[00:00:00] Speaker A: All right, Nathan, your bucket list.
[00:00:02] Speaker B: My bucket list is going to be retirement in a one bedroom concierge room.
[00:00:19] Speaker A: Welcome back, everyone, to another bonus episode of the DCl duo podcast, brought to you by my path, unwinding travel. As you can tell, this is Sam. This is not Brian doing the show intro. So, you know, that means I am solo hosting today. Unfortunately, Brian had some stuff come up for work that he needed to take care of, and I had already rescheduled on these guests once, and I did not want to reschedule on them yet again. They are actually local to us in the Seattle area. They. I won't say what company they work at, but they work at the same company that Brian works at. So that's kind of an interesting story as to how we met our guests today, but I want to introduce to the show, first time guests on our show, Nathan and Alicia. Welcome, guys.
[00:01:04] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:01:05] Speaker B: Hello.
[00:01:06] Speaker A: Yeah, it's great to see you guys again, virtually.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: Likewise.
[00:01:10] Speaker A: I will. I'll let our audience know that I met you all a couple of months ago because your employer was putting on a panel about Disney, about Disney vacations for essentially a family employee resource group.
And you all were asked to be panelists. And Brian and I were asked to be panelists, along with another woman who was a former planned Disney panelist.
And so it was really great getting to know you guys through that experience and learning, obviously, that you all have your own podcast. Before we start talking about your podcast, can you give our listeners a little bit of an understanding of your Disney credentials, like, what started the love of Disney in you and in your family? And, of course, we have to ask how many cruises you've been on. So, Alicia, I'm going to start with you.
[00:02:09] Speaker C: Well, I did not grow up going to Disney. I think I went to Disneyland once when I was, I don't know, like, five or six. And then the next time I went to Disney wasn't until 2009. Oh, wow. But I grew up watching the movies, watching the, like, I think it was Sunday night, wonderful World of Disney, or whatever it was called on the tv. That was a big family thing.
And I think love of Disney was always there. But our first big foray into it was a family vacation in 2009, and it was a land and sea package. I don't know if they do those.
[00:02:47] Speaker A: Anymore, but, yeah, they don't do the package anymore, but people can create their own version of the package, basically. Now you have to book them separately.
[00:02:54] Speaker C: But, yeah, and our daughter was four years old at the time. And let me tell you, we were hooked right away. We booked our next cruise before we got off the ship. And it was a short cruise, too. It was like a four night or something like that.
Yeah.
That was our very first cruise. And I think I've had 16 cruises with Disney now. Is that right? He's much better about drinking it.
[00:03:18] Speaker B: 17. No, 610. Four. Yeah, 1616.
[00:03:22] Speaker C: And we have two others planned.
[00:03:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I am, unfortunately minus two on the cruise front, so our daughter and Alicia did a back to back for, I think it was her 13th birthday, and I stayed home with our. Our younger son. And. Yeah. So I am forever in debt to Alicia for making platinum before I did.
They've been to Disneyland, Paris. I haven't. Like, there's some bones to pick in this family.
[00:03:54] Speaker A: Yes.
Sounds like it sounds like. I will tell you, Brian has two cruises ahead of me now as well. One he took with a friend and then the one recently that he did the lighthouse, the lookout key at Lighthouse Point. Preview cruise. Magic. So now he's. Yeah, two ahead of me. He had made pearl before me, I think. Platinum we made. Yeah, platinum we made at the same time. But he made pearl ahead of me. Just one cruise. Well, actually, no, still two cruises ahead of me because the preview was right before I made Pearl. So. Yeah, I'm still bitter about that as well.
[00:04:30] Speaker B: So you get it. You get it.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: I totally do. But I will say I've been to Disneyland Paris, and he hasn't, but it was many, many. It was 20 plus years ago, so I. Yeah, yeah.
[00:04:40] Speaker C: And that was where.
[00:04:41] Speaker A: There was a studio there.
[00:04:42] Speaker C: And, yeah, mine was last summer for our daughter's graduation trip.
[00:04:46] Speaker A: Nice. All right, well, you guys have two kids. Tell our audience, uh, what are your kids ages? Because I think that's always a good information for people to understand, like what, uh, what kinds of stuff they're doing on your Disney vacations.
[00:05:00] Speaker B: Yeah. So our daughter is 19. She's in her just. Actually just finished her first year of college. Our son just finished up 6th grade, and he's, uh, will be 13 here in a month or so.
[00:05:11] Speaker A: Nice, nice. So you've got 118 to 20 society and one on the cusp of edge and vibe right now.
[00:05:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Craziness. Yeah. Well, obviously, I mentioned at the top of the show you all have a podcast called Adventures and Mouse Capades.
I would love to hear why you guys started the podcast, what you think of as your vision, your focus, your voice in the space. Obviously, there's a lot of Disney podcasts. We always say that lots of Disney podcasts. Yeah, I'd love to hear. Nathan, why don't you start?
[00:05:49] Speaker B: Yeah. So we picked this up a couple, two years ago, two and a half years ago now, and we have been blessed to know a bunch of Disney former cast members and some current cast members. And more often than not, Alicia and I are just having these conversations about what if? What do we think about this? What are our thoughts? Getting some insights on what's going on in the wonderful, wonderful world of Disney. And Alicia just kind of said, hey, we should just record these. Like, it would be an interesting podcast for folks to listen to, at least maybe our friends and mom and dad kind of thing. And. Yeah. So it just kind of has gone from there. I always have been interested in, like, I'm a musician, actually. We're a very musical family. I almost went to school for music engineering and decided to get a business degree instead so I could have things like, you know, job in health insurance and.
But, you know, this allowed me to scratch my itch and be able to play with tools and buy microphones and do all sorts of other fun stuff like that. And it's really our passion project, and we kind of focus on Disney experiences, and that can be in the parks, it can be on cruises. We've talked to lots of people who have done various different kinds of trips and abd and all sorts of stuff. We've talked to some cast members, some current former cast members. We got to talk to somebody who is on working the last shift at Splash Mountain in Disneyland when it closed.
We know one of the guys who helped build the fantasia decorations on the stern of the dream.
We just have all of these really cool people that we keep coming across. And, yeah, we just wanted to record those conversations and share some insights, not trying to stay up on top of what's going on in Disney news. There's lots of places out there so much.
[00:07:52] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:07:53] Speaker B: And we're just. We're not that. And so it's more about, you know, we share our experiences, other folks, you know, trip reports and things like that, but also just resources for what's going on. Interesting perspectives on the community. We're DVC owners as well, so we're starting to do kind of an occasional series going through all of the different resorts and what our experiences have been and what you can do there and things like that. And I know folks have found that to be super interesting.
[00:08:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I saw you just put out an episode on Grand Floridian DVC experience, right? We have not. I will tell you I have not stayed. So I'm gonna have to listen to your episode. So I have. I've actually never stayed at the grand Floridian. I've been, you know, we've been to Victoria and Alberts there, and I've been to the resort. Cause I think the lobby is one of the most beautiful places on property. But, yeah, but we have never stayed there. So I don't have that experience to share. But, yeah, I love that. That sounds awesome. Yeah. And I think that is key, though. Covering Disney experiences is very different than keeping up with Disney news and covering the news aspect, because there are, and you mentioned there are lots of resources that are dealing with the news. And frankly, with news stuff, I think print or online, like, you know, always get it first. Right. Because they can always, like, post, like a one line about the news or. And so it's hard. We have a hard time, I'll tell you, keeping up even with news on just Disney cruise line.
[00:09:15] Speaker B: Right.
[00:09:16] Speaker A: Unless the larger, you know, Disney conglomerate or Disney Parks or, you know, other, you know, parts of the brand.
[00:09:23] Speaker B: But yeah, and we all have day jobs, so it's not like we're spending time trying to be like, up to the minute and, you know, getting news drops on everybody else. Like, that's just not gonna happen, so don't try.
[00:09:34] Speaker A: Life is right. Life gets in the way. There are, you know. Yeah, there are like, full time, like, the laughing place is a great example, full time resource, like, completely devoted to, you know, reporting on Disney News and other similar experiences. And so they, one, they, of course, get probably some advanced, you know, notice from Disney on certain things. But they have, yeah, they have all entire staff of people who do that full, that work full time. Shout out to Benji at laughing place. He's an awesome resource, and we've had him on the show and they're, they're really just a great outlet for that kind of stuff. Well, tell me, Alicia, what has been your family's favorite Disney vacation of all the vacations that you've taken Disney, whether that is in the US, abroad, a cruise line, an ABD, like, what, what is for you guys, sort of the quintessential Disney vacation.
[00:10:28] Speaker C: Our favorite one did not involve the kids.
We vacationed with and without the kids. And they are very used to it. We started when they were both super young. Our first vacation without our daughter, she was 18 months old. And we do it like every year. Every two years we do a vacation with and without. I would say this is going to sound really weird, but we did a Panama canal cruise from New Orleans, and it left New Orleans on March 6 of 2020. And, wow, that was actually the best cruise we've ever.
[00:11:04] Speaker A: That was like a week, but, well, it was like a week and a half before the shutdown.
[00:11:07] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:11:07] Speaker B: The shutdown happened the day we were transiting the Panama Canal. Like, the world ended, and we still had a week to go to get up to San Diego. And it was amazing. We ended up having, I think, ten days at sea straight. We never were able to dock in Cartagena in Columbia. They shut the port as we were coming in, and so we had to turn around and go back. It was amazing to see the whole staff and crew and the entertainment and everything. Everybody just completely called in audible, and it was the most magical cruise we've ever had. And we were sailing with two other couples, our really great friends, and we had side by side by side rooms, and we had our veranda open. So we just had this gigantic veranda, and we just had the best time of our lives. It was fantastic. Yeah.
[00:12:07] Speaker C: And nobody got sick on, on the ship. It was like everybody was quarantined for two weeks, so.
[00:12:12] Speaker A: Right, basically. Right. Because all you, the only people you were interacting with were the people on the ship. So unless they contracted at someplace else, it wasn't spreading. Yeah. Now, when you guys, they let you dock in San Diego with no issue then.
[00:12:27] Speaker B: Correct. We were lucky. I think there was a lot of cruise lines that were not. I mean, we heard rumor that there was some cruise line pulled into some random city on the west coast of Mexico and say, everybody off and good luck.
[00:12:41] Speaker A: Oh, God.
[00:12:41] Speaker B: We were the last Disney guests globally. Like, all of the resorts globally, everything was shut down. All the other cruises had ended, and we still had, like, I think, three more days to go, and Disney took care of us, and they let us know what was going on. They were very open about what they knew, what they didn't know.
We got into San Diego a day early, and they were giving people an option to get off the ship if they wanted to early. But once you were off, you're not coming back on, which is fair. And it was interesting. Some people were very like, we want to get out of here. We were like, we've been quarantined, right?
[00:13:16] Speaker A: You're safer on the ship. You're safer on the ship than if you're going out into the world. That point. Right? Because you guys, like you said, you've been essentially quarantined in a bubble, you know, a bubble of several thousand people. But, like, still a bubble, right? That sounds. That sounds like a great. I mean, it sounds like a great vacation. Of course, you know, we have an affinity for an adults only vacation. And as we're recording in about a. Just less than two weeks, Brian and I are going to Disneyland, just the two of us, while our kiddo is away at Sleepaway camp. So I totally get, you know, sometimes the best vacations are kidless vacations, when you just have to worry about your own needs and not worry about being a parent, which is really, really nice. Well, let's talk a little bit about. I know you guys recently took, actually, two cruises.
I want to call it a back to back, but it's not really a back to back cruise. In April of this year, I imagine it was coordinated with spring break for your younger kiddo.
Tell our audience what you decided to do, because I don't want to call it a back to back. And you guys coined a name that I think is perfect. Alicia, why don't you tell. Tell me or our audience what you guys planned for this April spring break.
[00:14:34] Speaker C: We did what we're calling a side to side cruise, and it was over our spring break, we did a cruise on the dream out of Fort lauderdale. And then we also did a cruise on the wish out of port Canaveral. And the reason we chose those two ships was because we had never, ever been on the dream before, and we wanted to get on the dream, and our son really wanted to get on the wish. We had an opportunity to go on the wish before, but one of our party, our daughter got sick, and we were unable to get on the cruise. So we found that out the day we were supposed to get on the wish.
[00:15:17] Speaker B: Oh, no.
[00:15:18] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:15:20] Speaker B: This is when they were doing all that, like, day of testing and stuff.
[00:15:22] Speaker A: Yeah, the day of COVID testing. Yeah. So she got. She had a positive test result, and you all got to. I imagine, actually, this is a great, great information for folks. I mean, this is going back to the COVID era. But Disney took care of you, right? In the sense of, like, they either let you cancel for a refund or let you re get credit for. To rebook at some other date.
[00:15:43] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:15:44] Speaker B: Yeah, we had to rebook ironically. Well, not ironically. We had to rebook that day. Yes.
[00:15:51] Speaker C: It was required to rebook that day.
[00:15:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Which was a little difficult because Alicia called in to handle all that stuff, and they're like, okay, while you're on the phone, you have to choose which date you want to cruise. And if you don't choose it, now or you have to choose something now. And if you need to change it later, then we're going to charge you a change fee, which I thought was.
[00:16:10] Speaker A: That's annoying.
[00:16:11] Speaker C: It was actually a lot, too.
[00:16:12] Speaker A: Yeah, usually probably per person. Right? Like a change.
[00:16:17] Speaker B: Yeah, it was a little stressful. So that was our.
Our wish cruise. Like, our first wish cruise. And so it turned into the four of us being on the wish. I think it was August of the year it launched. So 22. And that converted into just Alicia and I doing a cruise again on the wish. But I think it was, like, in February or April.
[00:16:40] Speaker C: Yeah, just the way. Just the way time worked out. It actually ended up costing us, like, $300 more just for Nathan and I to go on the wish cruise versus four people because of when it happened. Yeah.
[00:16:51] Speaker A: Oh, interesting, interesting. Yeah, yeah.
[00:16:53] Speaker C: So.
[00:16:54] Speaker A: So, okay, so let's. Let's go back to the April cruise for this, or cruises, the side to side cruise, as you called it, Alicia. So you. You all want to go on the dream. Kiddo wants to go on the wish. Why did you guys do these together?
Because you've got to travel between Fort Lauderdale. Well, where did you fly into? Actually, let's start with that. Where did you fly into?
[00:17:16] Speaker C: We flew into Fort Lauderdale.
[00:17:18] Speaker A: Okay. Okay, so you fly into Fort Lauderdale. So you're right there to get on the dream out of Fort Lauderdale. Yes.
You get off the dream. How you. How did you get down to port Canaveral?
[00:17:31] Speaker B: So we rented a car when we got into Fort Lauderdale, and we got in a couple days early. I want to say we actually have a good kind of family friend that moved down that way years and years ago. And so we spent kind of that an intervene day catching up with him and just kind of hanging out and exploring. We hadn't been down there. We'd done a previous cruise of. Actually, it was our first Panama Canal cruise with Disney on the wonder, and it sailed out of Miami. This was back in 2013, but we'd never really explored the rest of south Florida. And I don't know that we really took in all of South Florida, but, you know, we saw more of it than we did that time. So, yeah, we actually parked at the port in Fort Lauderdale and then got right off the ship, off the dream, hopped in the car and took the three hour drive north to Port Canaveral.
[00:18:21] Speaker A: Awesome.
[00:18:22] Speaker C: I'll say. Our son had absolutely no idea what we were doing.
[00:18:27] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Tell us. Tell us about that. How did. What did. What did he. What did he think you were doing before the vacation. And then how did you reveal what was actually happening?
[00:18:39] Speaker C: We very much like to surprise our kids with trips and they love getting surprised too. We've asked them a couple of times, like, is it okay that we do this? And like, oh, yeah, it's fine.
[00:18:47] Speaker A: It's so funny. You would never surprise.
That's like, not. Yeah, we always like, family's different, right? Well, that's the thing. I think it's a great thing that you can do that, like our kid. We need to prepare for, like, what's happening because otherwise he'll, like, he'll be disappointed that he's not like playing online with his friend or that he's not doing what he normally would be doing. Right. So we do a lot of prepping, but this is like something that is unique to, you know, some families you can do it, in, some families you can't do it. So I love this concept, but it's never something I'm ever going to be able to pull off.
Sorry, continue.
[00:19:21] Speaker C: I will say we did get a little disappointment from him that he wasn't able to play online with his friends, but that's okay.
[00:19:29] Speaker A: These are preteen and teenage boys.
[00:19:32] Speaker C: We actually packed for him. He had no idea we were going on a trip until we left that morning super early. I think we had to leave at like five or something.
And where did you tell him you.
[00:19:44] Speaker A: Were going at five in the morning?
[00:19:45] Speaker B: We just said, get up, get in the car, let's go.
[00:19:47] Speaker C: Yeah, we're going somewhere. You gotta come with us. He's good like that.
And usually with our kids, if they guess what we're doing, we'll say, yeah, that's exactly. You got it. That's what we're doing. We decided with this one, even if Sterling guessed it, we would just say it's possible. So if he guessed incorrectly, we would say it's possible. If he guessed correctly, we'd say it's possible. So that was the theme of the trip, basically for the next couple of days.
It was quite funny. He thought it was very amusing. Yeah, we love our son, but he is one of the most unobservant people in the world.
We were at the Fort Lauderdale terminal, which is very nice, by the way. We were literally in the line, like we had dropped our bags off and everything next to that gorgeous, huge mural. And he just didn't see it. He was playing on his phone. He didn't know we were getting on a cruise until we were at the kiosk to check in. And he's like, wait, we're going on a cruz?
[00:20:53] Speaker B: Yeah. All the people with Mickey ears and back. Like, come on, dude.
[00:20:58] Speaker A: That's hilarious. I will tell you, Nathan, my Nathan, would also be that non observant. Like, he. Because he would. His head is always in his phone watching YouTube or whatever. So, like, in the car, he's not usually looking out the window and seeing the, you know, the beautiful Disney magic or the Disney dream and parked at Fort Lauderdale.
[00:21:17] Speaker B: Right.
[00:21:18] Speaker C: So that's. That's exactly what happened. And he was extremely excited that we were going on the dream because none of us have ever been on the dream.
So he has one up on his sister because she's never been on the dream either.
[00:21:31] Speaker A: Oh, there you go. Well, he's gonna hit his grand slam. Or has he hit his grand slam now? Has he hit all five?
[00:21:37] Speaker C: He hasn't been on the magic.
[00:21:39] Speaker A: Okay, so he's. But he's a step closer than big sister.
[00:21:42] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:21:43] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:21:43] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness.
[00:21:44] Speaker C: That's.
[00:21:44] Speaker B: No, actually, Caitlin has been on the magic because that was our very first cruise.
[00:21:48] Speaker A: But she's funny.
[00:21:49] Speaker C: She hasn't been on the wish, so, yeah, I.
[00:21:51] Speaker A: So she's been on three out of five, and he's been on four out of five. Wow. So she. Yeah, just different ones. Wow. That's really. That's. That's. That's certainly unique. So tell me, with the. With the side to side cruise or, uh. So your second cruise, did he know? Did you tell him anything? Did you tell Sterling anything about, you know, you're disembarking and you're going on another cruise? Like, what did.
[00:22:15] Speaker B: No.
[00:22:15] Speaker A: Where did he think you were going? Or did he have any idea where you were going after you disembarked the.
[00:22:20] Speaker B: So he's a smart kiddo. He saw that we were on, like, eventually on I 95, he fell asleep in the car because that's a long drive, and the exit is marked as Port Canaveral one direction and the Orlando airport the other direction. And he's like, oh, we're just going to the airport. And he woke up as we were kind of pulling into the baggage drop off area, and he's like, wait, what?
[00:22:51] Speaker A: He recognized. I take it he recognized the port canaveral because he'd been to Port Canaveral bunch of times before. He recognized the port canaveral baggage drop off. And the terminal is Disney's terminal, so it's the same one every time.
[00:23:03] Speaker B: He completely just, like, lost it. It was pretty amazing.
[00:23:07] Speaker C: There was much squealing and excitement. Yes.
[00:23:10] Speaker A: Did he immediately know that he was going on the wish or did he just know he was going on?
[00:23:15] Speaker B: No, he saw the wish.
[00:23:16] Speaker C: He knew it was the wish. Yeah.
[00:23:17] Speaker B: And then it was really neat because, like, our best friends live. Live down there. And a little bit later, right after embarkation, we decided to go get a family. Petty is what we're gonna call it. All three of us were getting pedicures, and then Alicia and Sterling went off and grabbed some food. I think I needed a manicure and something like that. And I went off and was unpacking in our room, and I got a knock on the door and I went to go answer it, and our best friends were standing in the hall and they surprised us on the cruise. So they're like surprises all around.
[00:23:51] Speaker A: Yes. Oh, my goodness. So Sterling got surprised, and Nathan and Alicia got surprised as well. That is so much fun. Oh, my goodness. It was.
[00:24:01] Speaker C: It was a sleep, a drive, but.
[00:24:03] Speaker A: Well, yeah, how long was it worked out? Well, how long was that drive? And it was. It was the same day. So you disembarked and re embarked on the same, which doesn't always, always work out, obviously, that you can't always make that perfect transition. In fact, we're doing the treasure and then the fantasy in December that we've mentioned on our show before. But we have a day in between. Right. So we'll be. We'll stay down. It's both out of Port Canaveral, so we're actually going to stay down in Cocoa beach for the day, which we have never.
I should say. We have never stayed down there, and I have never experienced going down there. And we're thinking about hitting up the Kennedy space Center because I have not been there before.
[00:24:42] Speaker B: It's amazing. Ended up spending. So we were going to do something similar, the wish cruise that we missed because our daughter got sick. We ended up getting a Vrbo for the week down in Cocoa beach.
[00:24:57] Speaker A: Oh, nice.
[00:24:58] Speaker B: And she never really had any symptoms. And she stayed up in her room and all the rest of that stuff right away. Testing negative.
[00:25:03] Speaker A: Yeah, almost within a really quick bout of it.
[00:25:06] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. And so we had, originally we were going to stay the night and do the wish, stay the night in Cocoa beach and then get on the fantasy and with all of our friends, and we did an eastern Caribbean with them. And so we were still able to make that second cruise, but.
[00:25:21] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[00:25:22] Speaker B: Cocoa beach was amazing. If you haven't been to Kennedy Space center, it's fantastic. Definitely do the bus tour around the place. It's. Yeah, it. I love that. I. Yeah, yeah, we'll get back there. Get back there soon. That my dream is to, like, be on site when they're doing a launch or be on the ship for a launch would be amazing. Haven't quite got that.
[00:25:46] Speaker A: I feel like it happens all the time where there's one scheduled when you're, like, embarking, and then it gets canceled, it gets scrapped. Right. Because the weather has to be, like, a perfect conditions or whatever, or it happens. I remember one time it happened the day after we embarked, and so then you're too far away. You can't see anything if you're not.
[00:26:07] Speaker B: We did see one the week that we were in Cocoa beach. There was a falcon nine that went off, and that was fantastic. And we walked down to the beach and watched that go. And.
But the. What is it? The Artemis one was on the launch pad and was supposed to go while we were down there, and it didn't.
[00:26:26] Speaker C: They delayed it for, like, getting delayed.
[00:26:28] Speaker B: Two and a half months or something like that. And so. But it was really cool to be able to see the, you know, the Artemis from right there was fantastic.
[00:26:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:37] Speaker C: Let me circle back to our side to side real quick.
[00:26:40] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:26:41] Speaker C: So when we were on the dream, we, we didn't do the normal disembarkation where you. Oh, my gosh. I can't think of how it works.
[00:26:50] Speaker A: Right now, where you send your luggage out the night before, and they take your luggage off. You did express walk off.
[00:26:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:26:58] Speaker A: Which, for those who don't know, that means you don't have the ship. Folks take your luggage off. You keep your luggage with you that night, and then that morning, you can leave as early as the ship gets cleared, which is often, like, 7730 in the morning. It very much will depend on customs and border patrols, but in general, I'd say 730 is kind of the standard. And then you. But then you have to schlep your luggage with you off the ship, which a lot of people are happy to do. I don't want to do it because I don't want to pull all my luggage because I always have too much luggage. I'll be honest, I'm an overpacker, but.
[00:27:33] Speaker C: I am it anyway.
[00:27:35] Speaker A: Yeah. But it makes sense, especially if you want to get to the second ship where you've got to, you know, you're going to be, you're driving like, 3 hours or so, right? So you want to get there if you want to get sort of early ish boarding, so you can take advantage of that second ship.
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Now was this a three or four night wish cruise? Which one?
[00:28:49] Speaker C: It was a three night. I do not like the short cruises at all.
[00:28:53] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Well, that's why you really want to get there early, especially if you only have three nights on the ship. Yeah. And there's so much to do on the wish. You really want to get there as early as you're allowed for your port arrival time.
[00:29:06] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I was just going to add, the amazing thing in Fort Lauderdale was, you know, we got off the ship at 720. Like, we hit the elevator to go downstairs. Right at 720 when they announced that express walk off was, was free to go. And they have the facial recognition stuff if you're sailing with your passport. And we always sail with our passports and not a birth certificate. And I think this is the big pro tip, like facial recognition. I had to slightly pause my walking so it could take a picture of me. And I was out the door. We were in their car ten minutes after hitting the elevator, you know, like by our room. It was incredible.
[00:29:44] Speaker A: Yes, it's so. It is so fast now with that facial recognition. We had the same experience at Fort Lauderdale, although we didn't do express walk off, but there wasn't much of a line when we went down to get off. And the facial recognition both when we did our back to back and when we disembarked finally at the end, it was super fast and it really does make the process a lot, a lot smoother. So we always we always. I agree with you. We always sail on our passport. We do not sail with just birth certificates. I understand there are people who don't have passports, and so they do that, but there's always a line for them. And the passport, if there's a line, it's a. It's a much faster line. Even. Even where they don't have facial recognition at Port Canaveral. Yeah. Because they are still usually separate lines of. Did you find any drawbacks to doing this side to side? I mean, you're on two different ships. Like, does one ship, like, then pale in comparison to the other? Because you can't help but compare them side by side? Right.
Or is it just more Disney magic? Tell me, are there. Yeah. What would you say? Are some of the drawbacks or maybe benefits to doing something like this?
[00:30:56] Speaker B: I think the biggest drawback is, is just the drive, you know, I mean, unless you're timing it right with one of those itineraries where it's two Disney ships at Port Canaveral on the same day, and you're just going from one tunnel to another. Yeah, we had a three hour drive, and that's just. It's a slog and, you know, there's nothing much to look at. It's unlike out here. It's flat and fairly straight, and so it's just a. It's a pretty boring drive. So as long as you're up for doing that, then, you know, that's kind of the only drawback. We hadn't been on the dream before. It was our first chance to have our son on the wish with us, and we were in concierge on the wish, and we had a new room, type that we had never been in. We got one of those forwards facing ocean views. That's the floor to ceiling, side to side. That room was incredible.
[00:31:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it was amazing.
[00:31:51] Speaker B: Loved that room.
[00:31:52] Speaker A: Those are the ones on the front of the ship on eleven and twelve. Yeah, we had one of those.
They are. It's. Yeah, it's called, like, a family ocean view, but the entire wall is windows, so it's actually slightly more expensive than the family veranda room in concierge.
[00:32:13] Speaker B: I don't think it was at first, but it is now.
[00:32:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it is now because it's a larger room, even though it doesn't have a veranda, it's a slightly larger room. And you have this beautiful full length window that. I mean, your view is the same as the captain's view, essentially, from the bridge. Yeah, it is a really fantastic, fantastic location. I think there's like five, maybe five or six of those on deck eleven and five or six of them on deck twelve.
[00:32:38] Speaker B: I think they're all on eleven.
[00:32:40] Speaker A: Oh, maybe it is. Oh, maybe it's on eleven.
[00:32:42] Speaker B: I think it's. The only concierge rooms are on eleven. Are those that are above the bridge. Yep, that's right.
[00:32:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Cause they're a little bit removed from the rest of the concierge rooms. Yeah. Which I don't really complain to.
[00:32:53] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't think, like, I don't really know, other than the drive, that there's any drawbacks. It was great getting to see, you know, the dream for the first time. You know, that's a different class of ship from. From the wish, from the Triton class. And so it was fantastic to do a little bit of comparison. It wasn't our first time on the wish, and so we didn't go in with the same level of expectations that we did from our first cruise on the wish, where we had been. Hey, we're. We're. We're Disney cruisers. We've been on most of the other ships and we know how this goes. And the wish, our first time, I would say we. We were a little. I wouldn't say disappointed, but it just didn't quite meet our expectations. And I don't think that's a Disney cruise line or a Disney wish problem. I think that's an us problem. And that we went in with. Weird. Weird. We had expectations.
[00:33:49] Speaker A: Yes. And so that's what we tried to tell folks after we went on the wish, because that was the feedback that we were hearing from people in general was like, people. People didn't like the wish because she's different. Right, right. It's like, if you go in with the open mindset of, okay, I know, she's different. Right. And you're open to seeing those differences and appreciating for what they are. Sometimes positive, sometimes negative. I feel like you can really enjoy the wish, whereas if you. If you're constantly being like, oh, well, this is supposed to be on deck four, and now it's on deck six or whatever, you know, whatever, then. Then you can't. You just fixate on those things. You can't, like, enjoy yourself. So I think that's a. That, and I think you're excited experiences very similar to a lot of people who, their first time on the wish, they really focused on those things. And then their second time on the wish, they knew those differences existed, and so they could really just more enjoy the space.
[00:34:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:43] Speaker C: We knew it would be a very different experience just from all the stuff that we've heard. And we did try to go into that, saying, this is not like the other ships. It's not nautical themed. I kind of see it as. And I know other folks have as well. It's a fairy tale castle. Castle at sea.
[00:34:59] Speaker A: That's a great description. Yeah.
[00:35:01] Speaker C: And just the way things are laid out on that ship, I don't understand.
[00:35:07] Speaker B: Yeah. It doesn't mean everything's great, but I think they still have made some interesting space utilization choices that I don't necessarily agree with, but it's. It is what it is.
[00:35:17] Speaker C: It's a Disney ship. It's amazing.
[00:35:19] Speaker B: Right. And we appreciated it so much more. Our. We just listened back to our two episodes that we did on our own podcast for the. This dream cruise, and then the wish after this morning, just coming in to refresh our memories, and we restacked our kind of stack ranking of all five Disney ships now that we had been on them. And the wish went from, like, bottom of the list to fighting for second place. Yeah.
[00:35:48] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:35:49] Speaker C: It's second place for me.
[00:35:51] Speaker B: It's fighting for second place.
[00:35:53] Speaker A: Okay, well, this is a great segue, Nathan. Cause I really wanna talk about some of your crew's favorites. You know, and in particular, I think. I mean, you just sort of. The biggest question always is, like, which ship is your favorite or how do you rank them? And I want to give each of you, because I don't think you necessarily. You're a couple, but you don't necessarily have to have the exact same rankings. So I want to hear Nathan's rankings and Alicia's rankings separate from one another. So I want you to pretend like you're not listening to each other's answers. So normal. Got it. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Just ignore each other's answers. But I want. Yeah, I would love to know. Know your. Your ranking and then why, you know, maybe why your number one is your number one. Right. We don't need to go through every, you know, detail of the differences, because obviously, everybody has a favorite, and sometimes they make sense, and sometimes they don't make sense, and it's just a feeling. Right. But I'd love to know where, you know, where that number one ranking gets its. Gets its power from. So. Yeah. Nathan, let's start with you, since you brought this up.
[00:37:00] Speaker B: Okay. I will say probably going from. From bottom to top.
[00:37:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Let's start with number five. Yeah.
[00:37:07] Speaker B: So, magic, although there's an asterisk by that. And that was the first ship that we were on 15 years ago. We haven't been on it since. You know, when we were on the magic, it was still parrot key.
[00:37:18] Speaker A: So, like, yeah, you gotta go back on the magic.
[00:37:21] Speaker B: It's been a while.
[00:37:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:23] Speaker B: And then. That's not to say it's. It's bad or anything. And we all. We just booked a cruise in 2026. 25. I don't know. 25. 25, yeah.
[00:37:36] Speaker A: Oh, six. Yeah, the six could. Could have been six because they just open.
[00:37:41] Speaker B: It's november of next year. They're doing a six night on the magic from San Juan, puerto Rico, to galveston. And it just does. It does Lighthouse point and it does castaway and two days at sea, and I was like, oh, perfect. We don't have to hit Nassau and the Caribbean. Sign me up and we get to go back on the magic. Okay, so magic's at the bottom. And this is a shocker. I'm gonna say fantasy is next up at number four. I'm gonna put the wish in at number three. I think the short itineraries have a lot to do with that in my brain. And I really do miss having an area where all of the kind of adult nightclub y and bars, like, I love having a district or the district or Europa.
[00:38:25] Speaker A: Or Europa.
[00:38:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Or whatever they want to call it on the other ships. Like, there's always a kind of a place where all those things happen, and I'm not a huge fan of it all being spread out. So wish is there in the middle. The dream shocked us. It's obviously very similar to the fantasy, but we actually, I think, like, the decor choices of the dream better than the fantasy. And I know that's a very personal thing. Like, some people could flip those. And I wouldn't argue. Like, this is a personal preference kind of thing. Wonders at the top. It's just we have spent.
[00:39:00] Speaker A: I was holding my breath there for a minute because I was worried that you were going to put wonder at number two and dream at number one, and I was going to have to tell you that you were wrong.
[00:39:07] Speaker B: No, no, no.
[00:39:07] Speaker A: And that we were done with the show for the night or for the day. I should say we're recording during the daytime, but. Yeah, but no, you saved yourself there, Nathan.
We've spent almost, because, like you said, this is so personal, like, everybody has. And the reasons behind why one is you, like one over another, is so personal. Universal taste, decor, space. You might love a particular bar, you know, like there's. Or there's just a feeling right. Like, so.
[00:39:35] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:39:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:36] Speaker B: We've spent nearly 60 days at sea on the. On the wonder. We vote with our feet. It's where, you know, we've done two Panama canal cruises. It's. Yeah, it's just home. And it's interesting talking to cast members, talking to crew members like, everybody else feels that sense of community around the wonder, too. Like, we have some amazing friends who are even still current crew members, and everybody is like, oh, yeah, the wonder. We just. We can't wait to get back on the wonder.
[00:40:00] Speaker A: It's so true. It's funny because Brian and I feel the same way about the wonder as well, and I've talked to crew who also feel that way. Alicia, let's start. Let's do yours. Starting from number five.
[00:40:11] Speaker C: Number five is the magic, just because we've only been on it for, I think, three days, four days. And again, it was way back in 2009. Was it 2004? No, that's not right. 2009.
[00:40:23] Speaker B: 2009.
[00:40:24] Speaker C: Yeah, it was way back in 2009, and we just haven't been on there since. So it's on the bottom. Next, I would say, is the fantasy. I still love the fantasy, but the dream just really surprised us. Same type of thing. Like, we just like the layout better, especially in the adult areas. It just made more sense where they put things, even though that's. That came out before the fantasy. So magic fantasy, dream wishes. Number two. For me, I don't know if it's just because it's brand new and has that bright and shiny feel to it. Yeah, I like the theming of that ship so much. I love the theming of the spaces. I love that they have a Star wars bar, and I love that they have a princess in the frog themed bar as well. And wonder is top of my heart. I love it so much.
[00:41:12] Speaker A: Oh, I love that. Awesome. Yeah, it sounds like. And I love to. Like you said, like I said earlier, I loved your description of the wish being, like, a castle at sea. And so. So I think if, you know, for folks who are castle people, if you're a castle person, you are going to like the wish, right? Like, more so than if you're, I don't know, let's say, a treasure island person. Right? Like. And then maybe the treasure is going to be your jam, right? So there. Yeah, there's definitely different ships for different tastes. Okay, well, moving on. In the favorites category, I need to know which rotational dining is your favorite, understanding that you haven't done rapunzel's royal table yet, because, as you mentioned, parakeet was on, so I know Parakeet was there, so I know Rapunzel's royal table was not there. I will say, I'll be interested to hear if your rankings change, if the magic moves up in the rankings after you go on her, you know, in your upcoming cruise. But, yeah, I'd love to know which is. Which is number one in your hearts for rotational dining and on what ship, because, obviously, there's a couple that are replicated on different ships. Alicia, we'll start with you this time.
[00:42:20] Speaker C: I'm kind of torn on this one. Cause I love animators palette. I love the shows that they put on, but I love Tiana's because of the music and the beignets.
[00:42:29] Speaker A: Yeah, and the beignets.
[00:42:32] Speaker C: That one's hard for me. Like. Yeah, I don't know.
[00:42:35] Speaker A: All right, so it's a tie there. All right, Nathan, what about you?
[00:42:38] Speaker B: For me, it's Tritons. Tritons. Lumiere's royal table, palace court, whatever they want to call it.
[00:42:45] Speaker C: 1923, for one reason.
[00:42:48] Speaker B: I love that more fancy menu. I love kind of the more french inspired menu that's on the first four ships.
[00:42:57] Speaker C: Oh, I thought it was gonna be because of the escargot.
[00:42:59] Speaker B: Well, that was what I was getting to. It's the escargot on the menu for it? For me, yeah, absolutely.
[00:43:04] Speaker A: Oh, that's so funny. Yeah. I mean, I love the escargot also, and I always appreciate when I'm in that dining room for its regular rotation. Cause I love the. I love the chateaubriand, and I love the escargot as well. Although, I'll be honest, I don't like any of the salad choice I have found I don't really like most of Disney cruise line salad choices in general. So I'm going to give a pro tip while we're having this. This discussion and tell you that if you want a Caesar salad at any point during dinner, like, you can get a Caesar salad as your. As your starter salad or, like, a plain garden salad as well. So, yeah, I'm. I don't know if I'm just a picky salad person, but I. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of most of the salads on tv.
[00:43:47] Speaker B: I'll tag onto that and say, if you're a fan of scrambled eggs with your breakfast, don't get them on Disney cruise line.
[00:43:53] Speaker C: Cause, oh, my gosh, they're fine.
[00:43:55] Speaker A: I don't have an issue with this. I'm with you, Nathan. But, you know, I did. I have heard from folks, and I still haven't yet to do this myself. If you are in sit down dining, or even if you go to the omelet station, you can actually ask and order fresh scrambled eggs. So you can actually get them to make you fresh scrambled eggs with real eggs rather than the stuff that's in the vat of scrambled eggs, which is what? If you order scrambled eggs at breakfast, they will even a sit down dining, they will bring you what is the scrambled eggs that are already made, that are in that vat, and those are made with, like, an egg mix thing.
[00:44:31] Speaker B: I guarantee you those came onto the ship as a powder.
[00:44:34] Speaker A: Yeah, probably. Probably. Or, I mean, they might have come on as a liquid, but they are not coming as. Yeah, as eggs. Yeah. As actual chicken eggs. Okay, well, I want to. I want to talk, so I want to talk activities on board. And I. I want to do, like, two separate categories, though. So this, as people can tell, I'm doing favorites. I'm doing it a little different from rapid fire because I want to get more of the why behind this from Alicia and Nathan. So that's where we're having this discussion as a discussion instead of a rapid fire. I want to know, you guys have an older kid and a younger kid. I mean, older than our kid, but what's your favorite sort of family activity to do on Disney cruise line? I mean, it could be just lying at by the pool. So don't get me wrong, it doesn't have to be an organized activity, but what is each of yours favorite activity to do as a family? So, Nathan, we'll start with you for this one.
[00:45:33] Speaker B: I'm going to say it's probably the shows getting together, and especially these days, our son will go off to the edge and make a new friend almost instantly. And it's kind of like he's gone fun kind of all day during the day. And we just say, hey, we're gonna go to the show and we're gonna do dinner, and then he can take off after that, and then we'll see him at some point, you know, before he feels like he needs to go to bed.
It's a really awesome opportunity to give these kids a little bit more freedom than you give them at home. And we kind of lean into that. Cause they're not gonna get into too much trouble. So I would just say it's generally kind of the evenings of getting to hang out, you know, going to see a show, whatever that is, and spending some time and connecting over dinner of, like, what you've been up to today and what's been fun.
[00:46:22] Speaker A: Awesome. Alicia, what about you?
[00:46:24] Speaker C: Kind of the same thing.
We have an extremely extroverted son, and he is in a family of extreme introverts. So.
[00:46:37] Speaker A: That'S funny.
[00:46:38] Speaker C: We very rarely see him when we're on a ship, except for our rule is you have to eat dinner with us, you have to see the show with us. Our daughter, she'll hang out with us, and we'll just, like, sit by the pool and read. And we're all happy doing that.
So for family stuff, I feel kind of bad saying this. We don't really do a lot of family stuff on the cruise. Like, we haven't done any of the family trivias or. I know there's like a family disco night, which. Or silent disco. I saw you all posted a wonderful little picture of that. I'm like, okay, I think we need to do that next time. Cause that sounds really fun with the kids, yet we pretty much kind of just let them loose.
[00:47:17] Speaker A: I love that. But listen, I mean, everybody cruises differently and sometimes it's, you know, we don't make our kid come to the show with us because he would be bored out of his mind. So, you know, he does. The requirement is dinner. And we do. We may drag him to a couple of family activities, but, you know, it is his vacation, too, and we want to let him do what he wants to do. And more than not, that's playing in the kids club or now in edge with other people his own age, you know, where kind of. We kind of cramped their style, I guess. Well, I want to. I said I was going to ask this in two parts, and the reason I'm going to ask this in two parts because I know you all sail and vacation sometimes without your kids. And so I'm curious, you know, when you're sailing, just the two of you, either with friends or without friends, what's sort of your favorite activity to do either solo or as a couple? Alicia, I'll start with you.
[00:48:09] Speaker C: Chocolate and liquor tasting. Handsome.
[00:48:11] Speaker B: Plus one. Plus one.
[00:48:13] Speaker A: Oh, nice.
[00:48:15] Speaker C: We love the tastings. There's that one. And then we fairly recently discovered the rum tasting on castaway.
But we will try and do chocolate and liquor pretty much every trip that we are on a ship.
[00:48:30] Speaker B: I love it because I really like scotch. And usually that last is like a Glen morange, a cygnet or something like that. And there's a bunch of people in the room who are like, I'm not going to do scotch. And so more often than not. I have a few of those and it works out great. Great for me.
[00:48:45] Speaker C: Yeah, that is an expensive pour, too.
[00:48:47] Speaker B: It is an expensive pour. And it also has. I don't know if. Are you going to get food? Are we going to do food like favorite food?
[00:48:55] Speaker A: I wasn't going to do food, but if you want to jump in with that. Yeah.
[00:48:59] Speaker B: Yeah. So my favorite savory item, which I know you always love saving for last savories, it's the Parmigiano reggiano wedge that you can get out of Palo, and they include that as one of the tasting options with the chocolate and liquor. I forget which drink they pair it with with off the top of my head, but that's awesome. Yeah, you can. You can get the cheese and. Yeah, I'm here for that.
[00:49:21] Speaker A: That is some good cheese. So I was gonna segue into pro tip. I want. I want you to give our audience your. You know, you guys are experienced cruisers. You've been on 16 and 14 cruises for Nathan.
Those two are gonna really, you know, there's a wedge in your marriage. Alicia, you might want to rectify this, but. Yeah, I want to, you know, pro tip. If you could give one or two pro tips to someone who is a newer cruiser, they don't necessarily have to be a brand new cruiser, but one or two tips to folks that you wish maybe you had known about or something you sort of discovered that might help somebody out there who's a newer cruiser. Nathan, I'll start with you.
[00:50:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I actually love. And I'm going to channel Brian here a little bit. And you don't need to rope drop on Disney cruise line.
It's such a tempting thing to try to rope drop everything and just let it go. Let it go.
They're not gonna, like, you know, sail away without you. They're not gonna not serve you dinner because you showed up two minutes after the start time.
It's fine. Just try to find those moments to relax.
[00:50:39] Speaker A: Except for when you're leaving a port. Be there. If they say all aboard.
[00:50:43] Speaker B: Sail away without you.
[00:50:44] Speaker A: Yeah. If they say all aboard, time is a certain time. That they mean all aboard. Time is a certain time. Don't be a peer runner. Okay, good caveat.
[00:50:51] Speaker B: Good caveat.
But, yeah, I think there's something for everybody. And don't feel like you need to pack your day full on a Disney cruise line vacation like you might in a theme park where you're trying to do this and that and this and that and do like. Those aren't. They're almost not vacations anymore in the park. It's like it's an adventure, but it's not. It's not relaxing. So give yourself a chance to just enjoy. Enjoy what? You know, as we're starting to sample a couple other cruise lines, what we are discovering is just a phenomenal level of service and attention to detail across the board that Disney offers. Like, if you just want to hang out by the pool and read, they're going to take care of you there, too, and that's okay.
[00:51:38] Speaker A: They'll bring you nice drinks.
[00:51:40] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:51:42] Speaker A: All right, Alicia, pro tip from you.
[00:51:44] Speaker C: Pro tip from me. Swing it. Do a longer cruise. Yes, that is my pro tip.
[00:51:50] Speaker A: That is an excellent pro tip. Alicia, I will always say longer cruises always win. Okay, now I'm going to ask you the last question I ask in rapid fire, because I feel like that's always a fun question. Your bucket list cruise. If you could go anywhere in the world on a Disney cruise line ship, and it doesn't even have to be someplace the Disney cruise line currently sails to, where would you go, Alicia?
[00:52:11] Speaker C: So it used to be my bucket list was a mediterranean cruise, but it's not that anymore because I think port day after port, day after port, day after port day, would just be exhausting.
So I'm going to say my bucket list cruise is visiting all of the parks via Chris.
[00:52:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. That would be amazing. I love that. All right, Nathan, your bucket list?
[00:52:33] Speaker B: My bucket list is going to be retirement in a one bedroom concierge room.
[00:52:40] Speaker A: You might have neighbors. You might be your neighbors.
[00:52:44] Speaker B: Welcome.
[00:52:45] Speaker A: That would be a fantastic retirement. Okay, so what I. Before we close the show, I need to ask you what's next? What is the trip that you've got planned next? Is it a parks trip? Is a cruise. I know you've got two cruises you mentioned planned, but what's the next trip that you've got that you're getting ready to go on? I don't know. Sometime this summer.
[00:53:07] Speaker C: We actually plan out, I think, like a year and a half, two years in advance. So we've got, like, any Disney world. So many things. Exactly.
Our next Disney trip is in August, and we are headed down to California for our very first D 23.
[00:53:22] Speaker A: Oh, nice. Fantastic. Is it all of you or just the two of you, or just me and Nathan?
[00:53:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:27] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:53:28] Speaker B: So Sterling is doing an away camp, and Caitlin, she's a quote unquote adult and can take care of herself. And actually, I think she's flying off to see a friend or something. I don't remember something's going on with her, too. So yeah, we're going to go down. We're going to do D 23. That's probably some of the most topical podcast episodes that we'll be doing. Try to get those out, kind of like right on time. I don't think we're going to do like something daily or anything like that. But we're definitely hoping for some announcements from DCL, although they've been spilling a lot of beans lately, so we'll see what's left to tell. But hoping to hear some more about what's going on in the parks and what they're planning for Disneyland forward and what they're doing with beyond Big Thunder and Florida and all sorts of other stuff that's going on that hopefully we'll hear more about. So yeah, D 23. And then I was looking at her calendar the other day, and we have, we have Disney trips basically once a month from August through I think February or March.
[00:54:30] Speaker A: So it's kind of, it's a bit of an obsession. I understand. You know, why don't you tell our audience if they want to follow along with your adventures and mouse capades, where they can follow along with you and how they can find you on podcasts, channels, social media, all the things.
[00:54:48] Speaker B: Yeah. So you can find us at our Mouska page. We're on lots of social medias. We're on our mouscapades.com. we're even on YouTube, although I have a face for radio. So that's just our audio feed over there. But yeah, come follow along all of our various adventures and mouse capades and cruises and everything else we've got going on.
[00:55:09] Speaker A: Awesome. Well, thanks you guys for coming on the show. We really appreciate it and we will see you real soon.
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