[00:00:00] Speaker A: But the adventure just looks so different from the others and has multiple funnels. Right. And is ugly. And I agree with you, Chris.
[00:00:09] Speaker B: Let's zoom in and see if we can find a tower suite in there.
[00:00:14] Speaker A: I mean, I agree with you.
[00:00:16] Speaker C: All of them will have tower suites by the end of it.
[00:00:30] Speaker B: Welcome back, everybody, to a live episode of the DCL duo podcast. We've been on hiatus now for two weeks, but we are back, and boy, do we have a doozy. I think over the weekend, Sam and Sam and I were like, what are we gonna talk about on this show?
And Disney delivered this afternoon.
[00:00:45] Speaker C: Disney took care of it for you?
[00:00:46] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
We gotta start not just this afternoon, but, like, even a couple of days ago. And then today, it was like, oh, my God. Now it's even more that we have to talk about. So, yeah, this was. I was. I was unsure if we were gonna be able to show.
[00:01:01] Speaker B: Wait, hold on. And we lost our live guest last minute, but Disney delivered again with Chris. So one of our favorite people to talk to about Disney, he's at Disney right now, and he's taking time out of his day to come talk to us. So let's welcome Chris back to our show, Sam.
[00:01:20] Speaker A: Yeah, welcome back, Chris.
[00:01:21] Speaker C: Thank you. It's so good to be here. And I was thrilled, always thrilled to get text from you guys. So it's always awesome.
So last night, I was trying to go see the drone show over at Disney Springs, and I even got the, like, fancy dinner that you can do at Haleo.
And then it got rained out, so I lightninged out, so I didn't get to see it, so. Oh, well, I'm going to try again another night.
[00:01:47] Speaker A: That's a bummer.
They do a late show, though, right? Don't they do two shows every night? So if the weather.
[00:01:54] Speaker C: I'm old, and so by, like, 1045, like, that means I'm not getting to bed for a long time. And, like, I'm just too old for that, so.
[00:02:04] Speaker A: Well, tell us where you're live from, Chris. Like, where are you staying right now?
[00:02:08] Speaker C: I am at. I'm using my DVC points. I am at Disney's boardwalk villas in a very nice. I'm by myself in a one bedroom villa. So I am just spreading out, baby. I, like, I have tons of space.
And I warned Sam before I posted on Twitter x or whatever, why do I still use that platform? But whatever I posted there that I have my various DCL shirts and I may have to stop my camera midway through the show and do a total share and change.
[00:02:41] Speaker B: Costume change.
[00:02:42] Speaker A: Costume change. We love it. We love it. Listen, we would expect nothing less than you, Chris, from you Chris. Cause Chris, if you don't know Chris and you haven't seen him on video before, he's been on our show before, both audio and live versions. But he has a collection of Disney shorts like no other. He's got really two collections. One is the short sleeve button down. I'm going to call him hawaiian.
[00:03:07] Speaker C: Hawaiian. Kind of these ones.
[00:03:09] Speaker A: Right? And then he also has an entire collection of spirit jerseys.
[00:03:13] Speaker C: And now I'm having, look, I'm expanding to universal. So, like, now they're starting to make universal spirit jerseys. So I have an epic universe spirit jersey now. Like, oh, my God, my spouse will be so, like, how do you spell divorce?
[00:03:29] Speaker A: I love it, Chris. Oh, my goodness.
[00:03:32] Speaker B: Well, well, the fans are demanding speculation, and so we got a break. We got a lot to cover. Yeah. So, like, we need. We got our breaking news logo. I feel like we need some sort of sound. This is the closest I have law order. There you go. So pause that. So, yes, breaking news today out of Disney cruise line. So we are going to talk about the ship. As we said, we're going to talk about the ship in Japan a little bit. We're going to talk about D 23, but we can't not talk about this. So for context, this afternoon, late this afternoon, our time, early evening on the east coast time, Twitter, actually, Twitter. Instagram started blowing up because travel agents out there are getting Destiny reveal boxes. And so just like with the wish, they sent out a little box that had a bunch of little stuff in it to try and get people excited about the wish that was come or the wish coming for the treasure. They sent out the treasure map for the Destiny, they have sent out a box of goodies. And it looks like there's two different versions, actually multiple different versions, but two different core versions of the box. One is a large weekend bag, the other is a fanny pack style bag. And what you are supposed to do is open these little cardboard doors that are on the bottom of the box, and it reveals patches that you can then sew on to customize your bag. Well, the patches are apparently hints at the characters ip that will be on the ship. And so let's dive right in here for 1 second. Uh, one of the first things you noticed in these videos is that it, there's a little place card in there that says uncover your destiny July 30, 31st and August 1. So next week. And what the back of the card reads for those not watching. If you're listening at home afterwards, I will read this stuff to you. Also encourage you to head over to YouTube because you'll be able to see the patches in the video. We have a PowerPoint up, but the back of this card reads your first step to being, uh, I got this wrong, but you're some of your first step. As you open the doors to reveal clues to the case of legendary characters and experiences waiting on board the Destiny. Somehow they got screwed up. I think it actually read something like your first step toward your destiny is opening the doors to reveal the clues. But then it goes on to say your journey continues with an in depth look at Disney Cruise Line's newest ship revealed in a three day event. Tune in July 30 through August 1 on the Disney Parks blog to discover the different stories, characters, and itinerary information coming to the Disney Destiny. So, yes, it is going to be a three day event across the 30th, the 31st, and the first, which I suspect the first will be the itinerary release date, which would align to some speculation. We've heard from some listeners out there who've been talking to folks on board who said that itineraries would start booking on August 5.
[00:06:18] Speaker A: One big thing, by the way, Brian, it's your first step begins.
[00:06:21] Speaker B: Your first being. Yes, your first step begins. The one major thing I want to point out, because we are going to be talking about some D 23 speculation tonight, is that all of these dates are well before D 23. So the destiny is off the table as a D 23 announcement because they are going to reveal her and drop her itineraries before D 23 even starts. That is some huge news, like the. The news ramp here at a Disney cruise line leading into D 23. And we'll talk about this a bit more when we talk about D 23. Speculation is insane. So let's move on to the patches.
[00:06:57] Speaker A: Okay, can I. Can I say this, Brian? So there I have spotted throughout various Instagram reels. So there's a bunch of different folks who have these boxes. And like Brian said, there's a fanny pack version that has five patches accompanying with the fanny pack. And then there is a larger weekender bag, kind of more like a tote weekender bag that's got ten patches with those boxes. And I have spotted 13 different types of patches out there through these various Instagram reels. So the ones you're seeing right now on your screen, if you're watching us on YouTube, are Black Panther, the Mariner, who is from haunted mansion, and haunted mansion parlor, which has been announced on the Disney treasure. Right next to the mariner is Vanellope's car, her race car. Right next to that, on the top row, right hand corner is Hakuna Matata. And actually, next to that, you can't really see it, but that's a Loki patch. And. And then below there is olaf lounging on a lounger, drinking what looks like a fun, fruity drink.
[00:08:02] Speaker C: It's summer.
[00:08:03] Speaker A: Yeah, it's summer. Exactly. We've got a doctor strange, the eye of Agamotto, or whatever it's called.
[00:08:09] Speaker B: You got it. The eye of Agamotto.
[00:08:11] Speaker A: And then on the bottom, we've got a cruella deville patch. But I want to tell you, the other ones that I spotted online, which are, one is a Disney destiny. So it's just like the logo, the words Disney Destiny. There is a hero mini patch. There is a Captain Mickey patch. There is a jack Jack patch holding an ice cream cone, a vanilla ice cream cone. It looks like there is an incredibles eye logo. There is a, we already said Loki patch. There is a. Oh, the mariner one. Yeah, that's all of them.
[00:08:47] Speaker B: So the ones you actually know, Taryn is saying that she has spotted a pain patch.
[00:08:54] Speaker A: Ooh, pain and panic from, from Hercules. That would make sense, because so right now, we, we know from that comic book cover and that little comic book video that we had a couple months ago of the Destiny that Hercules and Hades are all also going to be featured on the Disney Destiny. But I had not seen.
[00:09:14] Speaker B: Taryn said she saw Stark industries.
[00:09:20] Speaker A: Love it. Yeah. Okay, so if you, anyone else out there, if you've seen other ones besides the ones I've named or we've just named that Taryn saw, please let us know, because that's right now, that's 15 new patches. So if there's pain and panic in Stark industries, that's 15 patches we've seen with various ip across the Disney Destiny.
[00:09:42] Speaker B: So I want to get Chris's thoughts on this. I do just want to say from a reveal standpoint, I love this in that not everyone got the same thing. And so it's like a massive scavenger hunt across the Internet to see what people got to know, what they might be up to. Chris, what? I have thoughts on what this is signaling on board the ship, but do you have any immediate reactions to some of these ips and what it's going to mean? Chris?
[00:10:06] Speaker C: Well, first off, I think it's just like, I'm actually happy that they're not doing it. At D 23, because guess what? They have a lot of park stuff that they need to cover, and they, I think, only have 90 minutes in the parks, you know, parks and entertainment discussion. So I'm glad that we're taking this off and it's not going to take up half of that program, because guess what? We need to hear some what's going on in the parks.
But, and we've always seen, in fact, Scott is Gustine. Gustein on Twitter.
[00:10:41] Speaker B: Scott Gustin?
Yeah.
[00:10:44] Speaker C: I was listening to him on some program the other day, and he was saying they always release a whole bunch of stuff, like, the weeks before, and magically enough, here it comes. We get a whole bunch of stuff just before D 23. So it's very exciting. I mean, I think this, we were talking before. I think this kind of replaces the map that they use for the wish in the treasure. So it seems like this is giving us our little clue, and we get to play the Internet game and figure out what all these pieces actually mean.
[00:11:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
So here's my broad thoughts on this, and we will find out for sure in about a little under a week. Now, I think all of the Marvel stuff is signaling P's worlds of Marvel's coming back.
[00:11:27] Speaker A: No giant surprise there, but maybe some different shows, right? Because we've got, we've got Black Panther, we've got Doctor Strange, we've got Loki, and now Stark industries. Right? Like, so we could be seeing some alt some. We could even see two new shows in worlds of Marvel, and maybe they'll rotate something out on wish in particular.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: Yeah. And so I think worlds of Marvel's a no brainer. It's coming back. It's the animators palette of the wish class ships. I think that this artwork that we're showing on the screen right in the middle, the mariner, that is, like, straight out of the announcements off the parks blog for the drink, for the tiki mugs in the haunted mansion bar. So kind of surprisingly, it sounds like they're not going to retheme that bar across each ship. I am suspecting we will see another haunted mansion bar on the destiny, which a little disappointed, if I'm perfectly honest. I love that they were doing, like, Star wars and haunted mansions. They're like, okay, what's the next thing going to be? But maybe knowing that that bar is going to be popular, and we also suspect that the Destiny is going to be sailing out of Fort Lauderdale. And so trying to get people down there with the most popular ip they can, in addition to, like, lookout key being on the itinerary. So I suspect that that's what that signals. I suspect all the incredible stuff is signaling a return of the. What's the space called, Sam?
[00:12:45] Speaker A: The incredibles in the hero Zone.
You know, I'm going to, I'm going to disagree with you there as much as I would say, yes, incredible. When I first saw the incredibles logo, I thought, yes, incredible. But then when I saw Jack Jack with an ice cream cone, I had a second thought and thinking, oh, maybe ice cream parlor. Yeah, the ice cream parlor. The sweet chop ice cream parlor.
[00:13:08] Speaker B: What's going on with. What's going on with Vanellope? What's going on with Vanellope? Because Vanellope is here and that's got to be candy related, right?
[00:13:15] Speaker C: So, like, they could do one of the, you know, Mickey's runaway. They could do Mickey's, you know, the coaster, the, oh, that, you know, do a vanellope one as you go up, racing through.
[00:13:30] Speaker A: But it could also just be, you know, like, we've got wheezy's freezies on the wish, which is that outdoor bar that has, like, some fun candy drinks and things like that. We could have, like, a themed, um, frozen drink bar. Frankly, that could be actually for Jack. Jack Jack nom nom.
[00:13:48] Speaker B: Yeah, McU saying Jack Jack's nom noms. I would have, yeah, I want to 1 second and just bring up another comment from into here who says, guess they don't have enough time for DCL during D 23. I just want to say, like, seriously, buckle up. Like, I don't think it that we're going to talk about this at the end of the show. I don't think it's that they're not going to make Disney Cruise line announcements. What I think is going on is they're, like, clearing out the, well, I think they have so much stuff to announce, but I also think what they're going to focus their 90 minutes presentation on is the $60 billion investment that's coming to, and so they can't release destiny announcements and claim that that's attached to the $60 billion investment. I think Disney Cruise line is going to have an announcement. I just think that this stuff is viewed as, like, not important enough to put into that 90 minutes, given the stakes that they're going to have for the parks. And so we'll talk about at the end of the show. But I have some ideas as to what's coming. But anyway, let's, let's go back to the.
[00:14:41] Speaker A: I love these other comments, though. I love Linda's comments. First of all, Jack. Jack's nom noms from n two. I like that idea. That could be the sweet shop with cookies and whatnot. Just like we see right in front of the incredico store or Disneyland. But I love Linda's comments. Vanellope obstacle course. Right? So we could see, instead of the incredible course, you could see like a Lego race course. Right. That would be a vanellope. That would make sense with the car. And then, yeah, we've got Olaf and then Tracy saying, is a frozen slushy bar, like wheezy's freezies. And then we've got Gabe saying one of the walk up bars for Vanellope, which is what I kind of think.
[00:15:16] Speaker B: That'S the other thing, is that some of this stuff, sometimes they drop this iP and then it turns out to be kind of like, well, it was a room theme, right? Or it was like, we don't. We don't know. Right. There was there, even with the treasure map, where there was stuff, like, right where you think a venue would be. It turned out to really not be venue related. So, like, the thing is, we don't know. We're going to find out. I think it's always fun to kind of talk around this stuff. I. What I'm interested in is, does any of this hint at a new restaurant experience? We had cocoa, we had frozen. Like, what's the new restaurant going to be on?
[00:15:46] Speaker C: Wasn't there a lion King thing?
[00:15:48] Speaker A: Yeah, there's Lion King and Hercules.
[00:15:52] Speaker C: And I think there has to be a villains thing. One of the restaurants should be a villains thing. That would be really fun to have, like, you know, like Haiti, cruella.
[00:16:02] Speaker A: Right. You could have multiple. That's. That is true. You could have, like, multiple villains. Right. We've got. We've got Cruella here on the bottom right hand corner. And we know that Hades is going to be on here. And, of course, pain and panic. So we definitely could just do a general and Loki.
[00:16:16] Speaker B: They could do a general villains restaurant like that. I mean, like, well, they have this model right at the. At Bay Lake Tower, the top of the world, the villains lair concept. Like, it would actually been interesting if instead of a haunted mansion bar, you got a villains lair kind of bar at sea, but they could have a villains lair restaurant, and it's all songs and characters that are villains. I don't know how well that would go over with the kids.
Yeah, it would have to have a hero element of vanquishing. Hero element.
[00:16:45] Speaker A: Yeah, you could have just like, you could do like a hero villain storyline kind of show where the heroes win, of course, because that's what you have to have in order to have a little kids. And you can't use super scary Victor scary villains.
[00:16:58] Speaker B: You have to ct saying it would just scare the kids, too.
[00:17:01] Speaker A: I agree.
[00:17:01] Speaker B: Like, I don't think that'll work. Linda's saying you do it.
[00:17:06] Speaker C: I mean, you know, in the end, they're kind of cartoonish villains, right?
[00:17:09] Speaker A: Exactly. You'd have to use the cartoonish villains. You couldn't use the kind of more scary villains. I, by the way, can we pull up Wesley Davenport's comments? Because I kind of love this. He says my new favorite way to listen to the live show is from a recliner at Costco while my wife browses the middle eye. I just love that. I'm picturing you, Wesley, sitting in her recliner in Costco.
[00:17:31] Speaker C: One of those massage chairs. I'm imagining one of those massage chairs going off.
[00:17:36] Speaker A: I love that. I also love CT.
[00:17:39] Speaker B: I also love Josh. Hold on. I like Josh McHenry's comment. Starting to get the ship names confused. It is a fun world to live in where we can't keep all the ships straight. So there you go.
[00:17:49] Speaker A: I love CT's prediction. Or at least I would say hope rather than prediction as he says it. Oh, not that one. Marvel Shawarma stand is a wish.
I would love a marvel. I mean, we do have shawarma already on two of the shows.
[00:18:07] Speaker B: No, they haven't. Well, they have, they have the shawarma stands at Disneyland in Avengers campus.
[00:18:11] Speaker A: No, I know, but that we do have. We have, they have shawarma on.
We have it on the magic and the wonder already. And so it's not great Shawarma, but it's okay.
[00:18:23] Speaker B: Yeah. So I kind of want to, I kind of want to wind down this discussion because we're going to, spoiler alert. We will have as many shows as it takes next week to discuss all of the announcements that are coming out. So if they do, the ship reveal next, whatever that is, on the 30th, on Tuesday, expect to hear from the DCL duo on Tuesday. If they do, if they do, the itinerary drop on August 1, we will be coming out to talk to you about the itinerary. So that is, I love my friend.
[00:18:53] Speaker C: Bottle wine, by the way.
[00:18:57] Speaker B: We'll be working with our friend Red Bull over here, trying to keep up with everything. But I want to, I want to ask the question, Sam, to you really fast and then we should move on to this Japan announcement. Um, we talked a little bit about restaurants, bars, all that sort of stuff. We know the overall theming of the ship show. Does any of us hit a show for you like a lion King show?
[00:19:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So there's two things, and one of them, Linda, has already called out, and I would say to me, there's two really perfect opportunities for a stage show. One of those is Lion King. Obviously, they've been doing it on Broadway for forever. It's fantastic. They could do a kind of a pared down version. So we have an easy model for it. But the other is Hercules. Like, Hercules is having a moment right now. There is a Broadway. I'm calling it Broadway. It's not Broadway, but there is a professional cast over in Germany doing Hercules right now.
It could. There has been a touring production a couple of times of Hercules, so they definitely could revive Hercules and make that a mean siege show. Either of those two avengers. Avengers.
[00:20:00] Speaker B: What about. What about. What about Rogers and musical Rogers?
[00:20:03] Speaker A: You know, I would love that. I would love that as a replacement for, like, sees the adventure because it's only like a 30 minutes show. I absolutely loved Rogers the musical, but I'm. I'm not. I'm not predicting that. I wish I were. I really don't think it will be, but I think main stage show, I think we're looking at. I think really do think we're looking at Lion King or Hercules. I would put money on both of those. I just don't know which one, to be perfectly honest.
[00:20:30] Speaker C: That Roger show is coming back somewhere, though.
[00:20:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I hope so. Awesome.
[00:20:35] Speaker C: It was too.
[00:20:36] Speaker A: Awesome.
[00:20:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree.
[00:20:38] Speaker C: I don't know why awesome.
[00:20:40] Speaker A: I don't know why they closed it at Disneyland. I don't know why they had it for such a short run. They honestly, it would have been so smart to keep that going and going and going and going. And it was awesome. Yeah. Tracy's calling out villains tonight reboot would be awesome as well. I think a lot of people who. A lot of people love that show, and I think a lot of people would be thrilled if Disney brought that back to the stage on DCL.
[00:21:03] Speaker C: So they seem very afraid of villains, though, for some reason. I mean, I get it doesn't have to be what, you know, I was just at universal for a spell this afternoon, and it doesn't have to be dark universe scary. It can be g scary rather than PG or r or whatever scary. You can do it in a way that a Disney way don't you don't have to be. It would be awesome.
[00:21:26] Speaker A: Exactly. Oh. Taryn is saying the Hercules musical is going to England in summer of 2025.
[00:21:32] Speaker C: So group trip.
[00:21:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, my God. So maybe not then coming to Disney cruise line. I don't know, but it's such a great show. I love Hercules. Yeah. I think it would be amazing on Steve.
[00:21:43] Speaker B: Alicia's. Alicia's hoping for a villains bar. I think we talked about.
I am hoping that they do change it up. It's a villains bar. And maybe the haunted mansion. Theming here is going where, like, the Tiana's with not the bayou. That's the wrong ship. But you know what I'm talking about. That lounge that they have on the wish, that's, like, newer or bayou themed.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: That is the bayou.
[00:22:02] Speaker B: Oh, that is the bayou. Okay. French quarter lounge is what I'm thinking of. It is getting confusing. These ships are getting confusing. Now. Maybe they'll do, like, something haunted mansion, where the bayou is today.
I don't know, but it just seems like if they're explicitly calling out that tiki mug design, like, feels like they might just say, well, we're doing haunted mansion bar times, too. So.
[00:22:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, that is. That patch of the mariner is the. Is the same design as the tiki mug. Like, I literally pulled up a picture of the Disney Parks blog, and that's what it looks like as the tiki mug. That's not actually the one that's in the. In the actual haunted mansion. That's like a portrait that looks a little bit different, but that's the tiki mug. Okay, now you want to go.
[00:22:43] Speaker C: None of those people are the tiki mug.
[00:22:45] Speaker A: The tiki mug. These are.
[00:22:47] Speaker B: These are not. I was moving Sam along.
[00:22:52] Speaker C: Very subtle. You were very subtle. Thank you.
[00:22:54] Speaker A: These folks are from the oriental land company in Japan, Brian, are they not?
[00:22:59] Speaker B: They are. So let's shift gears and talk a little bit about Disney Cruise Line's announcement last week. It feels like a month ago now, coming with all the destiny news that came out today. But yes, the oriental land company, which runs Tokyo Disney, has partnered with Disney Cruise Line to bring a fourth wish class ship to Tokyo, Japan. Sail. And it's coming out in, I think it was fiscal year 28, which suggests, like, early 2029.
So it's a ways off. Again, this will feed into my speculation about d 23 here in a minute, but it is interesting that they push this announcement out in 2024. It felt like something they could have kept under wraps until they launched the adventure, but they have made the announcement.
[00:23:44] Speaker A: What is an order? Right. They had to make an order with a ship company.
[00:23:49] Speaker B: Well, yeah, we'll get to that in a second. You're jumping the gun, Sam. Let's talk about Tokyo. Focus on Tokyo.
[00:23:55] Speaker A: No, that's what I'm saying. Okay.
[00:23:57] Speaker B: All right, so this is coming in 2029. What is unique about this is that it is really unclear how this is going to work, because the Oriental Land Company is going to own and operate this ship in partnership with Disney Cruise Line. It almost sounds like from the announcements it's that Disney Cruise Line has licensed its branding over to the Oriental Land Company to do this. I have lots of thoughts here, but I want to kick it to Chris for a second. Chris, you saw this announcement. What went through your mind?
[00:24:33] Speaker C: I think it speaks as to how well the relationship must be, because it sounds like a similar relationship with Tokyo Disney and Tokyo Disneysea, which, which from, I haven't been, unfortunately, but from most of the people that I hear who have been Tokyo DisneySea, one of the best Disney parks out there.
So it must speak well to how well that relationship is going and apparently profitable for both sides. So hopefully it'll spell something really, really awesome. I've been wanting for. I've never been to the Asia part of the world, and I would really love to get there and a Disney ship over there, although as a travel agent, I selfishly can't book Tokyo Disney. So I would love a book, one that I could actually book. But. But still, it gives me a way to get over there that gives me a Disney link.
[00:25:30] Speaker A: So, yeah, Chris, I think we need to plan a trip. I'm talking, I don't know, spring break 2029 or summer 2029, and plan on going because, I mean, we still, we keep talking about how we want to get to Tokyo Disneyland, right. To Disney, Tokyo Disneysea in particular, because we heard how great it is. Well, now DCL just gave us an additional reason to.
[00:25:53] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[00:25:54] Speaker A: To Tokyo or to Japan in general. So I've never been to Asia either, and so this gives me reason.
[00:26:02] Speaker B: DCL duo podcast Trip Land and Sea Vacation 2029.
[00:26:05] Speaker A: 2029. That'll be our third, maybe our third inaugural trip. Anyway, I did.
[00:26:12] Speaker C: I have to say, I'm so not excited about the adventure because I think that is so ugly.
[00:26:18] Speaker A: No, you can say that. You can say that.
[00:26:20] Speaker C: Listen, it's just not an attractive ship, but I have a good friend who lives in Singapore, so I have to do it at some point.
[00:26:27] Speaker B: Hold on, hold on. I want to ask a serious question. Of both of you. Because what really strikes me about this announcement is they have announced a second ship in Asia before they've launched their first ship in Asia.
[00:26:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:39] Speaker B: They have no market experience in Asia yet.
I mean, Tokyo Disney knows what they're doing with theme parks. I don't want to knock that, but it's not like they've operated a cruise ship over there before. It strikes me as a little odd to make this announcement this far in advance of the adventure before she's even set sail. And they have some idea of what the market is like for them over there. But more importantly, it's also a little odd to me. They've got this new. You've got the adventure. Launching this ship has got to be be direct competition to the adventure being operated by Tokyo Disney. So it feels like they're cannibalizing the market before they've even set foot in it. I don't know. What do you guys think?
[00:27:19] Speaker C: I will say that this is a US bias. The flight from Singapore to Tokyo is 6 hours. It's not. I mean, that's like saying the west coast is cannibalizing.
It's a different market. It's not the same. We think of it all as, okay, they all just go, right, but they're. They're not. It's not the same market. It's not the same space.
[00:27:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:43] Speaker C: Disneyland doesn't cannibalize from Disney World. It's different markets.
[00:27:48] Speaker A: And Singapore has a very large english speaking population. I mean, that's a main business hub. And I see. I agree with you, Chris. I think these two could be two different markets. And I'm sure that Disney has done its research to figure out if there's demand there. But it is interesting to see.
[00:28:09] Speaker B: Yeah. CT saying a second asian ship because Tokyo found out that the ship's not going there. And then it's a perfectly valid point. There are billions of people in Asia. It's a different. It's a different market. I agree. I agree. It's a different market.
[00:28:22] Speaker A: Very different ships.
[00:28:24] Speaker C: The big question to me is, is there going to be a casino on board?
[00:28:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:29] Speaker B: And I actually.
[00:28:32] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't think. I think the adventure will have a. I don't know about the new one, but I think there will be a casino on adventure.
[00:28:41] Speaker B: I think the opposite. I think there is no casino plan for the adventure. I think that giving this over to the oriental land company gives them the ability to say, well, we're putting a casino on our ship to customize it differently than how they're customizing the adventure.
That's my prediction. We'll find out.
[00:29:00] Speaker C: I have a very good friend of mine who lives in Singapore, and the first thing he, I sent him the announcement when I, they said they were going to Singapore. And he says, does Disney have casinos on board? And I said, not usually. He goes, if they don't have a casino on board, it won't be successful here.
[00:29:15] Speaker A: Wow. Interesting.
[00:29:16] Speaker C: So I think, I think it has a casino or they're in trouble.
[00:29:20] Speaker A: Interesting. Well, I want to answer one question we had, which is somebody was asking whether or not it's Triton class, the ship in Japan. I would have just correct one. The question first.
[00:29:29] Speaker B: The answer is no, it is not Triton.
[00:29:31] Speaker A: Right. The answer is it's wish class. So I know Triton was the project name for the, and so when the wish came out, the class became the wish class, just like with the dream and with the magic. The class is named after the first ship in the class. Yes, it was all project Triton. So yes, it will be a sister ship. This Japan ship will be a sister sip of the wish.
[00:29:54] Speaker B: And yes, remember that they're both authorities.
[00:29:56] Speaker C: So they're going to watch your every word.
[00:29:58] Speaker B: That's right. I want to say this. Yes, I agree it would be cooler if it was called the Triton glass, but it's, we have actually, we've actually verified this across multiple sources within Disney.
[00:30:09] Speaker C: And by the way, the Disney Triton would be a lot cooler than the Disney Destiny.
[00:30:14] Speaker A: Yeah, that's cool. That would be Disney Triton would be a cool name, actually. Absolutely.
[00:30:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:19] Speaker B: All right. All right.
[00:30:21] Speaker A: Okay. But let me, let me say one thing here. I think the reason that they announced the Disney ship with Oriental Land Company is because they've got a ship on order and because they know that once they have an order, these things are going to become.
[00:30:35] Speaker C: Yeah. It becomes, it gets out there in some form or fashion.
[00:30:38] Speaker A: Yes. That's why I think so far in.
[00:30:41] Speaker B: Advance, and it may have leaked because we know, I can't remember if we've talked about this on the show before. We know because some folks have sent us some articles that Mayor Wharf, Papenburg, where they're building all of these ships except for the adventure. The adventure is at a Meyer wharf shipyard, but a different Meyerworth shipyard. Mayor Wherf Papenburg is actually in some significant financial distress, not because they don't have a very strong book of orders for cruise ships, but because of the rising cost of labor and materials. And so theyre looking for, like, I think it was a $2.7 billion investment from the region where they operate to sort of keep operating. Look, I want to say it seems like they fully expect to get that investment or that a bailout of some sort to continue operating, but this was probably an opportune time for Disney to put in an order because Papenberg needs as many orders as it can get to keep, keep the, you know, the books on the right side of things. So, um, yeah, which leads to I.
[00:31:41] Speaker C: Need a two and a half billion dollar investment as well, by the way, if anyone wants to write me a check, I'm happy to take it.
[00:31:47] Speaker A: Well. And, you know, you might get something at, you might get a ship at a better cost when they're in a, you know, not in a strong financial position. So which brings us to the next announcement, Brian, or lack of announcement, but.
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[00:32:59] Speaker A: All right, what do we see in the picture?
[00:33:01] Speaker B: I'm going to set this up. So this is the graphic that they put out for Disney Horizons, which is what they're calling the 90 minutes presentation they're going to give at D 23 this year.
I've now read online they will be streaming this presentation so we can all watch it together, which is great. I think maybe this might be perfect.
[00:33:20] Speaker C: For you guys on the west coast. For those of us on the east coast, we're going to be popping those Red Bull.
[00:33:26] Speaker B: Well, this may be the opportune time.
[00:33:29] Speaker A: What evening is this going to be?
[00:33:31] Speaker B: I'll have to look at that at.
[00:33:32] Speaker C: Like 08:00 or something.
[00:33:34] Speaker A: It's late.
[00:33:34] Speaker C: Okay, your time. So it's like 11:00 my time.
[00:33:40] Speaker B: So this could be an opportune time, Sam, for us to revive the mystery science 3000 episode that everyone has been wanting us to redo since the one we did three years ago. So we may have a little mystery science theater 3000 DCL duo watch party for the horizons announcements.
[00:33:57] Speaker A: The date. Do we even know? Are we even free then? Brian?
[00:34:01] Speaker B: Yeah, it's August. What is it? It's on August.
Yeah. Saturday, August 10 at 08:00 p.m. oh.
[00:34:08] Speaker A: Yes. It's 07:00 p.m. and our calendar is actually already blocked off, everyone, so.
[00:34:13] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. There you go. All right, so I want to set this up. So this is the graphic.
[00:34:17] Speaker C: I'll be on the wonder up in Alaska, by the way.
[00:34:20] Speaker A: Awesome.
[00:34:21] Speaker B: So this is the graphic. Notably, it contains six castles denoting the six theme parks for Disney. It has a little reference to California adventure reinforcing. Let me step back. We think that this announcement horizons is going to heavily focus on what Disney plans to invest that $60 billion they committed to spending over the next ten years into. So we know, for example, that Disneyland forward has now been approved to the city of Anaheim. We're expecting some timelines and details for what that means for the Disneyland parks. And so it's telling that California adventures, Ferris Wheel and Castle are on here. It's also telling that there's all of the other castles represented because we expect some of this money to get invested across these theme parks. Now, what's also represented on here are two ships sailing, not one ship for just Disney cruise line line, two ships sailing. And they've already announced the Jap Japan ship. They've already announced the theming and they're going to reveal the Destiny in advance. We don't know a lot about the adventure, but I'm going to tell you, I don't think they're going to make an announcement at D 23 about the adventure.
[00:35:34] Speaker A: They don't like the adventure.
[00:35:38] Speaker B: Saying that. I don't think that that's what they're. I don't think the details at that level, Sam. But. But I don't think they're going to announce the adventure at D 23 for a very particular reason. They don't care if North Americans ever set foot on the Disney adventure. What they want is the asian market for the Disney adventure. And they've been rolling out information steadily in the asian market that we've been picking up on here in the US. But I suspect you will see a dedicated announcement about the adventure in Singapore and a special event in Singapore, much like they did an announcement for the Japan ship in Tokyo. Right.
[00:36:12] Speaker C: And so tells me it's all over the subways.
It's hard to escape it.
[00:36:17] Speaker B: So here's what I think is going to happen, and then I will open it up to the esteemed panel to tell me I'm wrong or to give their own opinions. But as I said earlier, I think, one, this is a high stakes 90 minutes, and I think, to Chris's point, it's going to focus very heavily on the parks. There's no doubt about that. That said, we know some of the $60 billion is getting invested into Disney Cruise line that's been specifically said. I think this whole presentation is going to be talking about that $60 billion. I think what qualifies to get into this level of presentation is not like a new paint job on a ride. It's a new ride. It's dates for opening a new ride or a new land or whatever it is.
Yeah, exactly.
I think that there will be cruise line announcements. I think they put in an order for not just one ship. I think they put in an order for three ships with Mayor Wirf Papenberg. And the reason that they announced the Tokyo one is because it's going to come out sooner or later that that order was made. I think that they announced it for 2029 because they're going to have two new ships coming online in 2027 and 2028. And I suspect to the comment that someone raised earlier in these threads, those are the replacements for the magic and the wonder, who are reaching end of life. I'm sure that they will have an amazing farewell tour, and we will definitely be on at least the wonder for farewell sailing. But it's time, and I think now is the time. Disney saves a lot of money when they bundle orders with the shipyard. That's why they did the wish class initially in three. So that's my prediction. You're going to see at least an announcement of two more ships coming. Now, whether it's two wish class ships or something else else, I don't know. Uh, but I think two more ships coming. That's. That's it. That's it from Brian. And now you. You guys can talk all you want, and I'm going to sit here and take notes.
[00:38:13] Speaker A: All right, Chris, I got to. I'm going to throw it to Chris because Brian and I've talked about this a little bit already.
[00:38:18] Speaker C: Well, we haven't heard it. You go first.
[00:38:21] Speaker A: Well, I agree with Brian. I think we're going to see two new ships have been ordered. I think that's why they announced. I mean, I was. I didn't say this in the earlier, you know, spot where we were talking about the oriental land company, but I think they're going to announce these because they're going to leak otherwise. They have ordered, in my opinion, three new ships. Right. They might all be wish class ships or they. These two might be different, but I think they've ordered three new ships, and that's what we're going to hear at the D 23 panel. They're not. I agree with Brian. They're not going to talk much about the OLC ship because that's really Olc's to advertise. And they're not going to talk that much about. They might reveal something about the adventure at D 23, but I don't think that's going to be the focus.
I think if they were going to talk about the adventure, we would see just one ship graphic. And I will be honest and tell you, these ships, to me, don't look like the adventure. These ships look more like magic, wonder, dream, fantasy, or even wish class ships. Like, just the shape. I know, I know. They might not get into the minutiae of the detail, but the adventure just looks so different from the others and has multiple funnels. Right. And is ugly. And I agree with you, Chris.
[00:39:36] Speaker B: Let's zoom in and see if we can find a tower suite in there.
[00:39:41] Speaker A: I mean, I agree.
[00:39:42] Speaker C: All of them want tower suites by the end of it.
[00:39:45] Speaker A: Right. We're not seeing, like, a high level of detail, but I still think with the detail that we do see, that doesn't look like an adventure ship. We're not going to have a sister ship of the adventure anyway. That's a one off. I truly believe that. But, yeah, I think we're going to see two new ships. I'm hoping to. I'm going to say, my prediction is we're going to see two new ships that are not going to be wish class, that are going to be smaller than wish class. I'm not sure they're going to be, you know, magic class. Wonder. Magic wonder class. But I think we're going to see smaller than wish class.
[00:40:18] Speaker B: So. So Josh was asking more wish class. I mean, it would make the most sense if they had ordered three of the same kind of ship. But who knows? Who knows? And I do think Disney needs to be responsive to the fact that people love, like, the smaller ships. I mean, which is borne out also in. There's got a comment here, I hope not wish class, but I'm prepared for disappointment. Love the smaller. But, I mean, we love the smaller boats, too. And then I think it's magically Vanessa here who's saying, I think the replacements for magic wonder will be just a smidge smaller than the dream class. So we have seen some royal, who.
[00:40:50] Speaker A: I think is Nathan from adventures and mascapades. Yeah.
[00:40:53] Speaker B: Yes, we have seen. We have seen. It makes sense. And, too, Nathan, we know his last name against that.
We also know that, like, Royal has gone back. They went back and built a couple of Oasis class ships instead of continuing to build icon. I mean, they're building more icon class, but they've made another order for more oasis class. So. So, yeah, it could be smaller. Chris, we got to hear from you, though. We got to tell us. Tell us what you think.
[00:41:18] Speaker C: Pour water.
[00:41:19] Speaker B: Pour water on all of this and just calm us down.
[00:41:22] Speaker C: Surprise me. You know, as a big lover of Disney cruise line, I'm thrilled. See them making investments. I'm glad that people like it because I love it. It's my happy place is being on one of those ships, and my brain immediately goes to, okay, where do they go? And I keep hearing, and I have a lot of clients, frankly, who would love more west coast cruises, and I think those should and would be more helpful to be. Oh, there you go, Linda. You're exactly right. There need to be more west coast cruising and people love it and have a real hub in San Diego and then connect San Diego with Disneyland and make that kind of connection that you have at Port Canaveral. It's not that much farther between Port Canaveral and on Disney World as it is from Disneyland to San Diego.
[00:42:26] Speaker A: Yeah, it's about an hour both. Yeah.
[00:42:28] Speaker C: So make that connection where people can do, like, a week. You know, they've been wanting to do that in Disneyland. Do that where you can do, you know, three days at Disneyland and a three day cruise and have a six day trip or something like that. It'd be lovely. Yeah. So it would be. It would be awesome. I've never sailed out of San Diego, and I swung to so badly.
[00:42:48] Speaker B: So, yeah.
Our friend, our friend Craig is saying Royal announced they are building a smaller class next. So the demand is hopefully there. I agree.
I think diversifying the fleet is going to be important. I think it's also going to become increasingly important from a business standpoint because ports are blocking these larger and larger cruise ships. And so if you want to get to some of these destinations, you can't be the largest player on the ocean seas. You got to have some.
[00:43:13] Speaker C: I mean, even the wish class are not the larger players. Right. The wish class are small compared to those oasis, but you still want ships.
[00:43:21] Speaker A: That you can take through the canal and you want ships that you can take up to Alaska and to some of these other smaller ports. So there definitely is a need for.
[00:43:30] Speaker C: Let'S not race by the fact that we are all basically kind of assuming that the wonder and the magic are going to be retired soon. And I think for all of us, those were our first Disney ships. They were. And I mean, even when we were on the podcast cruise, the magic is almost 30 years old and it is.
[00:43:55] Speaker B: Still looks pretty good.
[00:43:56] Speaker C: Yeah, it is beautiful. I mean, you know, I see it next to some of the other cruise lines that I won't mention. And it is in phenomenal shape and it's a lovely experience. And I will be very sad to see both of those ships go away.
[00:44:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:13] Speaker C: You know, which I think we're all kind of assuming is going to happen at least in the next couple years. Right.
[00:44:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:19] Speaker B: But they're lovely.
[00:44:20] Speaker C: They've been, they've served their purpose. Wow.
[00:44:23] Speaker B: If they, if they retire them, if they retire them in 2028, they'll be 30 years old. And that's, I mean, it's long. I don't know. Yeah, it's, a, and, and you start to hit these problems of they got to be dry docked more often every couple of years.
[00:44:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:38] Speaker B: They're not as fuel efficient any longer. They're all sort of stuff like it, it, I mean, I could see them actually parking a magic or a wonder on the west coast and just having it do kind of like west coast sailings. Like Queen Mary. Yeah.
[00:44:51] Speaker C: Just to have it. You can go and have dinner on the, you know, like the Queen Mary in, in Long beach or something.
[00:44:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:59] Speaker A: I love it. I love it. That all sounds great to me. Yeah. One, one thing Gabe commented on, I thought the thing with the Japan ship is that OLC ordered it and not Disney, but I could be wrong. So it's a partnership and OLC is going to, to own and operate it, but it is a partnership with Disney and Disney Cruise line. And so you'll see, Disney Cruise line will, will train everybody on ship operations and sort of everything on board. So they won't, they'll, they won't have full control over it, but there will be a partnership because obviously it's a licensing agreement. But they're going to want to make sure that the ship is run, doesn't necessarily have to be identical to how Disney Cruise line runs the other shifts, but it's going to be, I would guess, very similar. And we don't know if you're, if we don't know about castaway club status and things like that, if there will be crossover. And for books, what I've heard from.
[00:45:53] Speaker C: Tokyo Disney parks, they're run at meticulous levels. I mean, meticulous levels. I mean, really, really top notch.
[00:46:03] Speaker A: So, yeah, and I imagine this will be the same. And they have taken, you know, some of the best stuff from Walt Disney World and Disneyland and brought it over there. And so I'm sure that that will be the same as far as how, you know, getting great cast, getting great, you know, protocols in place and operations in place. And, and probably the ship crew will be, you know, similarly mostly european crew. That's what, you know, most of the, we get a lot of Greeks and Italians who are, you know, basically work as the ship crew. I mean, not necessarily the dining crew and all of that. So it'll be interesting to see how that all translates. But it'll probably be a very bilingual crew and that at least the dining staff and all of those folks and the guest services will have to speak Japanese and probably English.
[00:46:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Some good comments here. CT saying there should be land and sea options for all the parks. Amen. Amen. I think that was kind of the original vision with Disney Cruise line, is you'd have a cruise ship tied to each park almost. So maybe we'll finally get there.
Larry saying Diesel is going to be banned outright for some popular places, and I don't even think they can store power in New York City, which is. Yeah, so, yeah, I mean, we can't gloss over, these ships are old. They're getting old. They're well beyond the age that many cruise lines would have already sold them down market. And frankly, I just think Disney can't. Disney can't sell them down market because.
[00:47:33] Speaker C: They'Re Disney cruise ship. Not look like a Disney cruise ship. Right.
[00:47:37] Speaker A: Exactly. Exactly.
[00:47:39] Speaker B: And then I love this because, so Chris is saying I'm just waiting for the world of Disney cruise visits all of the parks worldwide.
I think, honestly.
[00:47:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:50] Speaker B: I mean, I would be on it in a heartbeat. But I think, honestly, what an amazing send off. They could give to the wonder or the magic if they had them do, do a final world cruise kind of around the world, you know, and then unfortunately they would drive it into a beach someplace in India. But, you know, I think what an amazing final.
[00:48:10] Speaker A: Or they can each do a half of world cruise, right? Magic could do one half the world and wonder could do the other half of the world or something and meet.
[00:48:17] Speaker B: Up on the naval training ground yards for torpedo practice. But yes, but yes.
There you go. And then CT is also saying, saying, uh, reimagine magic class ships are going to be easy because they can just kind of port over the theming. I actually, this is one place where I do hope that they, they do just take an easy route if they're going to do this. Import some of the theming over because the Tiana's restaurant is fantastic. I love it.
[00:48:41] Speaker A: I love tangled. Yeah. Rapunzel's royal table.
[00:48:44] Speaker B: I'd love to see them. I'd love to see them reimagine maybe the, the Cadillac lounge. Like, what would that look like today? Just please. PS Disney, not the Tesla lounge. If we can avoid it. Uh, but you know, but I was.
[00:48:55] Speaker C: The truck, the cyber truck they can put.
[00:49:02] Speaker A: We see one of those in our neighborhood all the time and I groan every time I see it. It's the ugliest thing.
It really is. Sorry, if any of you listening out there, that's a hot take. If you ever, if you come onto rapid fire and you tell me you have a cyber truck, you're gonna fail.
[00:49:18] Speaker C: Rapid fire, you're voted off the island.
[00:49:22] Speaker B: CT says it should be the Escalade. Lounge. I love it.
[00:49:25] Speaker A: Lounge, I like it. Every, every tape will have spinners on the bottom.
And I like Larry Fine's comment, magic class, but lng or nuclear with azipods and real big stabilizers. Yeah, we. This is, see, we want to put the new technology on the old style of ship. I love that.
[00:49:46] Speaker B: I don't need goofy near a nuclear power plant. That's all I'm asking.
[00:49:51] Speaker A: It's like him with his skiing and stuff.
[00:49:53] Speaker C: The flux capacitor or something from back to the future.
[00:49:58] Speaker A: Yeah. We just have to get to 88 miles an hour, right?
[00:50:01] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:50:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, that's, that's the speculation we have for D 23. I don't think there's going to be like some, you know, ton of announcements. I think if they announce anything, it will. It will be these. It will be, it will be one of three things. Either nothing at all, because it's going to be all parks focused. I want to be realistic. That could be what they do.
They could just have a quick announcement of a stern and atrium character for the adventure. But again, I just, you seems unlikely to me and kind of come kind of unworthy of the 90 minutes and how they need to spend the time. So I think one quick hit to Disney Cruise line to say we've put two ships on order. They're coming out in 2028 and or 2027, 2028. More details to come. That is a huge piece of news. And it takes them a minute or less to get it out the door. And so I just. It's a question I have for D.
[00:50:54] Speaker C: 23 is if they ever mention the term blue skyd.
[00:51:00] Speaker B: The drinking game. The drinking game.
[00:51:04] Speaker A: We'll have to.
[00:51:04] Speaker C: If Josh mentions blue sky, he's voted off the island.
[00:51:08] Speaker A: Chris, Chris, you'll be on. You'll be in Alaska at the time. So we're going to text you while we're watching and let you know if he says blue sky, because if he says blue sky, you're going to have.
[00:51:17] Speaker C: To jump it off the ship.
[00:51:21] Speaker A: You're going to come out, you're going to have to run to. I don't know, you're going to be on the wonder, right? So you're going to have to run to french quarter lounge and get yourself a shot. If you.
[00:51:30] Speaker C: If he mentions it, I will definitely post a photo with one of my Disney shirts on.
[00:51:35] Speaker A: I would expect nothing less.
[00:51:37] Speaker B: I wanted to wrap things up tonight with just a quick report on lookout key.
[00:51:45] Speaker A: Good call.
[00:51:45] Speaker B: We've had two trip reports roll in this week from two different listeners. I want to first report a positive. The flies are gone.
Everyone we're hearing from was like, I don't have any flies in my table. So the fly problem under control. What is not.
[00:52:01] Speaker C: I will say I had a client last week who was on there and. And said no flight problem.
[00:52:06] Speaker B: So nice, nice. What is not quite under control and is getting a little frustrating on my side of things from my point of view. A couple of reports this week about some things on the disability front that are just not great, not okay for Disney. So first of all, we had a listener who visited recently whose son is mobility challenge and learn that they, in fact, have zero sand wheelchairs on the island currently and don't expect to have them until October, which is ridiculous.
[00:52:37] Speaker A: I mean, they have so many of them at Castaway Key, all they would need to do is grab like, half the ones they have at Castaway and bring them to look out key. They're not that far away from one another. It would be an easy transport by boat. And honestly, like, they always have way too many at castaway. There is no reason why they can't get some on lookout. That's just ridiculous.
[00:52:57] Speaker B: That's. Yeah. Disney. Please do better on this. Like the. We have. We have played up how gorgeous. And I know Chris agrees with me, the beaches are gorgeous. And so to have someone with a mobility disability not be able to experience those beaches, I think, cuts the legs out of the experience of lookout key. Like, the, the cultural stuff is nice. And I will say that the guest who, who made this report made lemons out of lemonade for the day and had some great experiences on lookout with.
[00:53:28] Speaker A: And she's. And she mentioned in the comments that they have a great adult changing station near guest services. So we appreciate you sharing.
[00:53:36] Speaker B: I would say no lemonade making should need to be had for the disability community on lookout key. You've already covered this. Yeah. The first thing that should have been ordered were these chairs. But if they weren't, then to Sam's point, take half of them, throw them on a ship and get them over there. So that's number one. Number two is we got a trip report in our Facebook group today from a listener who visited lookout key this past week, and the golf cart situation is ever evolving.
So we asked multiple times on the ship when we went whether they were prioritizing concierge guests for the golf cart and were repeatedly told no. And I want to be clear, I'm 100% fine with that answer because they should prioritize people with disabilities getting to the tram stop over me getting to my cabana. I just do not care that much. I will walk the pierde for those who need the help, they should get the help. We learned this time around that they have sort of flip flopped on that and are now prioritizing, now prioritizing guests to get golf carts to cabanas. Because what we heard was the, the line was, they've paid for the service. No, they haven't. You don't offer that service on, on, on castaway unless there's a need. Like, we don't get driven to our cabanas at the family beach or Serenity Bay on Castaway Way. And we've asked about it just out of curiosity. I'm fine walking, by the way. Um, but, like, just prior in this moment with that peer, prioritize getting the disability community onto your island to enjoy their day and, like, let the able bodied who just don't want to break a sweat. Like, I'm sorry, I'm one of them.
[00:55:17] Speaker A: Or make them wait. Or make them wait. That's right. You can if you don't want to walk, and if you're able bodied and you don't want to walk, then you should have to wait. Like, I have no problem with that, so. But we've got another comment from Vanessa. She's the one who reported to us about the sand wheelchairs, and she actually has said the explanation is that the sand wheelchairs they ordered were discontinued. But they're looking at an even better option. And I think that's great.
[00:55:42] Speaker B: Good to hear.
[00:55:43] Speaker A: But the answer is they should have taken some from castaway in the meantime. So that both places, because like I said, I always see more than enough at castaway. There's a ton, which I think is an awesome thing that they have them, but they have way more than they need at caste away. So I think there's no reason why they shouldn't bring some over to look out.
[00:56:03] Speaker B: And to be fair, the guests who reported the golf cart issue mentioned that far too much ink is spilled over this pier in these golf carts. We had an amazing time on the island. That's great.
[00:56:14] Speaker A: Two year old mother was hanging out in the water with her cane and loved it. You had an amazing time.
[00:56:20] Speaker B: I agree with it. Yeah. Go ahead, Chris.
[00:56:22] Speaker C: It's funny, I was talking with people today about lookout, and I was the. I don't know what the sand is made of, but like it is, you don't have to walk. It's not hot. It's not. You're not doing that. Ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch. To get to the water. It is delightful. It is so special. That beach is lovely.
[00:56:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:56:43] Speaker C: Happy to be there any day of the week.
[00:56:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Those wooden boardwalks, though, those get.
Wear your flip flops.
[00:56:52] Speaker C: To wear your flip flops or whatever.
[00:56:54] Speaker A: To the sand and then take off your flip flops at the sandheen.
[00:56:58] Speaker B: Anyway, so anyway, we just wanted to bring that information. Anyone who comes on the show is going to look out. We're going to ask these kinds of questions because we want to hear the good, the bad, and the otherwise it's going on at lookout. And we also just think it's important for people to know what to expect when they get there. And so just want to let people know what to expect. The golf cart situation seems to be shifting day to day from our understanding. I really do hope Disney will prioritize getting people who need a car. I don't want to limit to disabled. Disability. The disability community. Right. The folks who are older who just don't walk as well or don't want to walk down the page, they should get priority. Me, a 46 year old able bodied man, I should walk or I should wait. I don't care what if I have a cabana or not. Like, that's just. That's. That's the right thing. And. And I will say this. The guest, the listener, did report that there were several folks who were waiting for golf carts and concierge, and what they were doing. Doing was taking unused seats in those carts and putting, you know, people in them. And several of the guests and concierge vacated their seats to say, you know, I don't need this. You need it more than I do. Take my seat. Thank you for doing that. That is absolutely the right thing to do in those situations. So thank you for making the world a better place.
[00:58:11] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:58:11] Speaker A: Exactly. Exactly.
[00:58:13] Speaker B: Yeah. All right. Well, with that. Yes, with that, Chris, we always love talking to you, so let folks know where they can find you, follow you, connect with you.
[00:58:23] Speaker C: Before I do that, I want to say I got to go on your podcast cruise. And I know it's, what, a month or six weeks? Something like that out?
[00:58:31] Speaker A: About a month. Yeah.
[00:58:33] Speaker C: You guys did such an amazing job and brought together the most lovely group of human beings and all of whom were looking out for other people. And I now have Sarah, who was at our dinner table with us, and her lovely daughter and her equally lovely father. We all got, and we are now, like, long friends. We will be friends forever. We had such a good time. You guys did such an amazing job. It speaks so much for the real community that you have brought together. And I know you've had some nasty people who post on whatever x or twitter or whatever we're calling it nowadays.
You know, just, we all love this stuff, and you guys brought so many of them together, and it was so much fun to be there, and I was ecstatic to be part of it. So thank you so much.
[00:59:28] Speaker A: Thank you so much.
[00:59:28] Speaker B: We love that you are part of it. Yeah.
[00:59:31] Speaker A: And we were so flattered that you joined us for the podcast cruise, Chris. Cause we adore you so much. And, of course, your family as well. And so we're just so thrilled that you were able to come, and we're thrilled for all the folks who did join us on the podcast. Cruz, thank you for spending your vacation time with us. And your precious. Your time is precious. To you. And, you know, we know our vacation time is precious to us and so we really love, you know, that anyone chose to come with us.
[00:59:59] Speaker B: I said it. I said it on the cruise.
[01:00:00] Speaker C: Awesome job. It was so much fun. I mean, really kudos to you. And I know it's so much work and so much stress that goes into it. And so really, really proud of, really, really thrilled.
[01:00:11] Speaker B: I said on the cruise several times. Humbling is the only word I have to describe when 50 people show up, up to, to take a vacation. That is just humbling. I do want to put on people's radars. Uh, we've hinted at this, we're still working through. It's going to be a while before we have any details, but just put a big circle around your summer for 2026 because we are going to do another podcast adventure. I'm going to call it that because we are looking at probably going to Europe and maybe doing a river cruise with adventures by Disney to introduce people to that product. So we know that that may not be doable for everyone. We understand that, uh, we will kind of probably flip flop through these over the years, depending on how long our podcast continues. Flip flop forever.
[01:00:56] Speaker A: Forever and ever.
[01:00:57] Speaker C: And you're not going anywhere. What do you mean exactly?
[01:01:01] Speaker B: But we're probably going to flip flop and do something more accessible kind of every other year and then something that we really want to do, something fun, something unique in the off year. So mark your calendars now, DCl duo. We're going to do something. We think it's going to be an ABD. They just don't have the itineraries out yet. But we're working that angle right now.
[01:01:19] Speaker A: Right. But Chris, you need to tell folks where they can find you, connect with you, and if they want to book their next vacation with you.
[01:01:26] Speaker C: So I am a. I am a travel agent. I know you guys. My path and winding does an amazing job. I booked with my path unwinding for the podcast tour and I was very impressed with the job they did. If you want to book with me, I am. You can see below, it's yensid travel. I'm a travel agent with dreams unlimited travel. You can find me at Yensid travel, which is Disney spelled backwards. It's the sorcerer. And sorcerer's apprentice is yen sid. So yensid travel is my little space on the world, and I'd love to help you plan a magical trip.
[01:01:58] Speaker B: So I keep meaning to send you. I've gotten, as everyone, all of our listeners know, I've gotten really into lorcana. And I have, there's a yensid card in Lorcana and I keep meaning to, like, put one in a little sleeve and send it to you so you can have it.
[01:02:09] Speaker C: If you have an extra, send it to me. I will have it framed.
[01:02:13] Speaker A: I will send you one.
[01:02:14] Speaker B: I will definitely send you one. Well, with that, Chris, thank you. Thank you for stepping in last minute, taking some time out of your own vacation to spend some time with us and our audience.
[01:02:24] Speaker C: I rearranged furniture here, too, so I could get before, my face was so dark, so I had to bring lamps in here and stuff. Like, I totally rearranged the furniture in the village.
[01:02:36] Speaker B: All right, and thank you to all of you out there who watched, who hung in with us. Thank you for listening. If you're listening to this afterwards, please don't forget to hit that, like, and subscribe button over on YouTube. Please don't forget to leave us five star review if you enjoy these conversations. They really keep us going. We say all the time, we don't make money on this show. And so the thing that keeps us.
[01:02:57] Speaker A: We do it for the sweet, sweet five star reviews.
[01:03:00] Speaker B: We do. We do. So, all right with that, everyone, thank you out there for listening, for watching. Thanks to Chris for joining us. And we will see you.
[01:03:08] Speaker A: We'll see you at a half hour earlier next time, though, right? Special time instead of at 538 30. We're going to be at 05:00 p.m. pacific. 08:00 p.m.
eastern. And that's to accommodate our guests who can't be up really late because they've got like a really, a job that makes them get up really early in the morning. So anyway, so we'll be on at 08:00 p.m. next week instead of our normal 830. If we're talking west coast instead of 530, we're going to be talking to Leah Shelton, who is daughter of Karen Shelton, owner of my path unwinding travel. And we're actually going to be talking to you about the new ship on Royal Caribbean, the utopia of the seas. And so we'll be doing a little bit of compare, contrast, of course, with Disney, but we're going to be talking about the new utopia ship because she is a new Oasis class ship in Royal Caribbean's repertoire. I don't know what's fleet?
[01:04:06] Speaker B: Fleet.
[01:04:06] Speaker A: Thank you. Fleet of ships. How can I not think of words right now? So, yeah, so join us next week a half hour earlier, which means for those of you on the east coast. We'll get you to bed a half hour earlier than we usually do. Okay? All right. Join us next week. See ya.
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