[00:00:00] Speaker A: I will tell you, I've been training for this my whole life. I'm ready for my stage debut as a puppeteer. I don't. You don't even. I could be like, apparently just.
[00:00:11] Speaker B: You see a lawn chair and a sign and you can sit outside the CBC building and maybe they'll. Maybe they'll know.
Welcome back everybody to a. A special live edition of the DCL Duo podcast here on this Tuesday evening. And as always, our podcast is brought to you by the good folks over at MyPath Unwinding Travel and as well our guests this evening. That's right, we've got someone from WDW magazine with us. Let me welcome Danny and Sam into the show. There we go. I was looking for the button.
[00:00:58] Speaker C: Hello.
Thanks for having me on, guys. I'm really excited to be here.
[00:01:02] Speaker A: We are so excited to have you. We have had your, your other half, your wife Stephanie a couple of times at this point, but we're super excited to have you on the show today. Dani, we are of course going to be talking about your amazing trip to Toronto to. Well, I mean you're. You're there, right? But your, your adventure in Toronto in, in being able to see some rehearsals at Hercules of Hercules, which is being brought to the new Disney Destiny ship. But we're just really excited to have you on. We love you guys as a sponsor of our show. Of course, for those of you who haven't already, go out and get that special edition of the WDW magazine, the float test, the Disney cruise line, of course, with a beautiful shiny pictures of all of the Disney ships, some information about ABD and DCL excursions, and of course an amazing article brought to you by our very own Brian, the co host and producer of this show, talking all about parasailing at Castaway. And Dani, you take the most beautiful pictures and your pictures are featured of course, all over WDW magazine. But of course in this special float test edition as well.
Can you tell me what's the secret to taking such good pictures?
[00:02:25] Speaker C: I'll tell you. I mean, good pictures don't just happen. We like to make it look natural.
I do spend a lot of time. It's a craft and you have to hone it.
I am not a photographer by trade.
We work with very talented people at the magazine.
And honestly, I picked up photography because there are situations where the magazine might be invited to a Disney event, but maybe we only have one spot. You know, in a perfect world, I would send one of our dedicated photographers to a company, but we had this gap, you know, I would go and I would have my phone and I would, you know, they were okay. But we want to present the best possible product to our audience.
And so, you know, I invested in a bit of camera gear, not a lot. And I dialed up the YouTube videos and just practice, practice, practice. You know, they say it takes 10,000 hours to become proficient at something.
I can tell you from my Lightroom catalog that I've taken well over 10,000 photos on Disney Cruise Line and in the parks and, you know, always striving to make them just a little bit better.
[00:03:34] Speaker A: Well, that's awesome. It definitely shows.
[00:03:36] Speaker B: We did have a request that you include some Disney Cruise line photos in the WDW magazine calendar.
[00:03:46] Speaker C: I don't want to. We don't talk about products that aren't real yet. But so we have the three magazines, right? We have WDW Magazine, DLR Magazine and DCL magazine. And what we've learned is that while there are mega Disney fans that want all things Disney all over the world, the audience, audiences really like to, you know, the WDW fans, they're dedicated to Florida, dlr, Disneyland. Their heart is in California. And the DCL people feel the same way about the ships. Yeah.
We have tried Castles around the World calendar and honestly some of the feedback that we got was people, you know, they didn't recognize maybe the castle in Shanghai or Tokyo.
And so we have thought about including DCL in the wall calendar, but maybe it's its own own dedicated DCL wall calendar.
[00:04:40] Speaker A: Maybe sometime you'd have two customers right here.
[00:04:44] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
I love the imagery too, of like it feels like that scene in Anchorman. Like there's the WDW crowd coming around the corner. The D.C. or the Disneyland crowd.
Crowd is like up on a roof somewhere with popcorn, just eating.
[00:04:57] Speaker C: You know, they don't want to rumble. The only rumbling they do is about, you know, which one is the best experience or, you know, which one am I going to book next? Because everyone has love for all of.
It's just that, you know, some people, they, they get swept away in one particular branch or another.
[00:05:13] Speaker B: Oh, for sure.
We know nothing, we know nothing about that at all.
[00:05:18] Speaker A: Our friend Tracy in the chat is giving an idea, maybe a calendar of elevator selfies that are taken on Disney Cruise Line, which, I mean, not a bad idea. I know Tracy has enough elevator selfies to fill an entire 12 month calendar.
[00:05:32] Speaker C: I know lots of people. That's where you get your fit check, right? You've left your stateroom. You're in the elevator, you're heading out to dinner or up to the pool deck or what? That, that's how you, you, you check your cruise fit and make sure you're ready for a beautiful vacation.
[00:05:44] Speaker B: Absolutely, absolutely. Well, we're here to talk about a really exciting topic. You got invited to see the Hercules rehearsal space. And some, I'm assuming some of the rehearsal itself.
I'm going to pull up, I'm going to pull up the, the PowerPoint to get us going here, but I'm going to kind of sit back here. Sam, you know, is wearing her.
Well, it's a parody Playbill T shirt. A friend of ours. Yeah.
[00:06:10] Speaker A: So this my T shirt. I got to give a shout, a special shout out to Parody Bill. They make mashup products of different musicals. And because this is a musical themed show, I don't have a Hercules the Musical shirt right now.
[00:06:23] Speaker C: It's definitely Mercury.
[00:06:27] Speaker A: Yeah. If I went to London, I could get one, but I don't have one for, you know, for that for the West End show. But I decided to wear a musical themed shirt today. So my shirt says dear Cady Heron, which is basically a mashup of Dear Evan Hansen and Mean Girls the musical. And so this was made by Parody Bell and it says, hashtag, you can sit with us. Right? Like hashtag, you will be found.
[00:06:51] Speaker C: I like the inclusion in that. That's right.
[00:06:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:06:55] Speaker C: Because you know the Mean Girls.
Yeah, I know Mean Girls, you know, not Disney. Off topic, but what a great show.
[00:07:02] Speaker A: Yeah, what a great show. Right. And dear Evan Danson, what a great show.
[00:07:05] Speaker B: Also, tomorrow we wear pink, I guess, right? Tomorrow we wear pink.
[00:07:08] Speaker A: Yes. On Wednesdays.
Absolutely.
[00:07:11] Speaker B: Let me get us going here. Danny hopefully prepared this great slide presentation. Danny, walk us through what you saw.
[00:07:18] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm going to set this up for you guys. So your audience may or may not recognize this building. This is the CBC building in downtown Toronto. Cbc, the Canadian Broadcasting Company, they've been around for going on close to 100 years at this point.
[00:07:32] Speaker A: They bring us to Grassy Junior High.
[00:07:35] Speaker C: Yes, they do, among others.
And so this building, this dates back to the 90s. They built this purpose built building.
It's fully kitted out. They broadcast. They have three radio networks that they broadcast out of here. They've got full television production studios, corporate offices, executive offices. It's this huge complex. It's in downtown Toronto. It's very close to the skydome, which I guess now we call the Rogers center and the CN Tower.
But the secret that nobody knows about the CBC building is that there's a whole underground portion of it. And down in the basement, hidden underneath the CBC building is the Disney Cruise Line rehearsal facilities that myself and a few other members of the media were invited to come and have a special sneak peek. Sneak peek. We got to look in on the cast of the Destiny while they were rehearsing Hercules. And we got a tiny sneak peek at the cast of the Disney Adventure getting ready for their shows to the ship that's gonna be based out of Singapore.
[00:08:39] Speaker A: This is like my dream version of an evil dungeon. But it's like the happiest place in the world because it's theater. People rehearsing for amazing theater shows.
[00:08:49] Speaker C: You know what, as soon as I walked in, it almost felt like a summer camp or like a high school. Like so the walls, you know, so it's underground. There's no natural light, but everything is bright, you know, vibrant accent colors on the walls. There's big light up Mickey Mouse art.
All the pictures on the walls are showing off, like concept art or photos of other productions.
Each of the different rehearsal rooms is named after a Disney character. So, you know, they'd be like, oh, yeah, Adventures rehearsing in the Olaf room and Destiny's rehearsing in Chip and Dale.
[00:09:26] Speaker B: You know.
[00:09:28] Speaker A: And this is in downtown Toronto. This isn't like some warehouse in the middle of nowhere.
[00:09:33] Speaker C: No, no, no. This is like the heart of the city, Toronto. I mean, you know, maybe Toronto's not up in the ranks of New York and London, but Toronto's no slouch when it comes to live theater.
And you're walking distance from this building to King street, which is where all the major theaters are in Toronto. There's a lot of musical theater talent in the city, both on stage and backstage.
I actually asked the Disney people, you know, why Toronto?
And the answer is a combination of proximity and talent.
You know, there's a major international airport, they're close to New York. There's talent in the city already. It's a short flight down to Orlando for getting on the cruise ships.
It all just sort of worked out.
[00:10:20] Speaker A: Yeah, well, and there's a huge acting community in Toronto because so much, so many films and TV shows are actually filmed in Toronto as well. I feel like there's a ton of filming both in Toronto and in Vancouver in B.C. on the west coast of Canada. And so I feel like these two cities are like, iconic in the film and sort of acting industry. And so it's not surprising that they would choose, as you mentioned, the proximity to New York is also fantastic there as well. And so it's not surprising to me at least that they would choose a place like Toronto to have their rehearsal space and their audition space and all of that. So tell us like, were you there for like a whole day? What does this sort of look like? Logistically?
[00:11:03] Speaker C: It was a whole day event.
So the out of town media arrived the night before. We had a little welcome dinner, you know, get to know you there. It was a small group, about 10 outlets in total, myself representing the WDW and DCL magazines.
We had representatives from broadwayworld.com for Playbill, an outlet called the Gate.
I'm sure I'm forgetting something, but it was a mix of Disney specific outlets as well as some theater specific outlets and then some general sort of entertainment, pop culture, film, TV sort of. And it was a established media outlets as well as some content creators and influencers. And then there was also a group of Disney executives who were there PR people. All told, we were about 20 in our group. So everybody gets to know each other. We all break bread together the night before. Then when we wake up, it was a Monday when all of this happened. So we woke up, we had breakfast and then we traveled as a group.
You know, we had to be badged into the building.
You know, it's all.
They're very quiet about the fact that they're taking up residence here. You know, there's. You're not going to see a big DCL sign anywhere, not until you get into the actual space. So we had our press lanyards, we had our Disney escorts, we got badged into the building, taken down some fortunately, and we're going to share with your, your audience. Some of the day was open for photos and videos and recording. Some of the day was embargoed information that we got to witness and enjoy, but not for capturing content of.
And then they took us through the day. We did. The highlights were. So we got to see some performances. We saw a full or as full as it is in this stage of rehearsals, a full run through of Zero to Hero from the Hercules show, which was phenomenal. We got to see a run through of friend like me that's going to be on the adventure. They have a version of Aladdin, but it's different than the version of Aladdin that you've seen on the current Disney ships.
[00:13:21] Speaker A: Oh, interesting. Did they tell you and are you able to share what's different about that version of Aladdin?
[00:13:29] Speaker C: They didn't get into the specifics, but from my viewing of it. I suspect that the stage is larger on the adventure. I mean, the whole ship is larger. And I wasn't able to do a headcount of all the performers on stage. But the ensemble, the company certainly looked larger and more robust to me.
It was also slightly different choreography. You know, it's, it's a big fun dance number. There's lots of people on stage. People are doing flips and cartwheels and you know, it's that big explosive moment in the show. But it looked even bigger, even more elaborate for the rehearsal that we witnessed.
[00:14:13] Speaker A: That is so cool.
[00:14:14] Speaker B: Stephanie's asking in the chat, or is Aladdin part of the Wall E show? Question mark. So. Oh, ok.
[00:14:19] Speaker C: Okay. So Steph, Steph. Okay. So we got two glimpses at the adventure.
They are doing Aladdin. That's going to be one of the shows in the main theater.
And then we also got a glimpse at Remember. Remember is a brand new show on the adventure. This is their multi film, multi IP jukebox style musical.
[00:14:43] Speaker A: And this is their Believe or Disney dreams. For those who want to compare, it's going to be a variety. They're going to string together some story and the, the theme is Remember Me. Right. So there's definitely a Coco scene. We know, we've seen that in the, in the artwork that, that concept art. That Coco, that Miguel is in it. Right. And playing his guitar and so clearly there's going to be multiple scenes. But. Yeah. What else did you. So Wally was in this. That's so cool.
[00:15:12] Speaker C: Okay, so what I can tell you and Wall E has a special place in my heart. I've always, you know, it's my, my favorite of the Pixar movies. I think it's so beautiful and emotional and they convey, if you watch that movie, there's almost no dialogue.
Exactly. It's music and sound effects and they convey so much with so few words and I love it. So the quick tiny synopsis of Remember on the Adventure.
So it takes place on Earth after the events of Wall E. Wall E and Eve are going to sort of guide us through the different songs that happen in Remember.
They're separated. Eve has gone out on a mission as part of the effort to you pizza, plants and all of the great things that they're doing on Earth after the, the film and, and, and something happens. It's almost a reversal of the movie. Eve loses her memories this time and then Wally is going through the various musical numbers from all these different Disney and Pixar films that we love to help bring her back.
So we saw. And again, this is all very rough. You know, they have people who are building these incredible, intricate puppets. But that work has to happen while the actors are learning the show. So we saw a very rudimentary rehearsal. Wall E, you know, he still had Wall E's basic shape and the eyes articulated and moved and. But they made it very clear to us that this only represents a. A percentage of what the finished puppet will do and will look like.
[00:16:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:51] Speaker C: So Wally's cleaning up his home. He finds a cassette tape that he loads into the tv, and Remember Me comes on. Then a human performer with a guitar comes on stage and starts singing a lovely rendition of Remember Me. And Wally's got this broom, and he's sweeping up the apartment. But then he starts to, like, play air guitar on the broom and make his little Wall E beeps and boops like he's singing along. And when I tell you that this rehearsal, this stripped own version, almost had me in tears, like, it's incredible, Danny.
[00:17:30] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm, like, tearing up just hearing you retell this, because I. I absolutely love Wally. Wally was one of. I would say, one of the early movies for our son as well. And he just, like, fell in love with it, I think. He. He. You know, he loved robots. And I think it didn't matter to him that it didn't have hardly any dialogue, as you mentioned. And it's just such a beautiful movie. And. And there is Wally and Eve, and the idea of doing that with puppetry. I just. I'm enthralled by the way that Disney Cruise Line does puppetry. I still to this day, think that Frozen on DCL is the best version of Frozen out there in the world, bar none. Like, better than the film, better than the Broadway musical, better than the version they used to have at Disneyland. Right. Like the DCL version. And part of the reason it's the best version is because of the puppetry. Because the way that they do the Elsa and Anna as children and the way that they do Olaf is just incredible. And so I have to say, I think Disney Cruise Line does puppetry on stage in a way that is only paralleled by the Muppets. And that's the highest praise I think you can give puppetry.
[00:18:45] Speaker C: I fully agree.
When you think about the source material that they're adapting, some of these characters, some of these creatures, conceive of another way that they could realize that on stage, you know, yeah, there's screens and you could project things, and, yeah, you can have an actor In a costume, and you can sort of, you know, anthropomorphize the. But for some of these characters, the puppetry, I feel like, is not only the only way, but the best way that they can bring these characters to life.
[00:19:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I love that. Well, we've got some pictures. Let's. Let's look at some.
[00:19:23] Speaker C: So we got our teases. We got our teases of the adventure. Adventure, which was wonderful. But the focus of the day was all about Hercules. So we had two major demonstrations. The first was a puppetry demonstration, which you're looking at here, where we got to see the hydra. The hydra sequence, if you remember the film. The hydra sequence is a. It's a real turning point for Hercules, right? He's done his training. He wants to go out into the world and prove that he's a real hero. And this is like his first big challenge. And. And similarly, in the stage adaptation that they're putting together, this is a major story moment.
So the people that we're looking at here in the photo on the left, that's Jeff Conover. He's the creative director of puppetry for this show. And then on the right, in the brown shirt, that's James Duncan. He was the puppet specialist.
So one of the things that they do in this facility is they are teaching the actors. Many of these actors don't have experience with puppetry. So you have professionals, professionals like James, whose role is to teach the members of the ship casts how puppetry works, how to make a puppet come alive and connect with the audience. Because let me tell you, when we walk into the room, these puppets are lifeless. They're just sort of hanging on these supports. But under the skilled hands of a puppeteer, they move and they're alive and they have personality.
So that was really cool. So they gave us a. An explanation. The hydra sequence is going to be a mix of practical puppets as well as some projections and other special effects.
We actually. They let us try on the puppets. I am inside. I don't know if we have a picture of me, but I got to go inside that hydra head and get a little crash course on how puppetry works, which is pretty amazing.
[00:21:22] Speaker A: So cool that, like, that's. These are like the unique experiences of these actors to get to do this kind of puppetry too. Because if you. I mean, if you think about it, like, most. Most stage shows, like on Broadway, don't tend to lean into using puppetry. I'm not saying all of them, obviously, Avenue Q was revelation of using puppetry on Stage and I mean shout out to that show. But most don't. So this is like, I mean, Taka and Te Fiti and Moana, Tale of Moana on the Treasure does this incredibly. So I love that, you know, I love that they do this.
[00:21:57] Speaker C: It's a great training ground. And you know, they, they give you these lessons. There are things that human actors do by default when they're on stage. They sort of, you know, shift around a bit, they blink their eyes, they have these little natural movements that the body is doing on autopilot, but the puppets don't do that. And that's the difference. You know, when someone is performing a puppet and when they're adding in those little movements, those tilts and shifts and stuff, that's what makes these characters feel alive.
And that's a skill that you have to cultivate.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: So Danny, is what we're looking at basically. Are these like the final puppets just not painted yet or these. The final puppets themselves? Yeah. What are we looking at?
[00:22:39] Speaker C: Disney refers to these as rehearsal puppets. Got it partnered up with Michael Curry Design who is producing the final show. Ready Puppets. Michael Curry has a bunch of Disney credits to his name. He was involved in the Broadway adaptations of Lion King and Frozen. He was also involved in the, the big Te Fiti puppet in the Tale of Moana on the Disney Treasure. It's a long running partnership between the two organizations. The puppets that you're looking at here are, they are the same size, they are the same weight, they have the same controls.
But these puppets are going to live in Toronto for rehearsal purposes. The final, fully decked out, fully painted with lights, with special effects. Those are being manufactured separately and heading out to the ship in Germany, in Papenburg where they're building the ship. That was one of the interesting things that we learned is that the actors have to do these rehearsals, you know, on land in Toronto. And it's not until they get on whatever their final ship is going to be that they actually do, you know, a full, proper run through, full tech rehearsal, full special effects, full costumes, the whole bit.
[00:23:56] Speaker B: This was the thing that delayed. This was the thing that delayed on the wish the show because they, the theater was not finished when they started their crossing and by the time it was finished, they didn't have enough time for full rehearsal.
[00:24:07] Speaker C: So.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:24:08] Speaker C: And then I believe the, the cast on the Destiny gets a little bit more time because they're the inaugural cast.
Typically we were told that the crossover period is about two weeks and during that time the current cast on the ship, they keep entertaining the audience in the, the, in the off hours. The newly arrived cast, that's their opportunity to get used to the full effects, do their full run throughs and then get any pointers from the current cast, that sort of thing.
[00:24:40] Speaker A: Yeah, that's definitely. They get a lot, the second and third and fourth and so on cast definitely get less time.
And I mean that it makes sense because as you mentioned, they can learn from the current cast. They can watch the show, you know, being done live when it's being performed for the guests. And then they do their rehearsals during, during the day when the Walt Disney Theater is not being used. And so super intense. Of course, they all go to Toronto first to learn their parts and to learn the show on land, no matter what cast they're from. And as you mentioned, all of the ships, actually we were talking about this in the pre show, all of the Disney ships have cast basically in rehearsals at any given time in Toronto. Because for example, the Treasure right now Treasure cast Entertainment cast number two is still on the Treasure right now. But Entertainment cast number three has to be currently learning because they're going to be doing that changeover pretty soon from my estimation of how long Treasure cast two has been on. And so, yeah, so they're going to have that transition time, but they have to be learning their shows currently on land. So they're learning Tale of Moana, for example.
[00:25:50] Speaker C: Yes, and that's what's so great about this Toronto space is they told us that they have enough room to be rehearsing five different casts all in one spot. And the thing that's so amazing, that's so cool about this space, even though we're underground, they still have 30 foot ceilings in this space. And the reason they have 30 foot ceilings is because in some of the rooms they've got the full fly rig so that they can teach actors how to do the theatrical flying.
Because I learned maybe you knew this, maybe your audience already knows this, but these actors, they're not just doing the main shows in the Walt Disney Theater. These are also your actors for the deck parties, for the Pirate Night party.
You know, if you're on a themed cruise like Marvel Day at Sea.
And so, you know, maybe somebody's learning to fly as Peter Pan for a stage show, but that's the same rig that Spider man uses for the Marvel Deck Party.
And so they have like a one.
[00:26:49] Speaker A: To one Sparrow uses for the Pirate Deck party.
[00:26:56] Speaker C: It's a really amazing facility. So here you have another look at the Hydra puppets. You can see James on the right hand side of the screen getting strapped in to operate the puppets. The heads that you're seeing, we were told, weigh about 30 pounds, 28, 29 pounds, somewhere in there.
And the puppeteer is wearing this backpack system. They referred to it as an exo frame.
And so the backpack is bearing most of the weight.
And then you use your hands to manipulate the jaw and the head of the Hydra puppet. So you can see James there getting strapped in that blue thing behind him. That's just a support that the puppet hangs on while it's not in use.
And then if you can picture. Sure. So you're wearing this backpack. The puppet is sort of suspended up over your head. And then with your two hands, there are handles in the lower jaw of the Hydra. And then so holding it, it's like a steering wheel on a car. And that's how you, you know, you tilt and you pivot. If you, if you rotate, if sort of angle your, your forearms down, that's what opens and closes the mouth.
And that's how the Hydras come to life.
[00:28:14] Speaker B: I want, I want to call out. I want to call out. For those of you listening to this afterwards, head over to. I keep telling you, head over to YouTube because you get to see such great visuals to put all of this together. So head over to YouTube. And I was going to say, Danny, I think there was a video on your Instagram of you manipulating one of the. Like they let you manipulate one of the puppets, which was.
[00:28:33] Speaker C: Yes, really.
[00:28:35] Speaker B: Watch.
[00:28:35] Speaker C: What was truly special about this event is that this was hands on, you know, so I, I hopped into that R, I got strapped in and had the puppet and, you know, I had a brief crash course from James. And then they let me, you know, do my best to be a Hydra. And if you head over to WDW magazine to our Instagram account, you can see a recap. You can see some video footage of me doing my best to puppeteer.
It was really amazing.
[00:29:02] Speaker B: I'm surprised you're here tonight, Danny. Not up with the cast rehearsing for your bit on the Destiny when she, when she goes on our Maiden. So there you go.
[00:29:09] Speaker C: You're very kind. You know, I've always loved theater. I think there's something really magical about the live performance.
But I could never. I don't have the personality to be on stage. I like to be near the theater. I like to enjoy it and I like to, you know, participate. I like to be theater adjacent, but I don't want to be, you know, on stage necessarily.
[00:29:31] Speaker B: So I also want to point out these are great shots because I think I see, I think I see an Elsa or an Anna peeking over. I think I see a crush over there maybe. And I see, I want to know what that little dog is on the left hand side. I'm like looking at this dog going.
[00:29:45] Speaker C: What show is that from? You know what that little, that little dog is? The baby Sven puppet from the start of Frozen.
[00:29:57] Speaker A: Where are you seeing this, Brian? I don't see where you're pointing.
[00:30:00] Speaker B: It's on, it's on the left hand side of the screen past the, the, you know, the, the hydra head.
[00:30:06] Speaker C: He's on a little blue support stand. So he's hard to see.
[00:30:09] Speaker A: Yeah, he's hard to see because he's also like white because he's not painted. As you mentioned, they're not necessarily all decked out because it's just the rehearsal version. So I wasn't, Yeah, I was gonna mention, I think the way that they do like Sven and Maximus, right, on the ships is also incredible. And like, as you mentioned, even just like the, if you think about it as a person stands and moves, you know, from side to side just as they are breathing, right? Like they have to do motions that, that mimic the way the animal or the. Well, in this, I mean, hydra is an animal too, but it's just a, you know, it's a beast, maybe a mythical creature. Exactly. But they have to like, you know, we have to think like, how would a hydra have moved, right? And so, you know, they're sort of creating this, this idea of how this animal would breathe and how it would look like, how it would turn its head and how it would would, you know, open its mouth and all that kind of stuff. And all of those things have to look natural in the sense that it has to look like it's an animal doing it and not a human being in a costume doing it. So it's just super cool.
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[00:32:15] Speaker C: Speaking of having the hydra open its mouth, Brian, if you just go back one photo, you may notice in sort of the lower part of the mouth here, a little slit in the fabric. If you remember from the movie Hercules gets swallowed by the hydra.
The reason I took this photo is they were telling us, you know, as they develop these puppets, it's an iterative process. They make changes as they go and they dream up special effects sequences. And so the reason I took this photo in particular, the teeth on the lower jaw are flexible. They're made of like a foam, so they look like sharp, menacing hydra teeth. But because I believe at some point our Hercules is going to be swallowed by this hydra, for the sake of the actors, they have to make that modification to the puppet.
[00:33:07] Speaker A: You don't want the, the, the two. The teeth to, to either hurt him or just even to rip his costume. Right. But yeah, he's got to get inside and then take his sword and chop their heads off. That's what he's got to do. Yeah. At least that's what happens in the movie. So if they want to do something similar to the.
Yeah, that's incredible. I love it.
[00:33:26] Speaker C: You know, they didn't tell us the whole block by block choreography, but they did let us know that the final hydras are going to be loaded with special effects. There's going to be lights, there's going to be smoke, there's going to be.
[00:33:41] Speaker A: I love it. I love it.
All right, Brian, why don't we go. Yeah, let's look at some of these other puppets that you got to see here.
[00:33:48] Speaker B: Sebastian's back there. Yeah.
[00:33:51] Speaker A: His crush. And the other. And the other sea turtles from. From Seize the Adventure and. And of course, Sebastian from the. The Little Mermaid. But also from Sees the Advent isn't Sees the Adventure. Don't they also do under the Sea? Or am I thinking of something else? I feel like there's A show where they do under this. There is another show where they do under the sea. That's not.
[00:34:11] Speaker C: I think you're right. I think it is Seize the Adventure.
[00:34:14] Speaker A: It's so cool. I. I love all the.
So you got to see all these puppets. Did they do any demos of some of these puppets as well? Or kind of resting.
[00:34:24] Speaker C: It's just set dressing. I mean, depending on what show they're rehearsing. Like, you know, looking around this room, I saw puppets from all the major shows, but they also have. Yeah, no, go to that next slide.
Like, this is, you know, Puppet School 101. And let me explain what we're looking at here. There's this basket of ping pong balls. These are just ping pong balls with a little bit of black tape and a string tying two together.
And they put them on your.
These little puppet balls. So you have a set of eyes on top of your hand. And this is like puppetry 101. How do you get the audience, how do you follow their eyeline? How do you get them to engage?
And then, you know, you can see here they've got these grip strength, hand strength tools, finger stretchers. Because this is where the cast is learning all the minutiae of, you know, how do the different puppets work? Because they all have different mechanisms. So the hydra, like I said, you're sort of holding on almost like a steering wheel and tilt, tilting to do most of the action. But other puppets, it's more of a clenching motion to make the mouth go up and down or to make the eyes blink.
And so this room, I believe it was the Olaf room, if I remember correctly. But like, this is, this is where, you know, if you've never held a puppet before, even if you're an accomplished stage actor, this is where they put the actors through Puppetry 101 training.
[00:35:52] Speaker B: This is reminding me of watching the Marionettes in Vienna. Sam.
[00:35:56] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. When we were on our adventures by Disney. I will tell you, I've been training for this my whole life. We had a Grover puppet, meaning from Sesame Street. We had a Grover puppet when I was a kid. My mom was a fantastic amateur puppeteer. She would. She would make Grover talk and interact with me and then I would mimic. And so I have been training for this Disney. Disney Cruise Line. Give me a call. I'm ready for my stage debut as a puppeteer. I don't. You don't even. I could be like, apparently just.
[00:36:31] Speaker B: You see a lawn chair on a sign and you can sit outside the CBC building And maybe they'll maybe.
[00:36:37] Speaker C: Discovered.
[00:36:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm willing to. Like I said, I'm willing to have no lines or just to make noises. Oh, my God. Here's Anna and Elsa.
[00:36:47] Speaker C: Finished. But for all the important parts, you know, the weight is the same, the mechanical movements are the same. They don't bother with the set dressing and the figure finishing. But this is, you know, enough for the actors to learn the puppetry of it.
[00:37:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:04] Speaker A: Well, I have to say, Stephanie is kind in the comments, and she's saying we're kindred spirits because I had my Grover puppet. She had an animal puppet. So, I mean, listen, Stephanie, we can go on the road. We can start our own puppetry show.
Well, I mean, I would love to do, like, Avenue Q. I'm all about it. Absolutely.
[00:37:24] Speaker C: I've seen that show so many times. I've seen it in London, I've seen it in Toronto. I love it.
[00:37:29] Speaker A: That show, the best is the best.
[00:37:31] Speaker C: So. So that was the puppetry part of our day. The next part of our day, we got to learn some choreography for the show. They taught us eight bars of choreography, which was plenty for me, thank you very much.
[00:37:46] Speaker A: I love it.
[00:37:48] Speaker C: So this photo. So we're looking at Kevin and Marcel. William Wilson. Kevin and Marcel Wilson. They are the show directors and choreographers. They're brothers. And the fella in the blue shirt, that is Bradley Knight. He' music arranger for the show.
So the next part of our day was a demo where we talked about the music for the. For the stage show, how it's been adapted and refreshed since the film. And then we got into the choreography and we learned the first eight bars of Zero to Hero.
You can see here. This is the Muses, or three of the Muses, anyways, giving us a live. So they taught it to us. Us. And we did our best, stumble through, and then they had the pros come out and show us what it's supposed to look like.
[00:38:36] Speaker A: That must have been a little bit humbling, I'm guessing.
[00:38:38] Speaker C: It really was. And not only are they doing the choreo that we learned, but they have even more. So the Muses are going to have these microphones. Like, you can see they have additional choreography for how they're, you know, working the mic stand and dancing around it. You know, we learned the basic moves. You know, arm goes up, arm goes. Goes up. Hip shake, hip shake, you know, but they're putting the whole body into it. They're upping the choreography.
[00:39:07] Speaker A: I love it. I also love that there are male Muses. I saw this in your posts as well as in some of the snippets that Disney released as well. But I love that the muses, I think, I don't know if it's five or six muses. I think there were five in the original in the animated film. But I love that it's a mix of men and women. I think that's fantastic.
[00:39:27] Speaker B: They're giving, for those of you who watched the live show last night, they're giving Ingrid a little run for her money on her sleigh there. Yeah, Danny, I wanted to ask because in this photo and the last photo, I, I know that there is, there's like another puppet there or another set piece there and I. We used it in the show art for this evening. What is that? Did they.
[00:39:48] Speaker C: I've got close up photos a little bit later on in the slide. We'll get to it. But. So this is. So now we're in a totally different rehearsal space. This room is a full size. This is a one to one space replica of the, the ship stage. So they've got the stage all taped out, you know, where the doors are, where the wings are, all of that. And what you're, what you're seeing little glimpses of in the background are the Titans. So again, if we remember the 97 film, you know, it starts off with the backstory about how, you know, Zeus beats back the Titans and locked them away. And then, you know, spoilers for a movie from the 90s, but Hades releases the Titans and Hercules has to defeat them.
So you're looking at parties, part of the puppetry that brings the Titans to life.
[00:40:37] Speaker B: Got it. Got it. Very cool.
[00:40:39] Speaker C: And I will, you know, when we get to those photos, I'll tell you all the cool things I learned about the Titans. Here's a better look. So here we've got the music director, Jeff. Excuse me, Bradley Knight in the blue shirt just beside him with the purple top. That is our actress.
Yeah, that is Megara. And then there we've got our five muses. A mix of men and women.
[00:41:01] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:41:03] Speaker C: So this, they were giving us a lovely demonstration where we were playing a snippet of the song from the film and then showing us how they've, you know, done new orchestrations, how they've refreshed the musical style.
These are all familiar. Everyone's gonna recognize the songs as soon as they come on. But they are, they're newer, they're brighter, they're, they're, they're more theatrical.
Bradley was telling us that Disney recorded with a 70 piece orchestra, these new arrangements for the songs from the mov.
So, you know, you recognize them. And those gospel influences are still there, but they're a little. They're brassier, they're bigger, They've got more of that music theater showiness to them.
[00:41:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And I think they've got a little more like funk influence infused in that as well, to kind of liven them up, at least from what I heard it seemed like, you know, to kind of liven up and modernize them just a slight bit that you. I think you're right. Absolutely. Still has those gospel roots, but it's. Yeah, sounds incredible. Incredible.
[00:42:08] Speaker C: The. Everyone was talking about, you know, the time period of the movie, the 90s, and a lot of those R B influences and adding that sort of character to the musicality.
Yeah.
Okay, so now we're looking at. So there are two featured, or at least we got to see two of the Titans. There's four in the film. I saw two puppets. I don't know how many total will be in the final stage adaptation.
This guy is about 9ft tall.
There is an actor fully inside.
You can see a little bit of. There's sort of a body harness right here.
[00:42:48] Speaker B: Backpack straps, kind of almost right there, it looks like. Exactly.
[00:42:51] Speaker C: And then the arms go inside the arms, the legs go inside the legs. Again, this is unfinished.
And so we got to watch sort of a blocking rehearsal so we could see how the Titans move around and we could see the human performer inside. In the stage version, they'll have like a chest piece and you won't see the puppeteer doing the work. But. So this one is the rock Titan. He's about nine feet tall. And then if you go to the next picture, it should be. This is the Ice Titan.
Key things, he's 13ft tall.
The actor inside, they told us, is on a 24 inch, like, platform. Stilt.
[00:43:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I was gonna say it's gotta be stilts. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Well, and these things have to be, of course, heavy as well. Are they going to have a rig kind of holding it from above as well because of the weight and the height of these, or is it going to be freestanding? Did they say.
[00:43:51] Speaker C: They didn't get into those specifics. They were telling us that a lot of the, you know, the material science that they use to make these puppets, the. The frames are largely carbon fiber, so while they are large, they are light.
This actually, actually the sort of exo suits, the framework that makes these work is something that Live Entertainment borrowed from Walt Disney Imagineering.
This is similar to how they brought the Hulk to Avengers campus.
And that was really cool hearing about these different parts of the Disney organization.
It's not like Walt Disney Imagineering set out to design a puppetry suit for Live Entertainment. But once they had it, somebody at Live Entertainment said, oh, that's really interesting. I wonder if we could work that into our show. And, and they get to collaborate and draw on these resources that they have.
[00:44:47] Speaker A: That is just so cool. These are incredible.
[00:44:50] Speaker B: What I really want to see now is I want to see behind the scenes of the actual stage on one of these ships because I can't even imagine where they store all this stuff. It's. This is massive.
[00:45:01] Speaker C: Me too, Brian. That is always one of my questions.
You know, I do know that stages have some trap door space below them.
They were showing us how they had taped out on the floor, you know, so they have the front edge of the stage taped out and they have where the wings on stage left and right are. But then there's also this sort of three section elevated trap door portion that they can move and lower independently.
So I do know that some pieces are stored below the stage, some pieces are stored in the wings.
But you're right, it's, you know, you think about cruise ships and like every square inch matters and has to be accounted for.
And then you've got these 13 foot tall puppets where, you know, so this one, he comes in multiple parts. You know, there's the upper torso, there's the legs, there's a, you know, so he gets disassembled. And.
[00:45:59] Speaker A: Don'T forget, this ship is going to have Seize the Adventure frozen and it's going to have Hercules. So we're not just talking about puppets for this one show. We're talking about puppets. Puppets and scenery and Pete, props and all of, and costumes for all of the shows, of course. And then think about all of the costuming for the characters that you see out and about on the ship. So if you think about the amount of storage space they have to have for entertainment alone, it is a huge amount and organization. Right. So I, I'm, I like you, I'm very curious how they organize things behind the scenes.
[00:46:37] Speaker B: You know, they kind of have, they probably have multiples of some things. I mean, if something breaks, they, they can't like, oh, well, you lost, we lost for the puppet. So no more show for a while. Right. Like they must have extras. I'm curious, did they talk to you all at all about like, what is what is unique in terms of preparing to put a show onto a ship.
[00:46:57] Speaker C: Almost verbatim. Brian, I asked that question.
Great minds.
[00:47:02] Speaker B: Great minds.
[00:47:03] Speaker C: Of course, of course. So there were two answers to that question. Because on the one hand, from a. From a creative point of view, putting these shows together is no different than a show on land. Whether it's in Toronto or New York or, you know, you go through the rehearsals and the vision and all of that stuff, that's all totally the same. But you're right, performing on a cruise ship, there are, you know, peculiarities. There are space constraints, the ship is moving, there might be rocky seas, all of that. They didn't get into too many specifics. They did let us know that there is a B mode, if you will, for some of the larger special effects in the event of inclement weather.
But the intention is for the show to run and for it to still be, you know, the full experience for the guest. But they do, you know, they have to rehearse two modes of choreography. If a big set piece can't function for safety reasons.
[00:48:04] Speaker A: I've seen that happen on Seize the Adventure. In particular, there's a scene where Tiana walks across a series of chairs. I've seen the show in B mode where instead of walking across the stairs or the chairs, she walked just across the stage. So there are modifications. They make, for example, Peter Pan, who is on wires right now, I believe it's Disney dreams. Right. And so is Anne Marie in a lot of scenes. And so they have, as you mentioned, AB mode where they're not on those controls and they're flying around on their feet. Right. So there are things that they ways they can alter. But it's harder with puppetry like this. Absolutely, for sure.
[00:48:50] Speaker C: And I mean, that is part of what I love so much about live theater is they have to be adaptable. Things can change in the moment, you know, and you rely on the actors. So maybe they can't do the flying stunt, but it's up to that actor to, you know, make you believe that they are still, you know, flying across the stage, even if their feet are on the ground. And that's one of those things that I think is so special about live theater.
So this, so we, after our hands on portion of the day, this photo that we're looking at, this group, these are the lovely Disney executives. We have people here who are show creatives, people who manage the Toronto facility, people who are PR spokespeople for DCL in general.
And we had our sort of Roundtable table discussion where we got to pepper them with questions like how do you prepare for doing a ship, a show on at sea? And any other questions that we could think of.
It was a really like, it was such a lovely day.
Everyone you can tell is so excited to be a part of this.
You know, the. The atmosphere in the rehearsal studio in Toronto is really. It's jovial, it's excited because these are people who are. They're having fun at work. They're getting to, you know, play make believe with their favorite charact. They're getting to bring things to stage, bring things to reality that they've seen in their mind, you know, and it was really. It was a. It was a nice group of people to talk to.
[00:50:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I love that. You know, I have another question, which is, of course, did they give you any sneak peek as to what's next in terms of the. The next ship that's coming out? Of course, it's not until, you know, 2027, but. But you might be able to say yes, but not be able to answer further than that. But I'm just curious if they, if they gave you. I bet you can't give it any answer to our audience as far as what they showed you, if anything. But did they.
[00:50:46] Speaker C: So we got a look at the adventure that was the most concrete into the future that we talked about. Seeing the cast for the adventure, seeing that Aladdin number, seeing that, remember number.
I can say that cruise is a big focus for Disney right now. You know, they've got all these plans for new ships hitting the water. We've got two ships coming online this year by I think, 2031. Do I have that right? Is the target date where the fleet's going to grow up to 13?
So they didn't get into too much concrete. You know, there was a lot of blue sky discussion. But it's clear that cruise is an important part moving forward for the company. Yep, yep.
This photo that we're looking at. So this is Corey. He is our Hercules for the show.
This was a separate event. This was at the spring in Florida where they introduced Cory and we all got to hear him sing.
He sang Go the Distance and frankly, he. He brought the house down.
[00:51:49] Speaker B: Now, was he. Was he. Was he not. Was he not at this rehearsal space, though?
[00:51:54] Speaker C: He was there.
[00:51:55] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:51:56] Speaker A: With the titans that you have that you made the show Art. Brian, that picture is actually. Is Corey with the.
[00:52:02] Speaker B: Oh, right, right, right.
This one? Yeah.
[00:52:04] Speaker C: Yes, this one. I didn't get the opportunity to. To interview Corey or anything. But we did watch. So the full number that we saw them do. So like full cast, not full costumes because like you can see in this photo, you know, they're rehearsing and very rudimentary. They've got some of the props, but like the muses were all. They wear gold colored T shirts so you know that they're the muses. And Hercules has got his red T shirt. But we saw the full choreo, the full presentation of Zero to Hero and it was unreal. And like I was standing. We weren't even in chairs. We were just in the rehearsal room and they've got the stage taped out on the floor. I was, you know, six inches away from, from Hercules and from Phil. When they're, you know, right up at the front doing their big numbers, you know, people were sort of scooching back to make sure we didn't get interfere with any of the dancers. It was really, really magical.
[00:53:02] Speaker A: And. And Corey J. Bradford, who is Hercules one on Destiny. Cast one is incredible. What an incredible performer.
It's like the actress they brought on for Moana for Tale of Moana.
I'm not saying that Hercules 2 and Hercules 3 won't be incredible performers, but they always, they spend probably the most time and investment in making sure that opening cast is just phenomenal. And so all of these folks are going to be Broadway quality actors. Some of them who have actually come from Broadway or the West End or national tours, but they're all going to be of that caliber. Just like I would say across the fleet, frankly, Disney does a great job of. I would say the vast majority of their cast are Broadway quality actors. Not necessarily every single person, but as I said, the vast majority. But this cast is going to be phenomenal. And you can tell that just from the snippets that you all released on your Instagram and that Disney Cruise Line released on their Instagram as well.
[00:54:09] Speaker C: Yeah, it really is special. You're absolutely right. You know, Disney has the resources and the desire to do these massive talent searches, you know, because they want to find just the right people. Because these stories are important.
We talked about this in our group discussion. If you think about the cruise ships and how precious the space is and they devote so much of that space to live entertainment. The shows have to be top quality. Right? If, you know, because you could do other types of entertainment, you could turn it into other guest spaces. But Disney dedicates this large portion on all the ships to, at least for the guests, a space that's only used A few hours a day. So it's got to be worth it. It's got to be top quality.
[00:54:57] Speaker A: Absolutely. And that's. And to me, I mean, we had our show talking about Virgin Voyages, just, you know, what was that a week ago now, Brian?
And this is the difference, right? Like, I'm not. Virgin does a wonderful job with entertainment, but it's a different style of entertainment. They don't focus on their stage shows. And so Disney, like, sets itself apart because every aspect of their entertainment is incredible. And the showcase, I think, is the stage shows. That's, like, number one of their entertainment.
[00:55:28] Speaker B: But be careful. I don't think it's that Virgin doesn't focus on their stages. They have a different one. The space is very different. Their state, their. Their main stage theater is like a third to a quarter of the size of the Walt Disney Theater. No set dressing to speak of, you know, none of the ornate kind of paneling.
[00:55:47] Speaker A: That's what I mean. I'm just saying that.
[00:55:48] Speaker B: But. Yeah, but hold on. But they're putting on a show for an adult audience. That's you in a different frame of mind than perhaps a typical Disney guest, you know, and so. And they've got so much going on around the ship. They, they. I think, to Danny's point, which is a good one, they've reclaimed a lot of that space to do other things with. And so the shows are smaller and they're, you know, that sort of thing. But I still think they put on, like, a quality product. It is not a Broadway quality show at either.
[00:56:13] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. I'm saying that that's what people. I mean, people like me and. And others go to Disney for expecting this Broadway quality show. And so we understand that they're gonna take up a lot of that space for this theater and for the backstage and dedicated to this kind of entertainment. And to me, Disney sets itself apart in that commitment.
[00:56:40] Speaker C: We heard this remark many times from the DCL execs that we spoke to that the Walt Disney Theater is the crown jewel of the Disney ships. They're very proud of the shows that they put on there, of how beautiful the space is. And, you know, we talked about that. I think is. Is really unique is if you think about the audience of Disney, which doesn't exclusively cater to families, but many people are sailing with families with young children.
This, for a lot of families, might be their first experience to this kind of live theater. And what's nice is, you know, sometimes theater can be intimidating. You, you know, Is this appropriate for my kids? Will they be able to sit in their seat? Will they, you know, understand the etiquette of the theater? But I. But on Disney, they want you to dance. They want you to cheer for your favorite characters. It's very casual. It's very, you know, the quality on stage is top notch, but the theater experience is much more adaptable, you know, to families, especially families with littler ones.
But this is a great entry point for them into the world of live theater.
[00:57:46] Speaker A: Yeah. I will tell you, my favorite place in the entire world is in the Walt Disney Theater on any Disney Cruise Line ship that I'm on. So if I could transport myself in any given moment to one space, that's where it would be. I'd be sitting watching Moana or Beauty and the Beast or Frozen or Tangled. And so I love that they gave you this sneak peek, Dani. I think it's incredible. It's an incredible opportunity.
I will confess I'm very jealous that you got this opportunity, but I don't begrudge it. You and Stephanie have worked so hard, hard, and you've put out such a great product with. With all of the magazines. We're so thankful for our partnership with you all. Of course, you know, tell folks if they want to get one of the magazines or all of the magazines, digital versions, print versions. Where should they go?
[00:58:39] Speaker C: Our home on the web is wdw-magazine.com you will find our Walt Disney World magazine that comes out 12 times a year, every month. Our DLR magazine that's publishing quarter right now. We've got the first issue of our. Of our Disney cruise special that's available. We've got wall calendars, all kinds of great Disney stuff.
You know, we are a company of people that love Disney and want to tell stories, want to get deeper and more involved in the magical things that are happening. And we try to bring that to life through stellar products.
And if you want to find any of our digital, our print products, all of our social media media channels, wdw-magazine.com that's our home base.
[00:59:28] Speaker D: Amazing.
[00:59:28] Speaker B: Well, Danny, thank you so much for taking some time out of your day. I know you've got some travel planned tomorrow, but thank you for spending some time with us today. And for everyone out there watching or listening after the fact, if you're listening after the fact, I'm just gonna say it again. Head to YouTube to watch this episode because there's some great visuals of what you can expect to see on stage on the Destiny for Hercules. So Head over there. Watch, watch the show.
Of course, if you just listen, we appreciate you too.
For everyone out there, we will be back on Monday night regular time slot. One more time. We'll just let folks know. 5:30pm Pacific, 8:30pm Eastern with our friend Doug Parker from Cruise News. Today we're talking about the cruise industry in general a little bit. And then as we indicated last night, mark your calendars. We got a special show next Friday. We'll be live. We can't talk about what it's going to be or who our guests guess is, but we're excited. So we will be back next Friday, time time tbd. But you'll see some promos for it coming out and yeah. So mark your calendars next Friday for another special live episode.
[01:00:29] Speaker A: Yeah, so we got, it's like, it's kind of like in and out. We've got a double double, I'll call it a double double duo dip. How about that?
[01:00:38] Speaker C: There we go.
[01:00:38] Speaker B: There you go. Thanks once again, man. Safe travels tomorrow. We really, really appreciate, appreciate it.
[01:00:43] Speaker C: Thank you both. This was so much fun. I love talking crews and you guys are just the best. And thank you for having me.
[01:00:50] Speaker B: All right, see you later.
[01:00:51] Speaker A: Right back at you.
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[01:02:58] Speaker B: Good night.
