[00:00:00] Speaker A: The treasure, she's new, she's beautiful. Like that's like that meme of like the guy looking over his shoulder like, well, I don't know, the treasure is pretty nice.
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And to Sarah's point, we have some great guests today, so today is no exception. We are going to relive their seven night cruise on the beautiful and wonderful Disney treasure. We're so happy to welcome back to the show from their very own podcast, Adventures and Mousecapades. Nathan and Alicia. Welcome back guys. Thank you.
[00:02:01] Speaker E: Hello.
[00:02:02] Speaker D: Yeah, it's so good to have you guys back. We're just chit chatting, of course, before we started recording because we live in the same area. We're talking about, you know, spring break plans and all that good stuff.
But we're going to talk about a cruise you guys took in February of this year over the President's Day week. But before we dive into talking about that cruise, let's listen.
You guys have a podcast, you cover all things Disney. You like to cover different experiences across the Disney landscape. But why don't you tell Our audience, your cruising credentials and kind of your general Disney background.
[00:02:40] Speaker E: Cruising credentials. Well, this was our 18th. Sorry, this was my 18th Disney cruise again.
[00:02:49] Speaker D: That's right.
[00:02:51] Speaker A: Alicia's plus two on me 16th.
[00:02:53] Speaker D: Yep.
[00:02:55] Speaker E: We started cruising in 2009, I think was the first one on the Magic. And we're instantly hooked and have done a variety since then. And I think for Disney, I'd gone to the parks maybe once when I was little. And we really just started our journey in 2009 with Our Land and sea cruise and parks tour.
[00:03:17] Speaker A: Yep. Our daughter was four and a half at the time. That was kind of the perfect entree into that whole world of Disney. I did.
You know, I remember Disney Channel on the, you know, cable when that first was a thing. I think our local Disney or our local cable system would carry the Disney Channel, but wouldn't carry MTV because it was too controversial back in the time when MTV actually played music. Oh, my gosh. Hi. I'm old.
[00:03:44] Speaker D: Yeah, you're our contemporaries with us, Nathan.
[00:03:47] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
And we, we never really had a ton of travel budget in my family and so it was usually family visits to Cape Cod or wherever just to see family. And so my first actual visit to Disney was Disney World with magic music days back in 92, I think it was.
And yeah, I was instantly hooked. I mean, I knew the movies already, but there was something about coming around the flag circle in the parade. We came out and from behind the firehouse came around the circle and then I'm playing in the marching band and the drum line and then you hit Main street and the castle's right there in front of you. And I was instantly Disney hooked and it was great. It was unfortunate, it took another many years to get back, but we jumped in. Like Alicia was saying, we had our next week long Eastern Caribbean cruise on. I think it was the Wonder or the Magic, I forget which one was doing the weeks, but we did the land and sea package. We were on the first night and by the next morning we were at the booking desk and had a cruise booked. It was instant.
[00:05:01] Speaker D: That was so. That was so similar to us. We, we were mid cruise, at least I don't know if it was night two, but mid cruise on our first seven night Eastern Caribbean on the Fantasy. We were booking our next cruise, seven night Eastern Caribbean on the Fantasy.
[00:05:17] Speaker E: So yeah, we knew we had found something special.
[00:05:19] Speaker D: Yep, exactly. That cruise bug just, just gets you. Well, let's, let's dive into to talking about your cruise on the Treasure. Let's start with why you chose this particular sailing, this particular itinerary. Was it just we need to get onto the Treasure and this is the week that works or is it. Was there some other calculus going on?
[00:05:42] Speaker E: It was pretty much that nailed it. We wanted to get on the Treasure. Yeah. We wanted to get on the Treasure. And we were going around school schedule for Sterling, for our son.
And that was midwinter break, President's day week. And we had the week off. And it fit perfectly in the schedule. The Saturday to Saturday cruise.
[00:06:02] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:06:02] Speaker A: And we're wanted to. We wanted to do the Maiden but we just couldn't swing that.
[00:06:07] Speaker D: Yeah. Remind us how old Sterling is. And then. Did your daughter come with you? I know she's in college. Mm.
[00:06:13] Speaker E: Sterling is 13 and our daughter did not come with us because she did not have the time off. So no cruise for her.
[00:06:23] Speaker A: No. But we did cruise with our best friend. So there's two other couples, adults, no kids with either of those folks. So we had a big group that we were. Well, fairly large group that we were cruising along with. And Sterling always goes and finds new friends at the kids clubs and stuff like that. So we had Sterling with us. But it was very much kind of an adults focused cruise. We kind of got our own. Our own thing to do. So it was pretty great.
[00:06:50] Speaker D: Yeah. That we have found just in the last few cruises. That's the way. That's what happens with. With us with Nathan. Like now our Nathan. Obviously not you Nathan.
But yeah, he at now that he's 11 and he goes to Edge and he really likes that experience and loves the independence that we end up being able to. We have a lot more freedom of what we want to do.
Not that we don't want to spend time as a family, but we can do some adult things or hang out in some adult areas that we maybe didn't used to be able to spend as much time in. We might have been able to go, you know, one night to one of the bars on board. And now it's like if we want to sit in one of the bars on board after dinner, we can do that pretty much every night. Because Nathan's running from dinner to Edge. Yeah.
[00:07:37] Speaker B: So yeah, he's coming in after we've gone to bed because he's like midnight. Hope you had a good time, buddy.
[00:07:44] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[00:07:44] Speaker D: Yeah. We're in bed watching Zootopia and he's coming back to the room.
[00:07:50] Speaker A: We had to have a conversation on this trip. The first night he came back, we were already I think asleep. And he'd let the door slam and then slam the door for the bathroom. And I didn't. I didn't say anything at the time, but I woke up in the next morning. I'm like, I'm glad you had a lot of fun. However, when you come in, don't wake us up.
[00:08:11] Speaker D: Yeah, don't slam the door.
[00:08:12] Speaker A: Come in, don't slam the door.
[00:08:14] Speaker D: Yeah, love that. All right, well, let's. Let's dive into. To talking about the. The pre boarding sub. Pre booking. Right. Like, booking. You know, were there things that you wanted to book ahead of time and if so, what were they? And were you able to. I mean, you're obviously in the. You have platinum castaway status, so you're not the first group, you know. Well, the first group is concierge, but you're not the first group of castaway club status. That's Pearl, but you're the second group. So. Yeah, I mean, that's pretty. I would say generally pretty good booking status, except for like a cabana. Right? That's pretty much. We know, but we know for cabanas, they're not even available to Pearl, like anymore. That now it's just. It's really just concierge. And unless you're just randomly lucky and get on the app when somebody happens to drop one. So. Yeah, tell us what you. What you were looking or trying to book and whether that was successful.
[00:09:07] Speaker E: Yeah, definitely. So we had tied all of our reservations together with our friends.
I think everybody's platinum at this point, though, if I remember correctly.
[00:09:17] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:09:17] Speaker E: So we wanted to get.
[00:09:19] Speaker D: That makes it way easier, by the way.
Then everyone can be trying to book things at the same time.
And if you. And you can book things together, it's very. It's such a pain if you're different castaway club status than your friends in a different room, because then you can't book with the same.
[00:09:39] Speaker A: Right. And we're west coast, so we can be at 9 o'. Clock. And we actually took all of that. Like, what are the things you guys want to do? And so, like, we booked like an enchante dinner for our good friends Bill and Rachel. And like, we got the Palo reservations for all of us and stuff like that.
Um, I think the only ones we had trouble with, honestly, were some of the tastings. Like, those went really fast.
And I agree, like, it's usually when you're platinum, you can kind of get everything except for these really busy holiday weeks.
Like the ship gets really slammed with some. We'll call them more senior Level cruisers and not necessarily an age, but just an experience. And it was slim pickings on. On some of those experiences.
[00:10:29] Speaker E: We wanted to do chocolate and liquor. That is one of our favorite tastings. And we were able to get chocolate and liquor for four people, not six people. So we did that. I also was able to get Prima Note, which we have never done before. And we were very excited to try this on this cruise. We heard from listening to you two about this and we're like, okay, we gotta try it. So we booked that. We booked. Also booked Apollo Brunch and Apollo Dinner.
And I don't think we did any other tastings. It was just the chocolate and liquor.
[00:11:01] Speaker D: Yeah. What was your strategy for what night or nights to book dinners? Adult dinners, Whether that's Enchante or Palo Pirate Night.
[00:11:14] Speaker E: That is our strategy. We are not huge fans of the pirate menu, so that was what we tried to do for Palo Dinner.
Our friends that wanted Enchante, they had a specific night. I think they wanted. I don't know what their.
What their reasoning was. They just wanted a specific night. Oh, it was Coco. They wanted to make sure that it wasn't on cocoa night, I believe.
[00:11:36] Speaker D: Ah, okay. So did you request then a specific dining rotation in order to make that happen?
[00:11:43] Speaker A: No, we were ready to switch dining or request a switch. We do late dining, so it's kind of the world, your oyster in terms of. I mean, they're not guaranteed, but you're more apt to get a change if you need. And our three restaurant hit was Worlds of Marvel.
So we'll just say lots of skippable opportunities for dinner and not to feel bad about that.
[00:12:09] Speaker D: That's funny. Yeah, I think it's, you know, people ask us all the time, like, we always. We tend to choose adult dining on Pirate Night. I know others have, you know, maybe a different strategy because they really enjoy Pirate Night. And if you have a longer adult dinner, you may actually miss the deck party and the fireworks. Just kind of depends on what time. If you schedule, you know, a later dinner at Enchante or even at Paulo, you. You might actually miss the. This deck party and the fireworks.
So if you're going to do it on Pirate Night, either just know that or, you know, book it a little on the earlier side. Right. So it's just strategizing, I think, that people should think about ahead of time. And then the other issue is if we end up wanting to do two adult dinners. Right. And do maybe one at Enchante and one at Palo or Remy and Paulo or on Dream or Fantasy, then we have. We're having to miss a rotational dining night. So we might request a specific dining rotation so that we can ensure or try to ensure that we don't miss a particular dinner show or menu that we want to hit. So just a tip for those listening, you can do these things and you can request. I think, Nathan, your point is really well taken. On board, you can request a switch if you realize when you know that something you had booked conflicts with a dinner, a rotational dining experience you don't want to miss.
But that's easier to do if you're in late dining, which tends to be not as heavily subscribed as early dining. Early dining is much harder to make any changes or to either to change to early dining or to switch within early dining. So let's. Let's jump into talking about. Obviously you guys are in the Seattle area, so you're flying all the way to mco. To fly is out of Port Canaveral. The treasure is only selling out of Port Canaveral. So we. We know you're not going to Port Everglades. When did you guys get there? Get down to the Orlando area and where did you all stay?
[00:14:06] Speaker E: We flew in the day before on Valentine's Day, and we stayed at Animal Kingdom Lodge at Kidani Village. No. Was it Jambo House?
[00:14:16] Speaker A: I think we were at Jambo House.
[00:14:17] Speaker E: We were at Jambo House. The main one.
[00:14:19] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah.
[00:14:20] Speaker D: Nice. And what was the transportation plan to get down to the port?
[00:14:25] Speaker E: We took Disney cruise transportation.
[00:14:28] Speaker A: Yeah, it's just super convenient. And there were a lot of other people at Animal Kingdom Lodge that were doing the same thing. They actually had two buses worth of folks from that location for us. And we were on the first bus.
We checked in with them about 9 o' clock in the morning. I think we were on the bus by 9:30. We got to the port, you know, maybe about 10:40 or so, breezed right through security and all the rest of the check in, we got, you know, the random assigned boarding group. We were number four and we were literally like on the ship before noon. So it was really smooth sailing. That's pun intended.
[00:15:11] Speaker D: Yeah. Yeah. But that's awesome. Like, we keep hearing really great things about people's recent experiences with Disney transportation, either from the airport at the MCO Hyatt or a Disney resort on property. So I will tell people, just a reminder out there, like, make sure whatever transportation you booked is the right one. Because there are. Like I said, there's basically there's three different options out there. A specific Disney resort hotel is one option.
The airport is another option. And then the airport Hyatt is a third option. It's not the same transportation as booking, just the regular airport. So. So make sure to book the correct one. All right, well, you, you guys have, as you mentioned, smooth sailing. Check in process goes super fast. You're on board before noon.
What's your embarkation day lunch tradition?
[00:16:04] Speaker E: We like a sit down lunch.
I know you can go up to like Cabanas or Marceline Market, but we like to go to one of the rotational dining places for lunch. So we weren't sure where it was. It was the cocoa restaurant.
And before we did that, we looked around the ship a little bit first.
[00:16:25] Speaker A: That first impression of the treasure is stunning. It's really, really good.
And we were, I think the second people waiting. Like, I think we were in the lobby for a few minutes and then went over towards Skipper Society and we wanted to just peek in Haunted Mansion and they opened the doors at noon and we had like a two minute wait and got to peek in really, when nobody was there. So that was pretty awesome. And then we spent just a couple of minutes there and then went up and, and found Coco and yeah, that was, that was really impressive. I was. The beef empanadas and everything else was great.
A welcome addition to the food offerings on the ship for sure.
[00:17:08] Speaker D: Yeah, we love that too. We love that sit down lunch, whether it's in cocoa on the Treasure or in one of the, you know, in Tiana's on the Wonder. It's just like a really nice, I think a really nice relaxing way. Of course it's slower, it takes more time and so if you're somebody who wants to get, go around and explore a lot that first day, then yeah, it's going to eat into that time. But I think it's a, I think it's a really relaxing way and much less crazy than a Cabanas or Marceline market experience.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, this was Eastern Caribbean, am I correct, or was this Western? Eastern. Okay, awesome. Of course, the best itinerary.
Let's talk about the ports first. And then of course the treasure. She's the star. The ship is the star. So let's talk a little bit about ports and what you did in each port and then we'll jump back on board, pun intended, to the ship as well. So you would have gone to Tortola and St. Thomas and of course Castaway Cay.
Am I right in the order?
[00:18:14] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:18:15] Speaker D: All right. Okay. So let's.
I never remember if it's tortola first or St. Thomas first. That's the one thing I sometimes get wrong. So let's. Tortola. Did you book a Disney excursion? Did you venture out on your own? What did you guys get up to?
[00:18:30] Speaker E: We did not book a Disney excursion. We actually found a charter group. Oh, I don't know. It was years and years and years ago, just from looking on forums and such.
And we booked a private charter with Aristocat Charters. And I think this is maybe the third or fourth time that we've gone with them. We just love them so much.
We booked the entire boat and there was just seven us. Seven of us, I think on there.
[00:18:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it was going to be 10. We also had some friends locally who were on the cruise with us. They were going to come with and then they forgot that they were going to do that. And so they had booked like zip lining or something like that. And so their family split up and we had one extra person with us. So eight. Don't forget Sterling.
[00:19:17] Speaker E: Oh, yeah.
[00:19:18] Speaker A: So, yeah, yeah, we have.
[00:19:19] Speaker B: We have a son.
[00:19:22] Speaker A: But it was. Yeah, it was fantastic.
We get to just go out, sail around. It was beautiful weather, great breeze, gawk at some of the other mega yachts that are around, go do some epic snorkeling.
We swam ashore and had lunch at this resort right on the beach.
And yeah, it was just. It was a gorgeous day. It was awesome. Yeah.
[00:19:47] Speaker D: Was this mostly spent at like the Jos. Van Dyke then? Because obviously that's right off of Tortola. Or were you mostly like at the island of Tortola?
[00:19:56] Speaker A: No, it's.
I cannot remember the name of the little island.
It's the other direction from.
It's east of Roadtown where the ship docks.
Yep. It's just blown right out of my brain.
[00:20:12] Speaker D: That's okay. One of these other small islands just off of Tortola. That's one of the nice things about these private charters. We did one.
[00:20:19] Speaker B: Wait, not charters, Not Jos. Van Dyke?
[00:20:21] Speaker D: No, that's what. It wasn't just Van Dyke. It was one of the other islands. That's right there. Was it.
Was it Norman Island?
[00:20:28] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:20:29] Speaker D: Oh, is it Norman Island? Yeah, that's where we swam with the sea turtles. Yeah.
[00:20:32] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:20:33] Speaker D: That's like the. That's one of the. One of the.
It's not great for snorkeling for other fish. The part where we were.
But it was great for snorkeling with sea turtles specifically. And then I know there are other spots that are great for snorkeling with fish.
[00:20:50] Speaker A: There's some caves that we got to snorkel around in. There was a rock formation kind of out in the middle of the channel that we stopped off in.
I mean, snorkeling we're going to use with a very kind of loose air quotes around, I would say it was a lot of floating around, just enjoying the company of all of our friends and having the captain and mate on the sailboat toss us beers. And it was great.
[00:21:18] Speaker D: Yeah. Pretty nice. Yeah. Well, and. And typically, you know, a lot of these charters, you have to look at what they include and what they don't include. But most of them include drinks for the day. Right. Like, not necessarily every kind of drink you can imagine, but a selection of beer and wine or maybe some hard ciders. So some soft drinks. And they might even include like a rum punch. That's pretty common, obviously, in the Caribbean. And then there are some that include lunch. Ours. Ours didn't. And I know yours didn't include lunch. Right. You got off to go have lunch someplace. But you're obviously.
[00:21:50] Speaker A: Well, that was our choice. They actually would provide lunch.
And there's two other locations. There's.
Alicia, remind me the name of that ship. That's the restaurant.
[00:22:01] Speaker E: I don't know. There's a. There's a. Like a pirate ship where you can dock and have lunch and have lunch on the ship.
[00:22:08] Speaker D: That's.
[00:22:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Or. And then we decided to swim into like this. This little private resort that is in this bay over by Norman island and. And have kind of a nice. A fancier lunch there.
[00:22:20] Speaker E: Yeah, last time we did this charter, we. Yeah, last time we did this charter, I just remembered the name. We did stop at Willie T's, which was the. The lunch place. Yeah. But this time we did actually went on shore.
[00:22:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:31] Speaker D: Awesome. Awesome. Well, let's. How long was this charter? Actually.
[00:22:37] Speaker A: It was probably 7ish hours. 6. 7 hours, something like that.
[00:22:42] Speaker D: So pretty much. Pretty much the whole day that you're in Tortola. All right, well, let's talk about St. Thomas. What was the plan and what'd you guys do for St. Thomas?
[00:22:54] Speaker E: Let's see. The only excursion we had planned was for Tortola. We didn't have anything else planned for St. Thomas or for Cassoway. St. Thomas we'd been to before and we had done. It was like a tour of the city and then a pirate museum tour. And we were not impressed with that tour last time we did it. So we're like, we just won't do anything this time. We'll walk around if we want to. I don't know what it is about that island, but it is ridiculously hot on that island. I don't know why it's different from the other ones, but I just, like, melt when I go outside there.
[00:23:30] Speaker A: Yeah, there are. I think, the pro tip we just had somebody ask.
Ask us about, like, what to do on. On St. Thomas. Just the.
And I was refreshing and looking at all the Disney options. I will say the ones that include, like, hey, you could go see Blackbeard's castle. It's not as cool as you think it is or what they want you to think it is. It's literally, hey, you're driving by this place. It's behind a gate with a long driveway. It's private. You can't go in, but you drive by on the road, hey, look at that house. So just temper your expectations.
There is a fantastic restaurant, though, kind of the end. At the end of that shopping district, like, right at the. At the port that we like going and hanging out in. And so we did get off the ship and have lunch. We also needed to get a ring resized. This is part of our 25th anniversary kind of celebration.
And so we got a. Got a new ring for Alicia and had to get that resized there on shore. So we had a couple things to do, but it was really, you know, Tortola. Whenever we're there, we're sailing with Aristocat the rest of this trip. We wanted to enjoy the treasure.
[00:24:45] Speaker D: Yeah. Well, and tell us, what's the restaurant you go to? What's the pro tip for the restaurant?
[00:24:51] Speaker A: I knew you were gonna ask this in our.
[00:24:54] Speaker E: Yeah, it's. Oh, it's all the way at the end.
[00:24:58] Speaker D: I mean, I know there's a Chinese restaurant. I've heard good things about that.
[00:25:01] Speaker A: No, this is not that one. No, this is like a burger joint and bar.
[00:25:10] Speaker D: That's. All right. Maybe. Maybe it'll pop into your head as we're talking.
[00:25:14] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll find it.
[00:25:15] Speaker D: Yeah. It's probably near the Chinese place, though, because the Chinese place is towards the end of that shopping district. Like, if you were to. If you had to walk from where, like, the parking lot is, which is where, like, the buses might drop you. Drop you off, usually after an excursion, like a Disney excursion, if you're going to Megan's Bay beach is the one that we tend to do.
And so you. You pass by, like, all they. They drop you off there because they're forced to make you walk past all of the stores, basically.
Exactly. Yeah.
[00:25:44] Speaker A: There's strategy.
[00:25:45] Speaker D: Yeah. And so, like, I know that we passed. I noticed the last time because our. Our friend Alan had told us about the. The Chinese place because we were there on Christmas Day last time and as well. Or was it Christmas Eve? I can't remember. It was Christmas Eve or Christmas Day, and I'm Jewish. And of course, there's a tradition of Jews eating Chinese food on. On Christmas. And so he was giving me the tip, like, hey, if you want to go get your Chinese fix. We didn't go, but because we were busy doing.
[00:26:13] Speaker B: Is it possibly called the tap and still?
[00:26:16] Speaker E: It is.
[00:26:16] Speaker A: It is.
[00:26:18] Speaker E: It's the tap and still. Yeah.
[00:26:20] Speaker B: Thank you, Chat.
[00:26:21] Speaker C: GPT.
[00:26:21] Speaker D: Yeah.
Well, I mean, if we have enough time, maybe we'll have to check it out for, you know, a burger, beer.
[00:26:31] Speaker B: I can't. I can't eat that much on a cruise seat.
[00:26:33] Speaker D: I know, I know. This is the. This is the problem.
[00:26:36] Speaker B: Let's just add in more meals.
[00:26:37] Speaker D: I know. There's so much.
[00:26:38] Speaker E: Their burgers are great, though.
[00:26:40] Speaker D: Yeah, but there's so much good food on the ship. It's like. There is, you know, but we all. We always end up eating. You know, if we go to Megan's Bay beach, we always end up eating lunch there, at least, because you're there in the middle of the day and you're, you know, you're gonna get hungry and whatnot. But. All right, well, let's talk about Castaway. Castaway is always a great time. I know you guys have been there a ton of times. In fact, we were talking about how you're. You're itching to get to Lookout Key because you haven't been there yet, but. Yeah. What did you guys plan for Castaway?
[00:27:10] Speaker E: So I was going to do morning yoga with my two friends, and unfortunately, I wasn't feeling super great that morning. So I bowed out of Castaway and Sterling and I spent the day on the ship.
But Nathan went to Castaway.
[00:27:24] Speaker A: I did.
I went off with our other two couple friends. We really just kind of parked ourselves over at the. At the. The Castaway bar.
The Castaway air bar, I think it is out at Serenity Bay there on the deck. It was a pretty breezy day, but it was just gorgeous and we really just relaxed.
All of the kind of shore excursions were largely canceled because it was just really windy and choppy. I was actually wondering if we were going to make it in, but we are, knock on wood.
So far like 1,100% on our castaway actual being able to dock every time we've gone. So I think that's kind of a miracle listening to everybody else who's been on your podcast. But we have good luck. But, yeah, it was just an incredibly relaxing day. Not having a ton to do. Had lunch out there.
Yeah, it was just a very, very chill day.
[00:28:25] Speaker E: The captain did give a warning, I guess you would call it the night before. Like, we're going to try our best, but.
But it might not happen.
[00:28:34] Speaker B: I feel like they should just put an asterisk on Castaway key sailings that just say we will try our best. And we can't make guarantees because, like, the amount of times they can't dock, it's not infrequent that they can't dock there, if that makes sense. And it just is what it is. They can't control the weather and you get all these people upset about it and it's like, you know, it happens. The stuff, stuff, stuff happens.
[00:28:55] Speaker A: Do they have better luck at Lookout, from what you've heard?
[00:28:59] Speaker B: I thought that they would, but they've, you know, they've had to miss docking at Lookout. I mean, the way they set up the pier, I thought the wind was kind of blowing the ship into the pier. It's also not like as. It's not like as narrow a channel, it doesn't look like. And they have the option to, like, dock like, on either side. And so, you know, but they have missed a few.
But it's not like, you know, the other complaint about Lookout is all the pier. But like, without the pier, they'd probably have less success because you'd be tendering and the tender boats would just be. They wouldn't be able to support.
[00:29:28] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:29:28] Speaker B: So.
[00:29:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:29] Speaker D: Oh, people would be throwing up on the tender boats.
[00:29:33] Speaker B: If it gets to that point. They usually just don't tender.
[00:29:35] Speaker D: Well, that's true everywhere. Yeah. Because everybody transferring from the ship to the tender, that's where there's. Right. There's always a danger with people transferring from one boat to the other in, you know, heavy, heavy weight.
[00:29:47] Speaker A: So I do want to mention that about Castaway, just to add on, you know, we do. Did take a look at. Since we were over at Serenity, all of the new cabanas that are being built and they're. They're. They're making some really good progress. So this was mid February, I would imagine. You know, there's not a lot to those cabanas, so I would imagine they'll be Online sometime later this year. There's also a huge, kind of a more cinder block building. I'm guessing it's going to be either a food venue or some merch or something like that.
Yeah, well, no, it's bigger than just some restrooms, but I mean, I'm sure there will be restrooms there. But there's a lot going on there in Serenity or on Castaway. I'm interested. Like, I know Disney hasn't said anything officially, but I did some counting out of our pictures and there's like 20, 23 or so different cabanas that are there. Do you think that it's gonna be another, like, family accessible area for cabanas? Because that's a lot for just adults only.
[00:30:52] Speaker D: Yeah, I think it's going to be. There's, I think there's going to be a split. Right. Like, I think they're probably going to be half of them. Like the first half, that's the ones that we like. So let's say if there's 20, right, then the 10 that are closer to the, or closest to the family beach cabanas that are there, those will be the family ones and then the other ones, you know, so it'll be like once you hit number whatever, you'll be at the, at the Serenity Bay. So I do think there'll be a dividing and it wouldn't, it might seem surprising to some because it cast away. The cabanas are right now very separate, meaning the serenity from the family beach. But that's not how they are at Lookout. Well, I mean, they're separate. The cabanas are, but the beaches are not separate. Right. Like Serenity Bay beach is right next to the family beach at Lookout Key. And so, you know, they have like a dividing line and maybe they'll put a rope or something to delineate that separation. But me, I, I feel like they're, they might end up being relatively close and they might have like bathrooms or something in between. Right. Like there may be some structure or lifeguard stand, whatever, something in between, but I don't think, I think they'll be a lot closer than they have been in the past. That would be my guess because I, I, I can't imagine that they would all be serenity or all be family. That just doesn't make any sense. Right. Just logistically, because there's demand at both places. And there, I would say in general, demand is for the family beach.
[00:32:26] Speaker A: Oh, agreed. What was in the back of my head was just taking that whole Thing from. And using the. The. The bar there at Serenity Bay as that break. And then that whole new section would just be like another family cabanas section. And then, I mean, there's room for them to put more Serenity Bay cabanas going the other direction.
[00:32:48] Speaker D: True, true. Although they did move the crew beach in that direction. So there is. They definitely have room for some more cabanas at the end of Serenity currently. But at some point, they will get to that crew beach area. And so they don't have unlimited room over there. And I just don't know how much restriction there is as to how much they can develop. Right. Because we know there are some restrictions that they agreed to with the Bahamians.
So that'll be. You know, I just don't know the limits of that. All right, well, let's jump back on board. We've got to talk about. I feel like we should talk about some of the spaces because obviously, you know, this is your first time on the Treasure. You guys are platinum cruisers. You've been on, of course, the wish. Right. So, like, what did you guys think of, you know, the different spaces on board particularly? Obviously, you've got the bar space, as you mentioned, being wowed by, you know, the first impression. And obviously the grand hall is gorgeous. But curious about, you know, of course, Haunted Mansion bar Paris or Haunted Mansion Parlor. Periscope Pub. Skipper Society. You guys are big parks people, too. So, like, to me, this is where the treasure shines. But, yeah. And of course, aristocat, Scat Cat Lounge. Aristocat themed bar space. Yeah. What were your. What were your thoughts about these spaces?
[00:34:13] Speaker E: I love them so much.
I really think Treasure hit it out of the park with the theming of the bar spaces. I love that they've tied in park's IP into the ship. I know it can be a polarizing thought. Like, some people don't like the inclusion of the IP stuff. Personally, I love it.
I really thought I'd be spending all of my time in Haunted Mansion because that is my favorite ride ever.
But we spend most of our time at Skipper Society. I think it was just where it was on the ship. It was easy for Sterling to come and go and spend time with us if they wanted to.
I think it was Skipper Society and Periscope were the ones we spent the most time.
[00:34:58] Speaker A: Yeah, Skippers is fantastic.
Just the theming that's there, the music that's going on in the background, all of the Easter eggs, the signs.
I mean, the cast was phenomenal. The Fact that they've got live music there on many evenings. Yeah, it was just the place to be. I ended up having to do a little bit of work there too. So I just grabbed one of those circular booths and had some friends coming and going during the day. But got to get a whole bunch of grant reviews done that I needed to do for a foundation that I'm on the board for. So it was just.
It's just a super comfortable place. Haunted Mansion, though.
Imagineering just, just did such a stellar job.
So impressive with especially the artwork that moves and all the rest of that stuff. I think I understand how they do it, but I don't want to ruin the illusion for anybody, so I won't go any into that. But it's just so, so well done in there. I wish we would have spent a little bit more time in there, but we just didn't on this trip.
[00:36:13] Speaker D: It's a little bit noisy in there. So, like, I don't mean. I'm not trying to criticize because I love it. I think Imagineering did an awesome, awesome job. Right. Like it's, it is, it is decked out to the nines. Right. Like, there's no space that is sort of overlooked as far as like theming and details and all of that. But like, it's not the. It's like the best for just like looking around and watching the walls and the. And all of the different special effects. But it's not the best place to have a conversation and it definitely isn't the place where you could do some. Get some work done unless they have everything turned off.
[00:36:47] Speaker B: Right.
[00:36:48] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:36:48] Speaker B: Did you try out Periscope Pub? Yeah, because that was, that was actually my preferred spot.
[00:36:55] Speaker E: We liked Periscope a lot.
[00:36:56] Speaker A: Yeah, Periscope was absolutely phenomenal. The food there is great.
They don't usually serve the food until later in the day, but it is really, really good. Actually, the last night on board we were supposed to go well, we had our rotation hitting at Worlds of Marvel again and Alicia wanted to go for the show, Sterling wanted to go for the show and the rest of us were like, hard pass.
And so we actually had dinner at Periscope.
And yeah, it was fantastic. The only knock I would give on Periscope is that animation that they have all the screens needs to be a lot longer because it's like a 90 second loop. And as you're sitting there for a while it's like, okay, something else would be great.
[00:37:48] Speaker E: No, they need to do sports on there.
[00:37:50] Speaker B: Well, they usually do.
[00:37:51] Speaker E: I'M really surprised nothing was on. Well, it may have just been when we were there, but there was nothing on the screens.
[00:37:58] Speaker B: No. Yeah. When I was there, they had sports on for most of the day and then the animation was only on if there wasn't, like, sports available or I think if, you know, somehow they're like, out of range of being able to get the sports or something like that. So, yeah, it's. Most of the time there were sports on which I was nervous would be a bit jarring to the theming.
And it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't terrible. I mean, it's, it's brighter in there when all the TVs are lit up with, you know, suppose the deep blue and dark tones of the animation. You've got the white kind of light coming out. But no, I mean, it needs to fulfill the purpose of a sports pub. So it worked well, I agree with you. The food is great. And we, we've actually done that now a couple times where we're like, I'm not feeling the dining rotation. I've had that menu a bunch. So, like, I could really just go for some chicken wings and loaded tater tots tonight. Yeah, Ye.
[00:38:42] Speaker E: Oh, they're tater. They're tachos or whatever you want to call them. They're so good.
[00:38:46] Speaker B: Potato barrels or whatever.
[00:38:49] Speaker D: Yeah, loaded potato barrels or something like that. Well, and just to put it out there, you guys know this, but for people listening, that's that food is not included food. So you're going to pay a fee for any, any of the food that you order off the menu in Periscope Pub is you're paying for a la carte, and so they give you little snacks, but, like, little, like, pretzels or something like that that's included. But the, the, the, you know, the soft pretzel, the tachos, the wings, all that stuff is all extra charge.
[00:39:20] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm going to be controversial for a second and say Disney needs to stop that. They just need to include that food. Like, it's crazy to me that, you know, the price you're paying to be on a Disney cruise, you can't get chicken wings and potato barrels, you know, so, like, and the snacks they give you at the table, I mean, I know those are coming from Costco.
Like, I have bought those snacks from Costco. So. Yeah, they're not.
Yeah, it's not breaking the bank around here. So, yeah, I think, I think they really ought to like, or, or give you a, you know, give You. A tab like, like Virgin does like a bar tab that you can use daily for, you know, some snacks if you want. Because I. Yeah, it's. It's. That food is not expensive.
[00:39:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:01] Speaker E: Oh, I'm gonna go a little more on Periscope because, yeah, I love the.
The screens up at the top so it makes you look like you're underwater. And the fish that go by.
I don't know if anybody said this on your. Your podcast before, but the fish is actually.
They filmed the fish over at the seas at Epcot. And those are those silhouettes from those swimming by. I thought that was really a really cool touch that they added.
[00:40:29] Speaker D: Yeah, absolutely. What did you guys. Yeah, what did you guys think about Scat Cat?
[00:40:34] Speaker E: We weren't there very much.
[00:40:35] Speaker A: We weren't there a bunch.
Loved it though. I think the decor is great. It's not probably the.
It's not the most obvious theme for folks. I think, you know, Aristocats as a movie isn't kind of the more front of mind level of IP.
[00:40:53] Speaker D: 100% agree with you. I'm not a. I'm not a huge Aristocats fan, but I think that they did this space really nice and they did a really nice sort of understated. Right. Like it's. It is. There's definitely theming, but it's not over the top.
And so it's good. It's a good balance and it's probably one of my favorite places on board. Even though I really don't like the aristocats movie.
[00:41:17] Speaker A: Yeah, we like. I had one of the jams. I was surprised how much I loved that. I don't think I've had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich in like decades. And oh yeah, the nostalgia was great. I love, you know, with that space and with Periscope, you know, compared to the Wish, they've made some changes in the layout of those spaces. They've moved the bars in terms of where they are in the room for both of those. It really opens things up. It does such a better job of helping flow. The one thing I'll be interested to see, and I don't know that it'll make it in time for the Destiny, but I actually think while I love having that pass through bar from Scat Pat, the Scat Cat. Excuse me.
To the. To the main lobby to the atrium there, there's two pocket doors plus a pass through of the bar. They're eating a lot of space that the bartenders really could be using for product and coolers.
Bill, my Friend was. Was talking to one of the bartenders there, and they said that it's actually a logistical struggle for them to have enough stuff on hand out at the bar because those pocket doors eat so much space. So I be interesting to.
I bet you that in one of the iterations as this moves forward into. Because I think we have at least two more the wish class coming. Right. There's the OLC ship, there's the Destiny, and then there's another one.
[00:42:50] Speaker D: Yes. There's one more that'll be a U.S. spaceship. Yeah.
[00:42:53] Speaker A: I bet you one of those sliding doors gets deleted. And I wouldn't be surprised if in five years when the Treasure hits its first major dry dock, that they don't make that same change because they need more cooler space for the. For the bar.
[00:43:07] Speaker D: Yeah, well, and I'm sure that from a operation standpoint, it just means more running back and forth. But that's a pain for them, right, if they have to constantly restock or if they constantly run out of stuff and then they've got to radio somebody to, you know, get stuff restocked. That. That definitely is a challenge.
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[00:44:20] Speaker B: Now back to the episode.
[00:44:24] Speaker D: Well, let's talk about some of the onboard activities. Obviously, there are some things that are. Are unique to the Treasure. We've talked a lot about Coriander and Sage.
[00:44:33] Speaker B: I was gonna say, I know where Sam's Headed. Tell us how much you loved Coriander and Sage.
[00:44:37] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:44:37] Speaker B: Tell us the ever on the Treasure.
[00:44:39] Speaker D: And what you thought of the Indiana Jones. I mean, we've got some new game shows, you know, and shows right on the Treasure that we hadn't seen before. So some new entertainment offerings.
We'll set aside the shows for now, but onboard experiences and we'll. And if there's other things that are not new to the Treasure, but just stuff you really enjoy, you know, tell us what kinds things you did on the Treasure that maybe you do on other ships also.
[00:45:05] Speaker A: I think it's really just Coriander and Sage. Can we just spend the rest of the time talking about those two? Because. Holy cow, what an ad.
[00:45:12] Speaker E: The live entertainment that Streetmosphere, whatever you want to call it, needs to come to all the ships. That was amazing. I loved them so much.
[00:45:22] Speaker D: Yeah, there's like 12 of them, but there's only two of them. Right.
Because it feels like they're everywhere.
[00:45:29] Speaker A: They are everywhere. Even in. Even in the pirate parlay deck party. Like they're playing versions of themselves. Pirate versions of themselves. And then hosting Match youh Matey later on in the evening after that. So it was. Yeah, they just add so much to that onboard experience. And that's where I really start thinking that the premium you're paying to be on a Disney cruise, you start getting that value back. Like this is where, you know, it's not just the characters that are around because like that's. That's definitely a thing. But to me, the Coriander and Sage and the more things that they can do like that. And they've got what, three or four different shows that they do in various places. Some of them are adults only. A lot of them are for. For everybody.
That's. That really ties the whole thing together. And I'm so glad to see Disney adding stuff like that.
[00:46:24] Speaker E: Yeah. The choose wisely I absolutely loved. I really hope something like that is on the Destiny. Maybe Marvel themed or who knows.
[00:46:32] Speaker D: I love. You're coining it though. Streetmosphere Alicia, though. Because that is. It really does. It makes you think of the kinds of things you see in the parks where you've got like the Policeman in the Parks and you've got the five and Dime Band singing. Right. Like it really does. I mean, we do have some of the musical Streetmosphere already on board the other ships. Right. With like Victrophonics and things like that. But you really are bringing these characters on that add to that and become that more immersive streetmosphere that we see in the park.
And it works on the treasure even so much better because it is mostly parks themed ship. Right? So, yeah, I love that. That's a great point.
We gotta talk about the stage shows because, of course, why else would you go on a Disney ship if not for them having the most amazing stage shows of all time?
I know you guys are big theater buffs like I am. What. What did you guys think of the shows on board Seas? The Adventure, of course, is on board. Beauty and the Beast, of course, is on board. And Tale of Moana.
[00:47:41] Speaker E: We only did Tale of Moana.
[00:47:43] Speaker D: Oh, interesting, interesting.
[00:47:45] Speaker E: So we didn't do Sees the Adventure because we had Prima note. We didn't do Beauty and the Beast for the reason.
[00:47:55] Speaker A: How do I say we're burned out on Beauty and the Beast.
[00:47:57] Speaker B: We're burned out on Beauty and the.
[00:47:58] Speaker E: Beast because, Sterling, all last year, their. Their thing for Big Star was Beauty and the Beast. So we saw Beauty and the Beast so many times.
[00:48:08] Speaker A: Right? Yeah. Okay.
[00:48:10] Speaker E: I do love it now. I do love it on the ships, though.
[00:48:13] Speaker D: This might be the. The best excuse ever for not seeing Beauty and the Beast is that your kid's been in it so many times that you're like, I. I just can't watch it one more time.
[00:48:22] Speaker E: We needed a break.
[00:48:24] Speaker A: I've heard a 15 minute of that. I've heard a 15 minute version of that show every week for basically like nine months straight. It was like, we're good on Beauty and the Beast.
[00:48:36] Speaker E: We'll see it again later. We just need it a little bit.
[00:48:38] Speaker D: You just need some time. Yeah, you.
[00:48:40] Speaker A: And it is a fantastic show. We have seen it on.
That's on the Dream, right?
[00:48:45] Speaker D: The Dream. Yep.
[00:48:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
It is a fantastic production. And I can only imagine what they're able to do even more on the newer ship with some of the newer tech. So excited to see it. But it didn't happen this time.
[00:49:00] Speaker E: Moana. I saw both showings. I saw the afternoon and the evening, and I loved it. I absolutely loved it. The first showing, I was on the right side of the theater, kind of halfway up. The second one in the evening, we were pretty much front and center. I think we were second row center for it.
[00:49:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Too close.
Yeah, a little too close.
[00:49:22] Speaker E: It was too close. Yeah.
[00:49:23] Speaker A: And there was a couple things that we were just blocked because some character would come dead front of stage and squat down, and then we're just like, well, we can't. What's going on there? So Note to selves, sit a little off center. If you are going to sit up close or sit further back where the raked seating really helps you out.
I'm going to potentially get stoned here. I liked Moana.
I thought the show needed some more time and some more work. And it's not the execution. The execution.
Most of the casting was absolutely fantastic. In fact, like, it's a challenge to find those specific roles in a world where you are having to cast for, you know, multiple different stage show performances, plus all of the other things that those folks do across the ship. So, like, I'll give a hall pass. There was some, like, if we're. If we're casting this on land, I would have made some different decisions in terms of, like, age of some of the characters and stuff like that. But to me, it felt like the book just needs some more workshop time. I think there's some spaces. It just needs to be tightened up. It wasn't flowing as well as it could be.
And in my brain, it's. You know, you look at a Broadway show or even something that's touring, I mean, you're doing eight shows a week and for hundreds or thousands of iterations. And so you get to see the performances evolve. Like, we've seen Hamilton like, four or five times, and it's different every time what the actors bring to the roles.
If you look at Moana, it's running three shows like Matinee, and then two evening shows once a week.
And we were on in mid February. I know they were in Toronto and building the show and training before.
It just hasn't had that bake time to me. I think I'm interested to see where it gets in another year or two or even. I think y' all are going on here pretty soon as. As we record on.
[00:51:34] Speaker D: And with cast number two, we're gonna. So we've saw. We saw cast number one on the maiden voyage, which is who you saw because they only just got off at the kind of middle end of March.
And so then Cast two, Treasure. Cast two came on board. So we. There's a new Coriander and Sage. There's an entirely new stage cast. That doesn't mean all roles on Border, they rotate at different times. So just to be clear, it's just sort of the main stage and storytellers all rotate at the same time. Other cast members rotate more sporadically so that it's not everybody new, but they do this because we're talking about a stage cast that has to be rehearsing all Together. And that's like, as you mentioned, they all go to Toronto before they get onto the ship, and that's where they do all their, you know, know, their prep for all of those main stage shows, as well as their, you know, some of the deck parties and the other, you know, and the storytellers meeting Coriander and Sage, doing their. Their shows. So they're workshopping everything before they get on board. But, yeah, it will be interesting to see if it's any different, because obviously we'll see different actors in it. So there will be. I'm sure it'll be different in the sense that everybody plays a role slightly differently, but I'm not sure that we'll see any big differences. So I'm looking forward to seeing whether or not, because Disney doesn't tend to make big changes to their shows on the ships, with one exception, which is anything that involves the genie, the jokes they try to keep fresh, you know, but with regard to their stage shows, they don't do a lot of tweaking once they launch them on the ships, they don't do a huge amount of tweaking unless they do a real revision.
So, yeah, that'll be interesting to see.
Hot take, Nathan. Hot take. I mean, I'm gonna. I'm gonna tell you you're wrong. I think Alicia will tell you you're wrong too. But, like, it's, you know, but it's. It's a hot take. You're entitled to your own opinion, even if it's wrong. Right, Alicia?
[00:53:39] Speaker E: Yes. And very much a music snob there, Nathan. Oh, my goodness.
The puppetry for Moana and Tamatoa and Taka and Te Fiti is just. Just jaw dropping. It is so stunning. I loved it so much.
[00:53:56] Speaker A: Don't hear what I'm not saying. I'm not saying it's bad.
I loved the show. Well, I know, you know, but I don't want to get, you know, angry letters from thousands of people after this goes live. But, no, I really love the show. I just. I see the potential for some small tweaks, some small timing and rhythm improvements to just make it feel like it's flow. Like there's a couple spots where in the middle, it just felt like it was stuttering along a little bit, and it just needs some more bake times, more repetition. I think it will get there 100%, and I'm excited for it to get there.
[00:54:35] Speaker D: Yeah. And the only area where I will agree with you is the one new song that they added.
I think that Addition is a bit of a mistake, let's put it that way.
I don't think the song is good. I don't think. Think it's, It's. The performers are wonderful. There's a special effect that happens during it that's pretty cool. I won't spoil that. But, like, I don't think the song is good. And so I feel like they need to just, like, either take that out or replace the song with a better song. Right. Like, it's an added song. It's not in the movie. And so it's, it's not original. It's not a Lin Manuel Miranda, like, show song. And so no, and no. Like, no shade to whoever wrote it. It might work in a different context. It just. I don't think that that song works in, in this, in this. In the middle of the show. And it's right in the middle of the show. And that's where the area where. I agree with you. I feel like there's a slump right there because of that scene in that song.
All right, well, moving on. We got to talk about food. You had mentioned this other hot take, Nathan, about skipping Marvel the Night 2 Marvel show, which in my opinion is like, such, like the better of the two Marvel shows. And I, I enjoy this.
[00:55:51] Speaker B: Comes down to the conversation of form and function. Right? So, like, like, for me, it's. It's great to have a great show, but if it's a great. Supposed to be a great dinner show, then the dinner should be equally good. Right? And like, I, I gotta agree here that, like, I don't know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be controversial and say the main. Dining on the treasure, it's got some challenges to it. Like 1923, still great.
[00:56:18] Speaker D: Night one is great. Not great. Night two of 1923, I don't, I think the, you know, the lobster.
[00:56:23] Speaker B: I think most of the night two menus are missing the mark in these.
[00:56:27] Speaker D: No, no, it's coke. No, you're. You're wrong about Coco because Coco is the opposite.
[00:56:31] Speaker B: Coco's appetizers. But, like, the entrees and cocoa are not my favorite in the fleet. Right. So, like, I, I, Yeah, I'm. Anyway, Nathan, Alicia, what did you think of this?
[00:56:44] Speaker D: First thing, I want to hear what Alicia thinks first. I'm going to start with Alicia here.
[00:56:50] Speaker E: Okay, so 1923, I like the first night. Second night was okay.
Coco. I liked both nights just fine.
Marvel, I do not like the first night. I like the second night. Short and sweet, nice and slow, simple There you go.
[00:57:06] Speaker D: Yeah. Alicia, we are, we are simpatico. I am in agreement with you on, on all of the things I don't hate. Like the first night of Marvel. I actually, I really like. There's a couple dishes I, I enjoy. They're not my favorite, like dishes on, you know, the whole cruise or anything, but like, I think there's some, there's some decent stuff there. But the show the second night is much better and the menu is. And I see. And I think the menu is also better on the. The second night in Marvel. And same with Coco. The second night is better in. At Coco, menu wise.
Great. I think both nights maybe the second one's a little bit better because it's the Dia de los Muertas. It's just a little bit more, you know, fun and.
But okay, Nathan, we gotta get your hot take.
[00:57:48] Speaker A: I actually, I'm probably more leaning towards what. What Brian shared. I think at least on this cruise, the, the food was good. I think the, the. I just listened to our podcast episode, our trip report this morning to just kind of refresh my brain and I, I used the word fine. It was fine.
It was not stellar. I think we've across the board have better quality and implementations of a lot of these dishes, but it wasn't bad. It just was. I've just, I've had better 1923.
I still really like those menus. I'm not really a lobster person, so the second night didn't really bother me too much. But then again, as I'm sitting here, I. There's nothing stands out of. Oh yeah, that like this at 19:20, 30 was great. Like the steak's good, but if I'm gonna have a steak on board, I'm gonna go to Palo.
[00:58:44] Speaker E: Oh, Sterling had the lobster though. And did he. And they quite enjoyed it.
[00:58:48] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:58:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:58:50] Speaker E: I was surprised.
[00:58:51] Speaker A: I thought cocoa was, was great. I was really surprised at how much I like the food. I don't typically eat a lot of Mexican food because I don't. I find myself not liking American Mexican food.
And when I've had authentic stuff, when we're, you know, on a pork stop or whatever in Mexico, I really enjoy that food.
And so I think I don't have a really great basis to make a call on what I had. I enjoyed it all. The beef empanadas were absolutely a highlight for me. I really enjoyed those World of Marvel.
I would have loved to have enjoyed the music and the experience on the second night show.
I didn't really need to have the first night show again.
Yeah, that whole interesting story. There was a little boy, probably, I don't know, 3 1/2, 4ish, and had cochlear implants and had a. A kind of a meltdown. This was several. Several tables away from us, but evidently flung his hands up and grabbed one of the devices off the side of a head office head and it flung across the room. And so that was actually like the thing that I was looking at, because it was more like everybody spent the next 45 minutes trying to find this, like, $14,000 piece of medical equipment and find where it landed.
Thankfully, Doc, one of our friends who was with us at the table found it. Everybody was looking on the floor, and it had hooked itself on the back of a chair, like, right across from us. So.
[01:00:28] Speaker D: Oh, my goodness.
[01:00:29] Speaker A: Yeah, we became like that family. Anytime they saw us across the ship for the rest of the cruise, they're like, thank you so much. Holy cow. Yeah, I was like, I didn't. It was docked. But, you know, I'm glad to be sitting at the same table.
[01:00:42] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, well, but that's. That's a good point. Like, it. It can be. That first night of Marvel in particular is. Is, like, over. Stimulating. Let's put it that way. All right. Like, so if you're somebody who has, like, some sensory sensitivities, it's like, maybe. I mean, I think it's more so of an issue than in Coco, which is interesting because on the Wish, I think a lot of people would say the opposite because Arendelle is, like, very, very loud. But both Arendelle and Worlds of Marvel are very loud. On the Wish, the first night I think of Worlds of Marvel is like. Yeah, it's maybe, maybe like too much of a. Yeah. Too much of a sensory overwhelming experience. And for those who maybe have some auditory sensitivities, like, maybe that's the night to, like, take out the hearing aids or turn them down or, you know, something like that, or to just think about that because.
Or. And if you have, you know, like a kid on the spectrum who has some auditory sensitivities, bringing those noise canceling headphones is probably a good. I think it's a good idea to bring to any of the dinner shows because they can be loud deck parties. We. We have done that in the past when we have taken Nathan to, you know, not you, not the sail away. He, like, doesn't really like the sail away anyway because he. It's, you know, just too usually loud and hot outside. Right. So it's like double of a sensory issue, but for like pirate night.
Any kind of, you know, nighttime deck party, like. Yeah, bringing those, the noise canceling headphones, I think is, is a, is a smart pro tip. If you've got a kid or an adult in your party that has any of those kinds of sensitivities. Okay, well, we've got to talk adult dining, right? Like we, you know, adult dining on all. I think on all the Disney ships is fantastic. You guys did Paulo brunch and Palo dinner. I know your friends did Enchante. But I'd love to know what you guys thought. I know you've done the adult dining on some of the other ships, but what you thought of Paulo and in particular on the Disney Treasure.
Oh, and Prima Note.
[01:02:50] Speaker E: And Prima Note. We loved Prima Note. We had like all six of us there and I don't think any of us had done it before.
[01:02:59] Speaker A: Yeah, it was fantastic. Like the service, the food, the pours that we're getting, you know, instantly making friends with the sommelier.
We got a brand new port recommendation that is jumped to the top of our list moving forward. And throughout the cruise, as it turned out, it was stunning as always. We had familiar faces in the dining room, on the staff, and the food was just fantastic. Hands down. I hear everybody on your podcast and elsewhere, everybody goes really Polished is kind of like the best restaurant around the cruise industry when it comes to upscale dining. And the Wish and the Treasure, just take that up a level. Like the way that they do. The stakes there is just absolutely fantastic. The space is gorgeous and beautiful and the only thing that would be better would be bringing back the old buffet.
[01:04:01] Speaker D: But that ship has sailed, literally and figuratively. That ship.
We said it when they switched it post Covid, we, we said, I don't think this is ever coming back because you can tell like from a food cost perspective, you know, they have, they've definitely saved money and, and not that people don't. You can still order as much as you want, but it's not food sitting out that then has to be thrown away. Right. So it is, I'm sure it's, it's saved them a lot in that, in that respect effect. And there's still a, you know, there's still a, a bit of a barrier. It's actually I was watching a show the other day that was talking about, or maybe it was even a real, I don't even know on Instagram, but talking about McDonald's and ordering from those, like, screens now instead of ordering from A person. And they said that people order more from the screen than they do from a person at a register because there's no, no embarrassment barrier about ordering too much or ordering more than you, you know, like ordering extra food or whatever. I thought that was interesting. But it's the buffet thing sort of fits into that. Right. Because at a buffet, self serve buffet, you people tend to overload more than if somebody is, you know, serving them. Yeah. Themselves.
[01:05:23] Speaker A: And I think the other pro tip, and I know you shared it before, is, is it is completely okay to. To skip some of the breakfast options at Palo brunch. You don't need the pancakes or the waffle or whatever. Just skip that. Leave yourself some room for all the amazing stuff that's coming after that.
It is much better. I think Alicia and I were both very happy with our ability to enjoy a lot of different food but not walk out of Palo this time around feeling like, oh, my gosh, what have I just done to myself?
[01:05:57] Speaker B: Yourself. So, Nathan, Alicia, what have we missed? What have we not talked about that you want to be sure to share with the audience here?
[01:06:04] Speaker A: We picked up some challenge coins.
We enjoyed Hooks Barbary actually a couple times.
And Alicia went along for moral support.
She's typically not a bourbon drinker or scotch drinker. And then she noticed on the, on the menu, they had a run rum.
[01:06:23] Speaker D: Oh, they do, Alicia.
[01:06:25] Speaker A: They do.
[01:06:27] Speaker E: It was an expensive rum.
It was a very expensive rum. It was the dictator, Glen Farclass, and it's basically a rum distillery and a scotch distillery. They got together and made something amazing and delicious. And I have a coin for that one. Now.
[01:06:49] Speaker A: We looked up the, the, the bottle is like 2, €300. I'm like, wow.
[01:06:55] Speaker E: So we will not be adding that to our collection.
[01:07:00] Speaker D: You know, you just have a, you have a shot of it. Essentially when I say a shot, it's. You're not shooting it like a shot.
[01:07:07] Speaker E: That was a sipping drink for sure.
[01:07:09] Speaker D: Yes. But you get a shot either on ice or neat and you just sip it.
[01:07:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
I was a sucker to the, the, the Internet and social media and all the rest of that stuff and needed to try the Pappy Van Winkle. I tried the 12.
It was, it was really good. I don't know that it's something I would definitely go back to all the time. I did have to go back though, because everybody already talks or always talks. Excuse me. About the 23 year old. I actually thought the 12 was better, at least for my palette. But yeah, so we've got three, three Challenge.
And now we have a new thing that we need to go do on all the ships. Because I think the first time we were on the wish, I don't remember that they had challenge coins up and running.
[01:07:54] Speaker B: So I asked the bartender on the Treasure because I was like, I've never seen this before. He said, no, it's not new. We had it on the wish. We just could never keep the coins in stock.
[01:08:02] Speaker D: And so I don't think we knew about it though, either. And I don't know when they launched it. Like, I don't think it launched.
[01:08:08] Speaker B: I didn't know it was there. That's why I said. But yeah, that's why I said to the bartender, like, I've never seen this before because I didn't know they had it on the wish. And he said, well, part of the reason you didn't is because we didn't have the boxes out because we didn't have the coins to give out.
[01:08:18] Speaker A: So, yeah, it's probably the one thing that will get us back on the wish.
Yeah, now we need to go get a coin.
[01:08:25] Speaker E: The completionists in us.
[01:08:27] Speaker D: Yeah, that is so funny. I can see, I mean, we haven't been, we don't have any plans to go on the wish anytime soon either. And so I could see that would be like a motivating factor to go on the wish.
But it could also just be, be like if the wish changes itineraries at some point.
[01:08:45] Speaker A: Right.
[01:08:45] Speaker D: You know, then, then that might be the reason.
[01:08:47] Speaker B: And for, and for those at home, you can see, you can. Nathan has his in front of him, I think, and I'll hold mine up. But they, they, the coins look like that. And then on the back they have the name of the bourbon that you bought. And the 12 year is the lowest entry level price to get the coin. And it is not cheap. And then they only go way, way up from there. So it is, it is a luxury, but it created a fun game for myself and the two guys I was sailing with because each of us had a coin. And so then we, we, we played the challenge coin game, which I don't know if this is right, but the way that we did it is you put the coins down on the table and if someone's missing theirs, they buy the round.
If you initiated the challenge and everyone had their coin, then you buy the round. So that's, that's what we did. And actually I, I, I wanted to take a minute because this is, this is a really fun thing that we got. A friend of the Show Jerry White, who we've met on several sailings now he makes challenge coins. And so he made a coin for us that has a design that we did for the Treasure Maiden, and on the back, it has our logo. So this is the coin I will now be carrying with me. It's one of a kind. So there you go.
[01:10:00] Speaker A: You definitely did play the challenge coin game correctly. A lot of the folks that I work with are former military or other folks in government, and that's how it goes.
[01:10:12] Speaker B: Yeah, it created endless fun as we would run into each other randomly on the ship. And I always played too. Like, they would pull it out and be like, see, you don't have yours. I'm like, I'm coming back from the spa, and we're nowhere near a bar, so, yay, you won. I'm going to my room now.
[01:10:29] Speaker D: Well, and the other thing about challenge coins, which this is, as you mentioned, Nathan, it started really with law enforcement and military, and what they tend to do do is trade. Like, you would have one from your police department or your branch or, you know, or your regiment or whatever, and you would trade with other folks so that you would have different ones. And so you wouldn't have just one that was your department or regiment. You'd have a whole bunch of them, but you would, you know, sort of swap so that you collect a bunch of different ones. So that's sort of been the. That was sort of the tradition of challenge coins. But, of course, now everyone is making challenge coins for all kinds of things, even Disney security folks. Disney security. They have their.
[01:11:10] Speaker B: Yeah, we have. We have challenge. We have challenge coins from the Halcyon, several different versions of them for cast and security that they handed out. And challenge coins from Club 33 has challenge coins. Like, yeah, there's. There's challenge coins all over the Disney universe. I had planned. Actually, we had a fun club 33 challenge coin that ended up with two of. And I was like, well, I'll just carry this around in my pocket as my challenge coin. But now that we've got our own, I think I got to carry that one. That one's got to be the one that's in my pocket.
[01:11:35] Speaker A: So.
[01:11:36] Speaker D: Yeah. Yeah. Well. And you. You mentioned off the recording or pre recording that you guys planned a pub crawl. I'd love to hear how. How that was organized and how that went.
[01:11:49] Speaker E: So I based this off of something called the people's Pub crawl that I've seen online, and they've done a lot of things on Disney cruise ships and I contacted them and say and let them know that I wanted to do something similar and got some inspiration from them. And we called ours the Sips on the the Ships.
And I just let our Facebook group know that we were going to do it, when we were going to do it and all that. It was the second sea day, and it was an entire day thing starting at like 10 in the morning and done at 11 at night, which is very hard for these two introverts right here. But we did it.
We had about 70 people sign up. I made a little passport book, had all of the venues listed in there. There's room for people to wr the drink that they got the time that they were there and have the bartender sign or do something like that. Nice little 32 page booklets that everybody had. And everybody also had a bright orange wristband so we could see each other around the ship.
And I had a schedule made.
[01:12:56] Speaker A: Yeah, it was a great way to meet other people.
It absolutely forced us out of our comfort zone. Thankfully, our best friends were also involved in helping to encourage folks to move around and talk. Talk. Alicia did a great job in that. It was kind of a block schedule.
Like in the morning, it was hitting hey hey Cafe and Jade Cricket. And so it wasn't like 70 or 80 people all showing up at the same place at the same time. It was kind of a free for all in that regard. But it was a great way to go experience all these places.
We did have the beverage staff reach out.
[01:13:39] Speaker E: Oh, I went to them ahead of time. I let them know we were doing this well.
[01:13:42] Speaker A: And then they came back and said, hey, like, I think the rose wasn't going to be open when we thought it was going to be.
But they added bartender staff to the Periscope Pub earlier than they were intending. So it went really well. Like, nobody caused an issue. We had. We had rules in the back of the passport, and everyone. Every other line was basically like, be nice to your bartender. Like, take care of your bartender.
Take care of your bartender tender and don't cause a problem.
And I think we. Everybody really nailed that. And so it was. It was fun.
[01:14:15] Speaker D: Yeah, Good job, Alicia. And really good pro tip of you need to talk to the staff on board. Because when you plan this, you're planning this obviously in advance on the Facebook group, and you're not doing it with coordination of Disney. And if you just go and do it and you don't tell them, you might really slam a bar because they might only have, like, one person scheduled to be there. At the time that you've sort of said, oh, 70 people are going to come. And even if it's a two hour block still, they might not be expecting 70 people to come in that two hour block. Right. So really, really smart to let them know. And then they can, and then they can adjust. We had, there was one that was done, I think on the maiden voyage, but they actually ended up breaking it up into multiple different days. So different people doing on different days in order to avoid that because it was well, well even over 70 people subscribed to it and so things like that.
[01:15:06] Speaker B: But they had so much fun. They did it twice, so.
[01:15:08] Speaker D: Well, that's what I'm saying.
[01:15:09] Speaker B: A lot of went back out again.
[01:15:10] Speaker D: A lot of people went right back. Yeah, went for. But they, and they, I think they sort of also made like two different pathways. Right. So like, like one group started at bar, you know, one bar and another group started a different bar and so that they wouldn't all be in the same spaces at the same time. So if you're, you know, doing something like this out there, I think, you know, that's great. Just make sure you communicate with the onboard staff so that everybody has a wonderful time. And as Nathan and Alicia said, take care of your bartenders. Absolutely, yes.
[01:15:39] Speaker A: Well, you guys, this sounds, and I was gonna say and take care of yourself because nobody, you know, hydrate yourself. And then, you know, it doesn't happen as much on Disney, but it does happen occasionally. You know, there's some people who overindulge and that's not what this was about. This was about, you know, exploring some spaces, getting to know new people.
Yes, we're doing it with an adult beverage in your hand, but it's not about, you know, throwing back dozens and dozens of drinks. You know, we're really out to, to just have fun and enjoy the day. And we're super thankful for everybody who joined in. And yeah, it was a ton of fun.
[01:16:16] Speaker D: And you can have a non alcoholic beverage, by the way, at all of those locations. All of those locations have non alcoholic beverages. Of course. The cafes are great spots for coffees. Right. So plenty of, plenty of stuff to have on board that does not include alcohol. So just a pro tip out there. Well, you guys, this sounds like an amazing trip.
Really interesting reviews of everything. Some interesting, interesting and not so interesting hot takes by Nathan.
But I've got to ask you, we're not going to do a full rapid fire because we've done a rapid fire with you guys fairly recently. But what I would really love to know is, do you have a new favorite ship now?
[01:16:57] Speaker E: I do.
[01:17:00] Speaker D: So Wonders of Treasure is now the favorite. Alicia. Wow.
[01:17:04] Speaker E: Wonder was our favorite, and this one beat it out. Just.
It was hard, though. I love the intimacy of the smaller ships and the Wonder, but the spaces here and just the entertainment, everything, just the whole package of eked it out. Treasure is my favorite, and I cannot wait to get back on here again. When are we going, Nathan?
[01:17:28] Speaker D: Yeah, when are we going, Nathan?
[01:17:29] Speaker A: Not soon enough.
I think. Alicia and I have penciled in a back to back on the Treasure. Probably for the summer of 26, I think.
[01:17:40] Speaker D: Oh, my goodness.
It's like two weeks on the Treasure. Yes.
[01:17:45] Speaker B: That's what I want.
[01:17:46] Speaker E: It was not long enough. A week was not long enough.
[01:17:48] Speaker D: Yeah. Yeah.
[01:17:50] Speaker A: For me. I am still struggling over the treasure versus the Wonder.
The Wonder. We have literally spent, I think, nine or 10 weeks of our lives on the Wonder. It is our home. We love, love, love that ship, and it has a special place in our hearts and always will.
The treasure, she's new. She's beautiful.
It's like that meme of the guy looking over his shoulder like, well, I don't know. The treasure's pretty nice.
I don't know.
I'm still going to go with the Wonder.
I will knock the wish class ships because of the adult spaces and the lack of a pool, because the little waiting pool thing in the back that in the location of it and how you can get there or can't get there inside. I just don't like the COVID area on the treasure or all the wish class. The wish treasure. I don't think they're going to fix that. Yeah, I'm still going to go with the Wonder, but every time I hear Alicia or anybody else talk about how amazing everything is around the treasure, I'm like, do I really still think it's the wonderful. I don't know. I could be easily swayed.
[01:19:09] Speaker B: Do you think that the. The premium they're charging for the treasure is justified?
[01:19:15] Speaker A: I mean, with sage and coriander, maybe. Yeah, if you take advantage of it. I, I mean, it seems like the premium is a lot lower than it was that we saw with the, with the wish. And so, you know, prices are always going to go up. I, you know, I don't want to get into all that, but, yeah, I didn't feel as bad about the price on the treasure as, as I really did about the wish.
Yeah, we'll just say that. I mean, there's a reason that we're you know, we have another four.
Plus like once the itineraries are out, we'll probably have another 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. You know, cruises on Disney planned. We've cheated on the mouse once we sailed royal. We are cheating on the mouse again.
What was that?
[01:20:05] Speaker E: Spoilers.
[01:20:06] Speaker A: Spoilers. Yeah, sorry, that's the what next question. I apologize, Brian, but we're trying, we're trying celebrity this summer. We're doing Alaska cruise because I can't swallow the 100% price premium on Disney for Alaska. So we'll see how that goes. But we're always going to be cruising Disney.
[01:20:26] Speaker B: Well, you did preview my question, which is what's next? You might have also preview answered it there, but yeah, what is next? We're. Where are you headed next?
[01:20:32] Speaker E: So cruise wise, our next one is this July on the Celebrity Edge.
[01:20:38] Speaker B: No Captain Kate anymore. No captain.
[01:20:40] Speaker A: No Captain Kate anymore. I did look at the Four Seasons cruise website and.
Huh.
[01:20:46] Speaker E: Yeah, we're not doing that. Sorry. Nope, it's not happening.
I saw those costs. Nope.
[01:20:53] Speaker A: Hey, it concierge, I mean I would get, I would wager like it's the same cost as a concierge room. Well, some of the concierge rooms on Disney and it's a much, much better.
I don't know. Well, it's probably not anytime soon.
[01:21:07] Speaker E: No, no, no, no, no.
[01:21:08] Speaker A: I saw some for 20 still.
[01:21:13] Speaker D: What's next on what's next on Disney Cruise?
[01:21:16] Speaker E: Next on Disney, we are doing the magic in November. Just Nathan and I from San Juan to Galveston. We have not been on the magic since 2009.
[01:21:27] Speaker A: Yeah, so we've heard.
[01:21:29] Speaker D: It's changed. She's changed a bit. Just a little bit. Yeah.
[01:21:32] Speaker B: Apparently they have a new cascading water atrium. So for all of you out there, that is a joke. They had a pipe burst on the magic we're recording in April. So it was last April. Yeah, early April.
And there's some water in the.
The atrium. Apparently not the first time. So.
[01:21:52] Speaker E: Yes.
[01:21:52] Speaker B: You know. Hey, hey. The. The treasure had a water effect.
[01:21:55] Speaker D: Exactly, exactly.
[01:21:57] Speaker A: It's a feature now.
[01:21:59] Speaker D: Yes, exactly.
[01:22:00] Speaker E: So we have, we have the magic in November. We also have it in February. And Sterling will be on that one. And then we have the Destiny next summer. And our daughter will be joining us on that one. That will be here 21st birthday cruise.
[01:22:16] Speaker D: Oh yay. So fun. That's awesome.
Well, you guys first, I gotta say happy anniversary. You mentioned this was a big milestone anniversary for you guys as a couple. As we wrap up here. Of course we gotta say thank you to you all for coming. But we why don't you let folks know if they are interested in listening to your podcast Adventures in Mouscapates, where they can find you on all the socials, where they can find you on all the podcast channels.
[01:22:45] Speaker A: So we are at our mousecapades on all the socials. Ourmouscapage.com will link you to wherever you need to go. We're available wherever finer podcasts are found. So your Apple podcast, Spotify, Overcast, all the things we're everywhere we do post to YouTube. It's amazing how many people listen to just audio podcasts even though it's on YouTube.
So we don't typically do video on YouTube. Occasionally we'll get some shorts and things like that that Alicia puts together. But yeah, just OurMascapeage.com and you can find us and we talk about like Sam said at the start, like parks and trips and cruises and we've talked to lots of cast members from the parks, from the cruises, from everywhere across Disney.
Yeah, lots of insights and all sorts of fun. So come on and join us.
[01:23:38] Speaker B: I was waiting for you to finish there, Kim. I was reading you were like, you've been, you've been just going. So I was waiting for you.
[01:23:44] Speaker D: You always do the wrap up.
[01:23:46] Speaker B: Well, Nathan, Alicia, we as always appreciate you taking time out of your busy weekend. We know we're all really busy these days. Nathan and I work at the same place so that place is not slowing down and with kids it's even more fun. So thank you for taking time out of your weekend to spend some time with us. We really, really appreciate, appreciate it.
[01:24:05] Speaker A: Our pleasure.
[01:24:06] Speaker E: Our pleasure. Yes.
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