo meal, frankly. Because if you're going to have wine with your dinner, I don't think they.
[01:03:05] Speaker A: Were full glasses of wine, but it was five glasses of wine, so probably. Probably ended up being the equivalent of three to four glasses of wine. And once you count that cocktail, too.
[01:03:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Because they. They're. It's supposed to be a tasting pour, right. But they. Which is, I think, like, I don't know, 2 or 3 ounces, something like that. But they always give you. I mean, they're not, like, measuring it, so they're just kind of eyeballing it. And I feel like they tend to give you on the heavier side of whatever the poor is supposed to be, so. All right, well, any other stuff that. Any other highlights from this cruise that you wanted to be sure to touch on? I feel like I have a funny.
[01:03:43] Speaker A: Story about Rumi that I got.
[01:03:45] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I love that. Oh, you got in trouble.
[01:03:48] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. So I collect pens like. Like writing pens, like, because, you know, they got this plastic Walt Disney World or Disney cruise line pins. And whenever I go, I ask. Usually I'll Ask. And they're like, ah, take it. I'll give you five, whatever. And I was like, well, this is a fun pen at Remy. And so I signed a check and put it in my pocket, and they called my stateroom five minutes later. Excuse me. And they were like, did you happen to take the pen? And I was like, yeah, is that a problem? Yeah, we did it back, and I looked at the pen, and it was. It was a Cartier pen.
[01:04:20] Speaker B: Oh.
[01:04:20] Speaker A: Like, oh.
[01:04:22] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness.
Oh, my goodness.
[01:04:26] Speaker C: That's funny.
[01:04:27] Speaker B: I don't.
[01:04:28] Speaker A: I don't take the pen at Remy. You could take the pen out of Paulo, but don't take the pen out of Remy.
[01:04:33] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. I don't think.
[01:04:34] Speaker C: I think the people at Remy. I think I've noticed this for. It's not like a Remy pen. I don't.
[01:04:39] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It must. Yeah.
[01:04:40] Speaker A: It was just a Buy the pen. I was like, this is a good pen. But it was a. Yeah, it was a French pen. You know, Cartier.
[01:04:46] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness.
[01:04:47] Speaker A: Jewelry company pen. It was probably, like, a 200 pen.
[01:04:52] Speaker B: Yeah, it's probably several hundred dollars. Yeah.
[01:04:53] Speaker A: I ran it back up there. I was like, I don't want that on my. My.
[01:04:57] Speaker B: On my stateroom bill. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, my goodness, Alex, that's so funny. I wouldn't have thought that. But I mean, I feel like we've gotten. I mean, I've definitely taken pens from restaurants before, but I like the pens. I actually like it when you like it, when the pen has, like, the name of the restaurant on it. Right. And then they want you to take the pen, typically, because, like, I have.
[01:05:15] Speaker A: A. I have an appetizing pen.
[01:05:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:05:18] Speaker A: I mean. Yeah. And some of the other restaurants in Disneyland and. And not a lot of them have. Napa Rose is probably the only one that's not just at Disney World or Disneyland pen. But.
[01:05:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, and at Paolo, I think it's usually the Disney cruise line pen. The one that's, like the. It's, like, beige and then with the blue cap. Yeah, yeah.
[01:05:37] Speaker A: But the prima natte, they gave us actual, like, collector pens. Like, pens you put in your shirt or hat, not writing pin. And so that was kind of fun to get. So the prima natte was a great experience, too.
[01:05:48] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, we didn't ask you about that. I'm glad you brought it up. Yeah. You. So this was your first time doing Prima Note. Yeah, yeah. And. And you thought it was worthwhile. I think we've said it, you know, Definitely worthwhile experience.
[01:05:59] Speaker A: Yeah. It's it was fun because you got so much education about the different areas of Italy. And we actually had dinner at the main serving and still did that. And the tastings were so small that, you know, we didn't feel like it was too much food and, and the wine was good and the really good desserts. And they gave you this collector's pen. So that was fun. And then of course we knew to staff. So when we went back to the dinner, like, it was real fun to interact with them.
[01:06:27] Speaker B: And I mean, you can always request like a specific server at Paulo or Remy if you. If you know, like someone who is there and you know, maybe dine with them before. But if you didn't, Prima note is a great opportunity to meet, you know, even usually a couple of the servers and you can then request one of them for your dinner.
[01:06:46] Speaker A: People always look at you weird when you say that you're doing the Prima Note because they remember the movie Braveheart, which prima nocta was the thing where the king would take the bride on her wedding night instead of let her be with her husband.
They're like, isn't that the thing where, like I said, no, no, no. It just meets first night. Like the first night.
[01:07:08] Speaker C: Disney is still a family friendly cruise line.
[01:07:10] Speaker B: Yes, that's right.
[01:07:11] Speaker C: Well, Alex, it sounds like a fantastic cruise. Is there anything like in particular we missed that you wanted to be sure that we.
[01:07:19] Speaker A: We talked about Beauty and the Beast was amazing. I heard Sam talk about that on a. I found your cruise episodes where you talked about the dream. Like, I went and searched through Spotify to find them so I could get ready for the trip. And Beauty and the Beast was awesome. We took Asher in a Beast costume and that was a lot of fun. Oh, oh, we didn't talk about Marvel day of Sea.
[01:07:41] Speaker B: Oh, you had Marvel Day at Sea.
[01:07:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So that was awesome.
Though there was a hiccup because we were too close to, I guess, us waters on the night that we were supposed to have the fireworks show. And so they switched it and moved it to the night before. And it wasn't just the show they moved to the night before. They moved all of the stuff they did in the atrium to the night before. And we totally were thrown off. So we had like costumes. Everybody was gonna. We. We weren't ready for it at all. But we still got to meet all the characters and it was just really cool. I mean, there was characters everywhere.
[01:08:16] Speaker B: Oh, that's awesome.
[01:08:17] Speaker A: So.
[01:08:17] Speaker B: So they moved the heroes. The heroes unite deck party. Then to a different Night. Interesting.
[01:08:23] Speaker A: Yeah. So they moved the deck party and the atrium party to the night before, but then called it still called it A Marble Day at Sea and did lots of other Marvel stuff the rest of the that day. The next day. The only thing I'll complain about that is that they play soundtrack music the whole time over the speakers during them. And it's like really stressful. It's like you're in the middle of a fight scene every time you're waiting for an elevator.
[01:08:48] Speaker B: Instead of like your. Your like happy, you know, maybe cruising versions of Disney songs and stuff. Yeah, right. Yeah, I see that because.
Yeah, that's like. Yeah, that would be a little bit stressful. Your heart's like pounding from. From the suspenseful music. Yeah, I love that.
So it sounds like you had a Marvel sundown to sundown day at sea.
[01:09:10] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it was a Marvel.
[01:09:12] Speaker B: It was like Shabbat or something.
Exactly. You and I went the same place at the same time, Alex. A Marvel Shabbat. Slide down. To slide down.
[01:09:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:09:25] Speaker B: Awesome.
[01:09:26] Speaker A: Awesome. Yeah. So that was a lot of fun because we had gotten. I'd been watching the Marvel movies with my oldest daughter and then we've gotten Asher all the costumes. So he had a Thor costume and, and was running around what he calls the capes, his supers. And so he runs around and. And this is the first time he hasn't been scared of characters. So it was a lot of fun.
[01:09:44] Speaker B: Oh, that makes it even better.
[01:09:47] Speaker A: Giving Mickey hugs and high fiving Spider man and so.
[01:09:51] Speaker C: Well, Alex, it sounds like a fabulous time on board the Disney Dream. Glad you can put the grand slam to bed and maybe get on one of the newer ships. Which leads me to my last question, which is is what's next? Have you got anything booked? Did you pick up a placeholder? Anything you're eyeing or waiting for?
[01:10:09] Speaker A: Yeah, we got two placeholders. Because I'm always hoping that we'll get some grandparents to come with us. I think this time we're trying really hard to get Audrey's mom and grandmother to come with us. And if we could just get the girls with them, then we can save a ton of money.
[01:10:24] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, because then you get two four person rooms.
[01:10:27] Speaker A: Yeah, right. And it also opens up tons of availability on lots of cruise ships too. Like, but definitely looking at the wish. Or maybe we'll try a destination time. So the kids are getting older. Like, I don't know. We really want to take the girls to Europe or Alaska at some point. But then we also have Asher and We don't know if we want to leave him with the rest of us. So we're still, I don't know what, what's going to happen, but because we've, we've done so many. All five of them were Caribbean sailings. We're four eastern and one Western Caribbean sailing.
[01:11:00] Speaker B: So yeah, you could always try like a, a west coast, like Baja cruise or something. But it's still, it's just more beach destinations. Right. It's not like. But it's, it's hard with the little one.
[01:11:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I think, I mean, I'm not against doing one of the long transatlantic or just repositioning cruises because that's a really good bang for your buck. And we really just enjoy days at sea sitting there reading. So we may, we may attempt something like that if it works out with scheduling. That's the hard part is that if it's during school, like I don't mind pulling my kids out for a week, but I'm not gonna pull em out for two weeks.
[01:11:35] Speaker B: Yeah, unfortunately, I mean, we've, we keep looking at those longingly as well, you know, looking at, you know, transatlantic, Trans Pacific, Panama Canal. And they're all during our school, you know, our school year here, which is.
[01:11:49] Speaker A: Because that's the low tunnel.
[01:11:51] Speaker B: Exactly, exactly. And so it's just not like you were. Well, we can't even really pull at 11 now. It's just hard to pull him out even for a couple days is hard. So a week is hard. But yeah, two weeks is just not doable for us for sure. But yeah. Well, I hope you decide on something new soon and that you will come back and see us and of course tell us all about it because we so enjoy having you on Alex. Alex, why don't you tell folks where they can find you if they want to follow along in your adventures and where they can find your blog, of course.
[01:12:27] Speaker A: So I write mostly. I'm a blogger for seconddadtothewright.com that's instead of second star to the right. And I have, I'm on Facebook and I'm on Pinterest. I used to be on Instagram but it doesn't really get much. So now I just post reels on Facebook, try to drive traffic that way. So I post goofy stuff on Facebook and then I post more informational stuff on the website and I've got a bunch of articles on Disney World and on Disney Cruise and then a couple on Disneyland from our trip last summer. But just trying to help people have more fun out there.
[01:13:03] Speaker B: Absolutely. And one of my favorite articles that you wrote is all about the history of Castaway Cay. So I would definitely urge people to go to your website and check that one out. Check out all the stuff that Alex has got on there and if you want like really detailed stuff about, you know, how to access the nursery, he has all kinds of great resources on Second dad to the right. So thanks so much Alex for coming on. We so appreciate you and as I said, you're welcome back anytime. Can't wait to have you back on hopefully after your next Disney cruise.
[01:13:36] Speaker A: I love being here. Thanks guys.
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