Ep. 525 - Live Bonus Show - The Villain Becomes the Hero?: Josh Shares His Hot Takes from His Cruise on the Disney Magic

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Sometimes the villain becomes the hero midway through the story. And I think that just happened. [00:00:04] Speaker B: Right? [00:00:04] Speaker C: I think there was. I think Josh just experienced his redemption story right there. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome back, everybody, to this week's live episode of the DCL Duo podcast, brought to you by my Path Unwinding Travel and our good friends over at DCL Magazine. I was going to ask Sam. She brought a cop with her over into her studio. She did. There it is. It's. It's branded WDW magazine. This is the floatist test, float test issue of DCL magazine. And we couldn't be more excited for our friend Stephanie and the whole crew over there at WDW magazine to have this one out. And yes, Sam is showing my article again, but there are other good articles in there. Not right. [00:00:53] Speaker B: There are lots of great articles in here, but I, of course, am so proud of your article, and so that's why I have to share it and show it every time. [00:01:01] Speaker C: So thank you to them for sponsoring these live shows, these bonus episodes. I'm going to throw up banner across the screen here in a second with a discount you can take advantage of. But head over to dcl-magazine.com today. These things are arriving at inboxes, or, sorry, inboxes. At mailboxes. At mailboxes right now, and they're great, and we want to make it a thing. So head over there, get your copy today. We have one other group of people that I want to thank, of which our favorite guest, the DCL villain. Welcome back, Josh. [00:01:35] Speaker A: Oh, thanks so much, Brian. I'm happy I can make it. I was just reading an article about parasailing on castaway key, and I set it down, literally to come out here. It's on my countertop. I kid you not. [00:01:46] Speaker B: I love it. I love it. That's amazing. I love that, Josh. Yeah. So we've got to thank our patreons. Is that right, Brian? [00:01:55] Speaker C: That is right. Am I breaking up on you? [00:01:57] Speaker B: You are. [00:01:58] Speaker C: All right, well, you know what? We'll come back to that. Sam, why don't you get started with Josh, and I'm going to see if I can take care. Am I still breaking up on you? Am I? [00:02:07] Speaker B: You're okay now. [00:02:08] Speaker C: Okay now. All right, so we do have a special group of people I need to thank really fast, of which Josh is. And that's our Patreon. So if you did not know, we have a Patreon program. It is [email protected] DCLDUO I believe that's the right address. If not, I will put it up on the bottom of the screen at some point during. And I want to thank our Patreons because they pay each and every month to help us put out this content and defray the cost of putting out this content. And we so appreciate them. So thank you for that. And so let me start by recognizing those in our animators palettes here. That includes Steve E. Shoes, who I believe is our friend Steve Elsis, Shanna Barrett, Robert Taylor, Rob and Jillian Abney, Matt Kowalski, Lori Hotung, Josh McHenry, Heather Wilson, the folks over at the Dillos, Diz, Derek Sassman, our friend and fellow podcaster, Dave Hall, Constance Presley, Chris Brown, Bridget Casey, Casey, Ashley Norton, Tracy and Michael Andreco kick things off at our Palo brunch tier. Always a delicious tier to be at. [00:03:09] Speaker B: Larry Fine chocolate souffle there, of course. [00:03:11] Speaker C: Yes, yes, Larry Fine. The Cross Mouse Adventures, folks. Thank you. Jeff Lynwood, Erica. No last name Erica, but thank you. Faye Abbott, Edward Lynn, Drew Curry, and of course Haley Curry. Dennis Keithley, Craig Cole, Chris Wynn, Beth Gentry. Sonia Allen kicks us off at the Palo dinner tier. Also delicious, delicious, delicious here. Sonia Allen, Megan, guys. Lauren Porter, Karen Tomprose, Karen Shelton, who is also fabulous. [00:03:45] Speaker B: Very important member of the Patreon community. [00:03:50] Speaker C: Jennifer Swart, daily MTB writer, AKA the DCL villain. Josh. Cindy Leichner, Christopher Vorobeck, Chris Braga, Ann Whitten, Andrea Cobb. And then we get to our Remy brunch tier. Always a little champagne there. Thomas Rogers, Sean Burns, Eric Nelman, Amy Y. And then at the coveted Remy dinner tier, at the Remy Enchante tier, we get Mr. CT Suik, aka tinfoil mouse ears and the adventures and mouse Capades. Folks who we've had on the show a couple times, thank you to all of you for supporting us. We really, really appreciate it. [00:04:29] Speaker B: And it's. And it's. And it's not Nelman, it's Nieman. Eric Niemann from at the. [00:04:35] Speaker C: Oh, Niemann. Did I mispronounce it? Sorry, Eric. [00:04:37] Speaker B: Eric. You thought it was an L. It was an I. [00:04:40] Speaker C: My eyes, my eyesight is not great here. So there you go. That's the glasses for. But anyway, time to update the prescription. Josh, I have been looking forward to this all day. It's been a couple. [00:04:52] Speaker B: It's been too long. [00:04:53] Speaker C: Too long. I've had some long weeks, but knowing that you were coming on the show, I am so excited for this because you were on the Disney magic. You got to experience Lookout Key, I believe for the first time, which always anything first Time for Jah takes. [00:05:09] Speaker A: So I have new villain takes. The Disney magic was raining in the atrium for two days straight. I've got it. This show has everything. It's going to be great. [00:05:22] Speaker B: We have all kinds of weather to talk about. [00:05:27] Speaker C: Yeah. So, Josh, give people, for those of you who not familiar with you and your hots, give them your street creds. [00:05:33] Speaker A: Yeah. So my name is Josh, Josh Wilson. I have now I realized since 21 that was the first time I cruised with my wife. Our first cruise was on a Royal Caribbean cruise. And then the very next day we got on a Disney cruise on the Dream. In the last, what, four years, we've been on eight cruises. I'm fully addicted. My wife isn't as much. I convinced my whole family to go on a Disney cruise just a week ago. And coming off that, still loving cruising and wish I could live on a cruise ship, which I'm looking into for myself so I don't have to be in the broads anymore because I'm a villain. I am the self proclaimed DC villain. Brian and Sam, mainly Sam has verified that because anything Sam loves except a good stage show, we agree on that. We're in cahoots. But besides that, I am entirely against. So you'll, you'll hear more about that soon. [00:06:26] Speaker B: Absolutely. I will say, you know, I. We found another thing we agree on just today, Josh, which is ears. I mean, you're wearing some great ears. You've got your Mariners hat on. So it's an MLB Mariners hat. And then he's got these magnetic ears. I've seen them online. They look like a great option for folks who like to wear baseball hats and not wear, you know, headband Mickey or Minnie ears. Yeah, I'm loving the ears you're styling today. [00:06:53] Speaker A: Well, thank you, Sam. Yeah, I wore these on the cruise and these go on any hat. And if you're on YouTube, you can see these right here. And somebody on the cruise ship is like, I didn't know the mob is doing that. And I was like, for the right price, I will get you one. Just give me a little bit of time. [00:07:08] Speaker C: Love it, love it, love it. So you ended up, we're going to talk about your cruise on the Magic Tell folks. So why, why'd you book the cruise on the Magic? You went on a Galveston to see a different itinerary. [00:07:21] Speaker B: This is like, like your West Coast. For those who haven't heard Josh on our show before, Josh lives like an hour and a half north of us. So he lives like at the border of Canada, basically here in Washington State. What made you decide to sail out of Texas to San Juan of all places? [00:07:40] Speaker A: Yeah, which is such a good question. It came out of the first cruise we did was during COVID and we went on the Dream. We went to Castaway Key and we were supposed to go to Nassau, but oh no, they canceled the Nassau stop and did a double dip at Castaway. And since then my wife and I have said, we really, really want to get back to Castaway. We want to bring the kids, bring. We've done two cruises out of San Diego since then. One just the two of us, my wife and I, and then a repositioning cruise from San Diego up to Vancouver with our kids. And so we booked the, well, gosh, we booked the fantasy a year ago for a seven night, I think eastern. Cause I probably wouldn't book a western personally. So we booked an eastern and then we realized our daughter was four. We're like, we would rather wait a year. Um, and in that time, we convinced. We coerced our, my parents and my wife's parents to join us on that cruise. And the one that we picked honestly was the cheapest seven night cruise available. And that was the seven nights on the Magic from Galveston, Texas, repositioning to San Juan, Puerto Rico. And I was like, to my wife, I said, hey, this is much cheaper than what we had rebooked, which was we had booked the fantasy, rebooked on the Treasure. And then I looked at the price, I cried, I wept. I. I'm trying to think of like Disney, like montages, like I Mulan. I looked in the water and then I said, if I can save money, I want to do it. And then I found the cheapest option, which was this repositioning cruise. [00:09:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Now what about though the flight. [00:09:19] Speaker C: Wait, wait, I got to. Wait, I got to acknowledge one thing. You found more common ground with Josh because he prefers the Easter, which he said. [00:09:24] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:09:26] Speaker C: There you go. More boxes of things that you're making. [00:09:29] Speaker B: A list of things we agree on. Okay. So, yeah, there's more that unites us than divides us. [00:09:34] Speaker A: Jo. [00:09:34] Speaker B: Josh, let's. Let's put that together, right? No, but I'm curious about this money savings on the cruise because I think one consideration is do you save money on the flights though? Because then you end up having a triangle flight, right. Instead of having a round trip flight, which tends to be more expensive than a round trip flight. But I'm curious, did you find that you still came out ahead when you calculated in the cost of the flights for your family? [00:10:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm a wheeler dealer, so in every situation, I'll find the best price. And so for me, it was pretty comparable to do one ways you can do it on. On the cheaper. Not. Not super cheap, but cheaper. So we flew Alaska Airlines down to Galveston or to Houston, and then we flew Delta back, and the price was pretty. Pretty equal for us because we plan pretty far in advance, and I keep checking prices to find lower prices. [00:10:36] Speaker B: All right, good. Okay. Well, that's good. I mean, because I think that's one of the things you have to think about, right, if you're choosing a cheaper cruise, but if it's like. Well, if it's, like, over in Europe, obviously your flights are going to be way more expensive. So doing that calculus is important if you're trying to, you know, pinch pennies here. Of course. Now, how did you convince the parents and the in laws to go on this cruise? Did it take any arm twisting? Like, was there just, like, promises of the children being so happy and meeting the characters and being dressed up, you know, in their Disney attire? I mean, what was the draw for the grand? I don't think it's a hard sell for a lot of grandparents, but it can be for some. [00:11:17] Speaker A: Yeah. And I should give a caveat. Like, our. My relationship with my parents is great. My wife's relationship with her parents is great. Their relationship together. We're high school sweethearts. Um, today, they live two doors apart in the same neighborhood. [00:11:30] Speaker B: Okay. [00:11:32] Speaker A: Yeah, they live. They live 15 minutes away from us. We go to dinner every Sunday. Like, we have the quintessential American dream of a family. And so I said, hey, we booked this cruise. You're all invited. Like, no pressure, but if you want to come. And as soon as one group of grandparents does, the other one's like, I'm not missing that. So that's kind of how it. There was zero arm twisting. They were in as soon as I told them. [00:11:55] Speaker B: I love that, and I love the leverage of once one says they're in the others. That's. That's. That's fantastic. Well, we've got to talk about, you know, obviously, highlights. I know that, Brian. You have a PowerPoint kind of set up. We got to talk. You know, you. You're going to Galveston. I'm sure you were there the day before because you're not an idiot. [00:12:18] Speaker C: Sorry, hold on. Let us not label people. [00:12:23] Speaker B: Just don't. I'm sor. Sorry, but I have to evangelize. Do not Plan to arrive at your. Unless you live within driving distance. If you live within driving distance, you are perfectly okay to drive that day. Like no, no problem. [00:12:38] Speaker C: You watch one day there's going to be a reason that you need to fly in the day of and I'm just going to walk behind you. Idiot. Idiot. [00:12:46] Speaker B: Listen, one of our, one of our, one of our Facebook group members, the McDonald shout out to the McDonald family. They are on board. I forget which ship it is now, but they, they, their flights, they had all of these delays. They only live in Atlanta so they don't live that far. And they were, they were sailing out of Florida. I can't remember if they were sailing out of Port Everglades or Port Canaveral, but they, their flights were delayed by several hours. They made it in time but like they were flying the night before and they still had the ability the next morning if they're, if they couldn't get out that night, they were still going to have a chance to get out in the morning. [00:13:23] Speaker C: I'm not saying it's not a good idea. I'm just saying let's cautiously approach our audience with a little bit of reverence and respect and not call them idiots because there's all kinds of circumstances that might cause you have to fly the day of. That's on. [00:13:39] Speaker A: I mean I flown in the day of and so therefore I'm an idiot. [00:13:43] Speaker B: And so you give me a heart attack. You give me a heart attack. [00:13:47] Speaker A: I accept it. I accept the title Brian. But also Sam, let's call them riskier members of the DCL duo community. [00:13:53] Speaker C: Non risk adverse travelers. There you go. [00:13:57] Speaker B: I'm super risk averse. Especially if you're going like cross country. Right? Like that's, you have not many chances. So yeah. So let's know when did you arrive before your cruise and did you spend some time in Galveston or in Houston before? [00:14:11] Speaker A: I have adopted the idea of the Australian vacation mindset or the Australian holiday. If you've ever seen an Australian and Disney World or California, like Disneyland, which I have all of them. They always vacation for two weeks. And it dawned on me, I was like, you know what? I think that makes sense. It takes about for me eight or nine days to kind of relax. And so let's, let's plan a two week vacation. So we flew out Saturday and our cruise left on Monday. So we flew to Houston on Saturday, jumped in a rental car that we dropped off near the port, booked an Airbnb for two nights and then went on the cruise. And then at the end in Puerto Rico. We stayed there for I think three nights. And so yes, we flew in two days early. Houston was great. We booked. We went to the. I always have to like clarify not Nassau, because I'm always like, Nassau is a curse word in our house. So I have to say NASA. So we went to the NASA Space Museum in Houston. And for our son, who's 8 years old and by the way, you can see if you're looking on YouTube, our daughter here is five years old. For our son, that was probably one of the highlights of the trip was going to the NASA. Dang it. NASA. The NASA Space Museum in Houston. That was pretty cool. On the Saturday or the Sunday before we left on the cruise. [00:15:29] Speaker B: That's awesome. We absolutely love the Kennedy Space center near Port Canaveral. And so I can imagine that the one in Houston, of course, that's where. I mean, Houston, we have a problem. Obviously there's got to be a huge community there that is part of NASA and the space program in general. So that's awesome. [00:15:50] Speaker C: I feel like you have a slide in here. [00:15:52] Speaker A: Yeah, the next one should be us in front of it. And I just want to say, well, that's our family. That's who went with us. But that is our go back. Yeah, this is my parents who are behind me on the left side and my, my in laws and then our two kids. And if you go to the next slide, you guys got to see this on YouTube. This is. Oh my God, I love it. In our cruise matching wear, which you can buy these for like I think $25 on Amazon. And we had our matching garb that we did not plan on, but happened to wear it the same night at dinner. And my dad's smile was so big that we had unintentionally planned to wear our crew suits uniforms on the same night. So. [00:16:29] Speaker B: Yes. [00:16:31] Speaker C: So. So Sam, you're going to run out and pick me one up. Free prime day delivery before we head out on Saturday. [00:16:35] Speaker B: I love, yeah, I love, I love this concept. So what, what if you're not watching on YouTube, you should be. But it's basically Josh is wearing shirt and shorts that match each other. Right? So it's like a, you know, a short sleeve button up with, you know, like Bermuda style shorts with. But they match completely. And then his dad is wearing a different set but also in the same kind of color scheme. And it's just adorable. It's just completely ador adorable. I love it, Josh. I love it. I'm like, hey, I'm all for the coordinating outfits. Absolutely. No question. So, all right, let's. Oh, Tracy's saying in the comments, let's do it for the destiny maiden. Tracy, you are on. We're gonna find something to coordinate, and we're gonna at least get the ladies. [00:17:21] Speaker C: I think she's. I think she's talking about Michael and I. Not so much you and her, but. [00:17:25] Speaker A: Oh. [00:17:25] Speaker B: Oh, I. I love that idea. I mean, I'll. Either way, that's. How about both? We'll put you guys in the st. Cruise suits, and we'll just wear some coordinating outfits. I love it. All right, here's you guys in front of. [00:17:39] Speaker C: Oh, Bucky's. Tell us about Buc ee's hot take. [00:17:43] Speaker A: I may be the DCL villain, but, man, am I the Buc ee's hero. Because I love Bucky's. [00:17:49] Speaker B: I've never been to a Bucky's. [00:17:51] Speaker A: Oh, I went this last October. My wife and I, with our. Our. My in laws and my brother in law and his wife, we went to Houston. Sorry. We went to Austin, Texas. And I knew I would love Buc ee's, but, man, I'm in love. And so my kids got to meet Bucky. That's him. That's the real beaver we left with. Let's see. Way too much food, Way too much sugar. Two buc EE's onesies that my kids continually wear almost every single day. If you're in Texas, if you're anywhere near a Buc EE's and you are just hardcore American, just love junk food and garbage, go to Buc ee's. You'll love it. Like me. It'll be great. [00:18:29] Speaker C: Ashley says Bucky's for car snacks is legit. [00:18:32] Speaker B: I gotta. I gotta do a shout out to Jillian Abney because the Abneys live. Robbie and Jillian, who are patreons, they live in Texas. And Jillian, like, makes these beautiful, like, custom cookies. And I don't know if it was one of. I don't know if it was their son's birthday party or if it's a birthday party for somebody else, but she made these cookies with the BUC EE's. Like, they were incredible. I mean, I obviously didn't eat them I them on Facebook, but, like, so fun. It was like, clearly, like a Buc ee's themed birthday party. I thought that was, like, what a great. What a great theme. So shout out. Apnea family. Great job, Jillian. Love it. [00:19:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:09] Speaker C: All right. [00:19:09] Speaker A: So great time in Galveston, but we. We were there for the crew, so we were very excited to get on on board on Monday. [00:19:17] Speaker B: All right. Well, there she is. Did you take this picture? [00:19:21] Speaker A: No, absolutely not. This is. This is Google at its finest. I stole this. I'm a villain. Come on guys. [00:19:26] Speaker B: I was like, this is an incre. Extra, Josh. I was like, do you have mad photography skills I didn't know about? [00:19:33] Speaker A: I have a good personality that I can capture on video. That's about it. Besides that. [00:19:37] Speaker C: All right, well, moving on from the art heist. [00:19:42] Speaker B: This is also an art heist. [00:19:43] Speaker C: Josh clearly lined these magic bands up so well for this photo. [00:19:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I worked hard. [00:19:48] Speaker C: So did you. So apparently you use Disney band on the ship. This is. [00:19:51] Speaker B: This is. [00:19:52] Speaker C: This is the intenier. [00:19:54] Speaker A: Yeah. So let's talk about onboarding. Onboarding was smooth. We're silver level. This is our fourth Disney cruise. So we booked a noon boarding time and this is where like the. I will say my. My villain senses were tingling and the. It's embarkation, right? Yes, embarkation. The process is awful. Like one. The Internet, the website, we all know it, We've griped about it. Brian, you said recently Disney, the it people know about it but the executives don't. It is so. It's embarrassing. It's so. Because we have cruised multiple times but our parents have never been on Disney Cruise Line. They've been on other cruise lines. They had to get different embarkation times or port arrival time. So ours was noon, theirs was one. I did a bunch of research and it was basically like, oh, no way. You cannot get on the ship together unless the people who are first wait. And I'm like, why don't we just let them go with the people earlier? I don't care. You shouldn't care. Let's just be nice. [00:20:59] Speaker C: Did you have your reservations linked in the background? [00:21:02] Speaker A: Did have our reservations linked. We had linked to staterooms within three together. We booked with the same travel agent. [00:21:07] Speaker B: It doesn't matter because you do check in separately like that 30 day check in or it's not always 30 days, but you know what I mean. The check in process where you do the. That you have to do for each room and so each room gets a different. It's annoying. I totally agree with you, Josh. In this like instance you should. They should just give you all the same time, whatever that's going to be. And. But I will say enforcement of that rule is sporadic. Right. Some ports are hardcore enforcing. You don't get to go in until your port arrival time has come. Sometimes if it's a later like port arrival time, then it's kind of a free for all. And they're just letting people in and it's not a big deal. But the earlier you have, the more stringent they tend to be on that. [00:21:51] Speaker A: That and their stringency is pointless because we were boarding group 8. So we arrived at the port 45 minutes early. We line up, we get in early, we go through security. As soon as you're through security, zero waits. And I'm like, disney, I would rather wait in an air conditioned terminal than outside in the heat and the bugs and somebody being like, when's your port arrival time? I'm like, just let me go through. And as soon as we got through security, everyone's like, yep, keep going on. Keep going forward. And I was like, you know what? I wish my parents were here. I wish my in laws were here. I wish the upteen thousand dollars we spent on this cruise could start out as a whole family. But because of a policy, the answer is no. I'm like, this is where I've said it before. I will say it again. Disney, we pay too much money to be treated like peasants. Just let us be with our families and be nice about it and just say it's all good. But we all know people take advantage. So I do agree. We don't want people to take advantage of the policy. I'm just, I'm griping for a minute. [00:22:57] Speaker C: This is why we only sail with other platinum and Pearl cruisers. Really? [00:23:00] Speaker A: Yeah. And that's why we'll never sail together. Because I'm not good enough for you. Okay. [00:23:05] Speaker B: You're. You're the plebes from. [00:23:09] Speaker C: Is it Meet the Parents when he's like, it's like Ben Stiller waiting for the plane. And she's like, she's, she's like, no, you can't board yet. And there's like literally no one in the terminal. She's like, yes. Calling group two. And then like, yeah, so anyway. [00:23:22] Speaker A: Yeah, so anyway, we, we do embark on the ship. Yeah, the magicband. Plus we. I bought for me and my kids. My wife's like, I don't think I need it. Turns out she was absolutely right. We'll get there in a minute. But we get on board. Go ahead, Brian. [00:23:37] Speaker C: Before you, before we get on board, did. Was there anything you wanted to be on? The boarding times, Was there anything that you had wanted to book that you just couldn't get in advance of getting on the show? [00:23:47] Speaker A: Palo brunch. That was. Everything else kept popping up. Tastings, Palo dinner, any excursions, like simple ones. We weren't looking for the big ones. Everything popped up. But Palo brunch was the only thing that wasn't. And so we go to get on the ship, and I'm a big advocate that the announcing your name is pathetic and Disney is making it worse because we bore the magic. And there's not two lines anymore. There's not one line that there once was. There's now three lines. And it is so impersonal. It is so quick. You can tell they don't want to do it anymore, it feels like. But they have to, because that's what they're known for. It was. It was not good. That's just my two cents. [00:24:30] Speaker B: That makes me so sad. That makes me. It also makes me sad that you didn't get to board together, too, because. Or unless. Did you wait for your. For your folks to catch up? Because I feel like that moment you'd really would want to do together. Or alternatively, you and the kids go on, you know, with your. You, your wife, your kids go on and then, like, be there to cheer for the grandparents when they come on or something. [00:24:53] Speaker A: And if we were there to cheer for them, we would only be there with four other cast members, because that's the only people cheering is four cast members. And so anytime you walk by the atrium, it's like, yay, the Hernandez family. And we're like, we know. You're just being paid to say that. It's not special. I'm sorry. I'm a villain. It's not special. So anyway, yes, we went on, and since we were an early boarding group, we went right to Scat Cat. Scat Cat Lounge. Soul Cat Lounge. Soul Cat Lounge. [00:25:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:19] Speaker A: Yeah. And we asked. We're like, hey, we would love to get Palo Brunch. And Salvador was there, and he was like, okay, yeah, two people. We have everything open. What do you want? We're like, wait, what? And he's like, yeah. We're like, I don't know. The last C day. He's like, cool. 10, 11, noon, 9, you name it. And I was like, wait, what? And he literally was like, yeah, we have everything available. So we. So that's. [00:25:43] Speaker C: That only confirms. That confirms. They hold stuff back. Yeah, that confirms it right there. If it was booked out pre cruise, but then you could get anything you wanted when you got on. I doubt everyone canceled. [00:25:54] Speaker B: And we have said that, like, other than maybe, like, for a maiden voyage or something like that, we have said, like, universally, we think that they hold back a lot of inventory for onboard bookings. Now that's not the case for excursions and that's maybe not the case for drink tastings, but it is the case for spa for sure. And I think it is the case for adult dining. [00:26:17] Speaker C: So this was a repo or repositioning cruise. So I'm guessing, like, what time of year? When was this? [00:26:25] Speaker B: Like, what was just last week, Brian. [00:26:26] Speaker C: So not March twenty something. So spring break. Yeah. So, okay, so spring break would have been happening at least somewhere. Was it, was it full? Did it feel full? [00:26:35] Speaker A: Yeah, it did. It did feel full. But we are on the magic and in the magic doesn't feel full. It's why I love the Wonder and the Magic. [00:26:42] Speaker C: Because they are so small, so nice. [00:26:44] Speaker B: Yes. I got to ask you about the magic bands or Disney Band plus as they call them on the cruise line. Yeah, we think because of issues, probably international copyright or trademark issues. But anyway, curious. You said you got them for yourself and the kids and you said your wife didn't. And your wife turned out to be right. I'm curious to hear your take on that issue because I will say I like using the magic band, but I completely appreciate it is not a necessary thing. I'm going to put that out there. It is not something you have to have. I like it because I like to just go card free. Right? Like I like to walk around with just my watch, my magic band, my phone. That's it. [00:27:27] Speaker A: Yeah. And unfortunately, you don't get to go free of anything because Disney is. And this is where a villain take. I'll just, I'll just wear this. Disney is embarrassing with their technology. [00:27:37] Speaker B: True. [00:27:38] Speaker A: When you wear a Magicband plus and you go up to a bar and order a drink, they go, can you please take it off and hand it to me? I go, wait, What? I paid $50 to wear a band that's supposed to make my life easier. And now I am. Every time I order a drink, I have to fiddle with this thing on my wrist that I paid extra money for. Oh, wait. And I have to charge it in the evening. So every single night. And I bring my kids to the kids club and they go, did you charge your magic bands? And I go, yes, because I'm a high functioning adult. But the reality is you have to tell every parent, make sure you charge these. And I go, if only there was a technology that existed that allowed you to have full function and not take it off and not charge it. Oh, wait, other cruise lines have already done that for years. And Disney just let me go on the ramp all Right. All right, here's why. MagicBand technology has been out for 12 years. And besides the shining lights, it is no different than when it came out 12 years ago. And Disney is embarrassing to not upgrade it. [00:28:46] Speaker C: I will say the sea medallion is what you're describing, right? Because you don't have to charge it and it can figure out where you are on board the ship. I just don't charge my magic band, quite frankly, because you don't have to for it to work in most situations. The only situation where it doesn't work is that kids club location finding. [00:29:04] Speaker B: Yes. You don't need to. So it will work to open your door and it will work to charge like food, beverage, you know, merchandise. It will work without charge. Right. Because it is based on the RFID chip. If you look at it wrong, they fall off. [00:29:22] Speaker C: And I ordered and Larry said you have to use the little magic band keepers to keep it from falling off. [00:29:26] Speaker B: Yeah, one of the spiders. [00:29:27] Speaker A: Yeah. And I ordered my daughter, like, she loves the movie wish, so I ordered her wish one and it arrived and it was cracked. And I like looked up online and everyone's like, oh, yeah, all these arrived cracked. Like, or if you buy them literally in Disney World, they're already pre cracked. And I'm just going. And Brian, you saying, well, I just never charge it. So you're telling me you pay top dollar and you don't get full function because of how much of a pain in the butt it is. [00:29:50] Speaker C: I'll go you one further. I don't bring one for just the cruise anymore. [00:29:54] Speaker A: I need these. [00:29:56] Speaker C: I just want them to give me the, I want them to give me the functionality to add a pass to the Apple wallet on my watch so I can tap my room. It's got the same technology built into the damn thing. So like, I, I, Brian, do not like the magic Band. [00:30:08] Speaker B: I think Brian will bring them sometimes for a park trip. He will sometimes buy. Like he did buy the Treasure one. I will say I didn't like the Treasure one. I didn't see a reason to buy a new one. And so I didn't buy it. Brian did buy it. So like he, there are ones he likes because of the theming that he might buy. Right. But like, he's not a regular magic band wearer. I, on the other hand, I, I not only wear it, Josh, I charge it every single night. I want to tell you, but I'm a rule follower. [00:30:36] Speaker C: So my thing is if I'm, I'm gonna, I always wear my watch still on the Cruise. Cause I want to be able to keep up with what's going on. It's waterproof, I can get in the pool, blah, blah. I don't want the second thing on my wrist on the other side. That's the size of a watch. And then what am I trained to do when things light up and blink on my wrist? I look at them and like, I don't want to be looking at my wrist while the fireworks are so. [00:30:55] Speaker A: And I was. I would say they're perfect for somebody under the age of like 8. But the problem is, Brian, you just nailed it. My five year old daughter, the first night at dinner is staring at her wrist the whole time. And we're like, Macy, look around. You're in animator's palette. It's all lighting up. And she's looking at three little LED lights that we can see in anywhere in our world. And I'm just like, Disney, just do better. Just a notch, just a little bit. [00:31:20] Speaker C: Once my friends showed me that I could add my annual pass to my Apple wallet at Disney World and just tap my watch without opening or activating anything. I was like, done. Like, that is exactly how I want this to work. [00:31:31] Speaker B: But you can only do it at World, you can't do it at land, you can't do it on Cruise. And neither of them have that functionality. [00:31:38] Speaker C: Back, back, full circle to the failures of Disney's it. Like, why did you implement one thing at Disney World that you can't implement at Disneyland? And then. Yeah. [00:31:46] Speaker B: So I just need to put this out here though. Larry's saying the weakness of the Princess Ocean Medallion is that they frequently lose their charge before early into a cruise. And then the only fix is a replacement from guest services. [00:31:56] Speaker C: I still think my favorite one is the one that they had on Virgin, which was just this tiny little. It was like the size of this bracelet. It was a rope bracelet like this and it had a little thing here and it just worked. And they brought the payment terminal over to you and you tapped your wrist and then they, you know, they, and they, even the other nice thing they did is if you didn't want to keep. We kept the first one as a souvenir. I may not keep the next one. They recycle them at the end of the cruise. You put them in a recycling bin, they clean them, sanitize them and then reuse them. And I thought that's so smart. [00:32:24] Speaker B: It's just, listen, I'm gonna say we're getting on a ship on Saturday and I am bringing my magicband and I'm wearing my magic band, and I'm gonna charge it every night, and I'm gonna enjoy that. The light up and the vibration, because I like it and I like being hands free when I get. [00:32:40] Speaker C: And I'm gonna get a picture of Sam steering at her wrist while fireworks go. [00:32:44] Speaker A: And you're not hands free because anytime you buy something, you have to take it off. So good luck with that, Sam. [00:32:49] Speaker B: Actually, the one place you don't need to take it off is when you're buying merch. That's the one place they will just tap it right there. You don't have to take it off. [00:32:57] Speaker A: It's like they know that's a priority, and that's why you don't have to take it off. Anyway, we digress. Exactly. [00:33:01] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:33:01] Speaker C: All right, so we got pool soup on the magic here. I can tell. Is this where all the water came from? Is there a leak in the bottom of the pool? [00:33:07] Speaker A: We don't know. But when I. So literally, we were in the pool. I was in the pool with my kids on the first sea day. And that's where we spent the first two days, just at the pool on the twist and spout. And I was like, this is the best kid soup I've ever seen. So luckily, my wife and kids are in the pool, and I'm just that random guy with his shirt off taking a pict of everybody. And I was thinking, Brian and Sam are gonna love this. [00:33:30] Speaker B: I do love it. I do. [00:33:32] Speaker A: I love that. [00:33:32] Speaker C: It. [00:33:32] Speaker B: The kid soup. It's. It's. This is the quintessential what the pool deck looks like on a normal nice day. [00:33:39] Speaker C: What's. How was the weather on the cruise? Good. [00:33:41] Speaker A: Overall, guys, we were so lucky. [00:33:44] Speaker B: Other than it raining inside every. [00:33:46] Speaker A: Besides raining inside the very old decrepit ship that should be retired hot take. Every day was middle mid, mid-70s. And even out on the sea days, it was perfect. You could be out. Out on a. What's it called? A pool lounger. You could be out in the pool. All the water was warm. [00:34:06] Speaker C: We. [00:34:06] Speaker A: We were stoked. Every single day was gorgeous. Lookout key was a little windy, but we can't complain. It was great. [00:34:13] Speaker B: Yeah, well, listen, you can't complain when you're coming from the Pacific northwest at the tail end of winter. Right? Like, March is still this winter. Yeah, March is still winter here in the Seattle, where. I mean, even right now, it looks like kind of wintry outside, but. Yeah. So we. We can't. You can't beat 70s. That's I mean, we're happy if it's like, if it's in like the low 70s, we don't even need it to the 80s and we're happy. [00:34:41] Speaker A: So if it's hot. Oh, go ahead, Brian. [00:34:43] Speaker C: No, no, no, go ahead. [00:34:45] Speaker A: I was going to say high 60s and everybody's clothes come off. You just see pasty white skin everywhere in the Washington area. [00:34:52] Speaker C: Let's, let's break this down to a few categories of things. I want to make sure we cover because if we go day, I think we'll be here for a while because your takes. But let's. I, I want to dive into the. What the heck happened in the atrium that, you know, the magic did not get a water feature in a recent dry dock, but sounds like you had a water. You, you experienced the backside of water in the atrium. [00:35:15] Speaker A: Yeah. So I think it was starting either day five or day six. Full on water line. I my understanding. Water line leak at the top of the atrium. I guess there were sewage problems on the sixth floor, which is the floor we were on, but on the opposite side of the ship at the, at the aft, we were up in the forward and there were sewage issues with the bathrooms and the two previous cruises before us. And then this cruise, all of a sudden you couldn't go in the atrium. And when I say you couldn't go in the atrium, I mean, they taped up the glass on the midship elevator so you couldn't see in. They put up dividers on all the walkways. They were trying to cover up entirely that they literally had a hose making water come out of the chandelier in the atrium for two days. [00:36:08] Speaker B: Oh my goodness. [00:36:09] Speaker A: Everyone knew it. And yet they were acting like, oh, it's all, it's all fine. Mickey is gonna wash this away. And we're all like, guys, come on, we know what's going on. And there was one area where they couldn't cover it up. I think it was deck five. It was deck five or four. And you could see very clearly. Yeah, that's, that's embarrassing. And Disney knows they have an issue and they're trying their best to cover it up. [00:36:32] Speaker C: Disney Cruise Lines, Watergate. There it is. [00:36:36] Speaker A: And the sad thing, they, they use like marine grade plastic tarps in the elevators. That reeked. I mean, they, they smelt like sewage. And I'm not exaggerating because my daughter every time was like, why does it stink so bad in here? I was like, cuz Disney's embarrassed and trying to cover it up. But we all Know who. [00:36:54] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. [00:36:55] Speaker A: Yeah, it was bad. [00:36:56] Speaker B: And that's like the midship. The midship elevators are, like, the most commonly used elevators, and so people are. And the stairs, of course, those stairs. So anybody going by. I mean, just those decks is gonna smell the, you know, sewage smell. I will tell you. I remember when we sailed on. It was on the Magic, wasn't it, Brian? When we had that issue with the. The beam that was making all that noise. And our friends, the Morals, they had a sewage issue going on in their. Their stateroom. They ended up. We ended up getting, you know, a future cruise credit, I think, of, like, 15. And the morals ended up getting a future cruise credit of 15 themselves because they had this repeated issue where in their stateroom, it smelled. It was coming from one of the bathrooms. It was an issue in one of the bathrooms, but the smell was permeating into their stateroom. And, like, I mean, that would be like, if you're in one of the state rooms that's having that issue, like, you can't be in your room. Like, it is unbearable. Like, that's how bad it smells. So I can only imagine in the entire atrium, that means they can't do any of the, like, any stuff that they normally do in the atrium. I mean, you have a lot of, like, character meet and greets that happen in the atrium. I'm not saying there aren't other places that they can move it to. There are, but it. It's more limited, and they're not sort of as set up for character meet and greets. They're. The best place for the character meet and greets is, you know, the staircase. The bottom of the staircase up above. Right. Like, there's so many. Many places that they use for that. Typically. Yeah. [00:38:25] Speaker C: Wow. Not having that atrium open is a huge deal. It's a huge deal. It does sound like for everyone out there, it does sound like they got this fixed. Fixed. Although the sewage problem is. It's the same fast because it's been happening. We've experienced that now multiple times on the magic, and so like it. [00:38:43] Speaker B: And that goes to your point, Josh, I want to hear your hot take on. I mean, you said you sort of started this and saying, like, the magic needs to be retired. I, I. You know, I'm not sure. I'm not sure I want to go there because I still love the magic, and I think the wonder seems to be in better shape in that respect. The wonder seems to have had less issues. It is, you know, a few years newer, but they're not, you know, there's not a huge divide between them and how in their ages. But yeah, tell us, tell us your hot take that the Magic needs to be retired. [00:39:15] Speaker A: My. My. My hot take isn't that hot. It's just if Disney is going to continually charge the extreme premium price, then they need to make sure their product is extraordinary. And in. We could do a whole podcast on this. In recent years, a certain man who looked like a thumb in real life, Bobby Chapek, is gone. And yet the principles that we pointed towards Bob Chapek are continuing on in Disney, and they cannot charge the prices they do with a lack of quality products. Product like the Magic. And I love. I love the Magic. I love the Wonder. They're my top two favorite ships, even with a leaky atrium because the size is so nice. But if it isn't going to be functional, if they're going to continually have problems that multiple cruisers have heard about, then it's time to let it go. And that's, that's, you know, bring in Queen Elsa, whatever it takes. It's like, I know it's hard, but at some point, you need to cut your loss. [00:40:12] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, they're planning to hold on to these ships until at least 2031. 2031, you think? [00:40:19] Speaker A: I. I would bet top dollar, based on all their recent issues, that it won't make it there. That that's my tinfoil mouse ears. Bring in ct. Like, that's my guess, but we'll see. [00:40:29] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. All right. The other thing I want to talk about is. [00:40:32] Speaker B: Wait. I'm gonna see more of this PowerPoint though, too, Brian. [00:40:35] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kids, kids by a waterfall. [00:40:37] Speaker B: Kids at the twist and spout. I love that. [00:40:39] Speaker C: Love it. [00:40:40] Speaker A: And this was me beginning to talk about food in the. In the dining experience. Moving on. [00:40:44] Speaker C: Yes, Forward. Yes. Food. Go for it. Josh, how was it? Was it mediocre and lukewarm, or did you get the food you were hoping for? [00:40:54] Speaker A: Finally, this is my fourth Disney cruise, and this is the first time that I finally started agreeing with everybody who said Disney has higher quality food in the main dining halls than any other cruise line. [00:41:06] Speaker B: Huzzah. [00:41:07] Speaker A: I know. And my parents and my in laws have both been on cruises recently, and they were so impressed. They both went to breakfast in the main dining rooms and lunch and every dinner service was extraordinary. Sam, I, as always, had the black truffle presets, and I love that you keep trying them. [00:41:26] Speaker B: I. Wait, I need to say this. I love that you are like, for you like a glutton for punishment because you have said you don't like them, but you keep ordering them. Josh, what is up with that? Why do you keep ordering them? You don't like them? [00:41:38] Speaker C: Them. [00:41:38] Speaker A: I'm a. Like, Disney has its villains that everybody loves because they're like, you know, I. I love them because of their personality or their look. [00:41:45] Speaker B: I love Gaston. Right. [00:41:47] Speaker A: I love them because Gaston has a point. Dude, you are pretty stinking handsome. I'm just saying. And I'm the Gastona Disney Cruise Line. Okay? [00:41:53] Speaker B: I'm. [00:41:54] Speaker A: I have some hot takes, but they're pretty valid sometimes. So I tried the black truffle presets again. They were, bar none, the best ones I have had, and they are still as mediocre, fancy Chef Boyardee as they come. And I found. I found what I believe Disney Cruise Line should replace for the black truffle presets. That would make me a bigger fan than you are, Sam. But I'm gonna save that for a little bit later because they have a replacement available. That's so good. [00:42:24] Speaker C: So I just love that we just brought in as. As Ego. Anti. Anton Ego. Say Monsieur Boy. RD conversation. All right. [00:42:35] Speaker B: Once in a while, I love me some Chef Boyardee. Just once in a while. [00:42:39] Speaker C: Oh, my God. Do not let me catch you popping, you know, chef boy in this house. [00:42:44] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:42:46] Speaker C: Oh, no. [00:42:46] Speaker B: Spaghetti and meatballs. [00:42:47] Speaker C: Okay. You just completely undermined your credit. [00:42:50] Speaker B: No, I'm not saying, like, I'm not saying on a regular. On the regular, but it's just like, once. Like, once every, like five years, like, I'm like, I'll see one of those cans, and I'll be like, oh, I could. I got a hankering for that. I could. I could eat one of those. [00:43:04] Speaker C: Said no one ever. [00:43:05] Speaker A: Sometimes the villain becomes the hero midway through the story. And I think that just happened. [00:43:09] Speaker B: Right? [00:43:10] Speaker C: I think there was. I think Josh just experienced his redemption story right there. [00:43:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:14] Speaker C: Yeah. Are you listening to our show because you want to make the most out of your next vacation. Great news. The fabulous team over at My Path Unwinding Travel can help guide you so you don't miss a thing. There team of professional travel advisors are caring, knowledgeable, and experienced. It's why we use them to book our own travel. My Path Unwinding Travel is an authorized Disney vacation planner, which means they are recognized by Disney for their expertise and service. They have sailed on all the Disney ships, including in concierge, visited the theme parks, adventured with Disney, relaxed at Aulani, and so Much more. 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I do think the sit down breakfast is a lot better option. The only problem is it's so slow. [00:44:44] Speaker A: Yeah. And I, I had Mickey churro waffles for the first time. And I, and I liked them. They were really good. Like, it's, it's. I'm, I'm not like a huge waffle person. I'm more of an eggs Benedict guy. But I, I ate them and I was like, yeah, I under, I had them every time they had them. I understand why people love them. Like, I respect people who love Mickey churro waffles. I don't respect people who like black truffle presets. But anyway, back to the point. The eggs Benedict. The eggs Benedict. Every single morning. And I'm, I'm. It's gonna sound like an exaggeration, so I will tone it down a little bit. The muffins on the eggs Benedict were rock hard. I could not cut them with the butter knife. I would have needed a steak knife. But even then chewing them, and it was every day. And, and, and I, and I, whenever I give critiques, like, if you can't tell, like, I do have a lot of critiques, but I always want to give someone the benefit of the doubt. I always want to say, you're making buffet food. You have to put it out there. It has to cook under a heat lamp. But I ask, is there any way to just make it a little less crispy? Like just a little less like a rubber tire? And, you know, and they were always very gracious, but yeah, it was, it was not good. Scrambled eggs, as we know, runny and super not great overall, all of our family stopped going to cabanas. That's how bad it was. And again, if you're paying a premium, Disney, sometimes the villain becomes the hero midway through the story. And I think that just happened. Right? [00:46:10] Speaker C: I think Josh just experienced his redemption story right there. [00:46:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:14] Speaker A: It just doesn't meet the mark. And it's okay for all of us to not feel the pressure from our waiting staff and the pressure from everybody under the sun to give them good feedback on the comment cards and to say, please just make the buffet just a notch better and it would help us all out. [00:46:30] Speaker B: Yeah. The one thing that I will point out and Tracy saying it in the egg station for the win, like, if you want decent eggs, really the same kind of eggs that you can get in, you know, the, one of the dining rooms, if you go to that, that omelet station, you can order, they'll make you like fresh fried eggs or fresh scrambled eggs or an omelette. And those are, those are totally fine. There's nothing wrong with them. You just, it just means you're going to wait. That's the annoying part of it. And so if you have the patience, maybe have the patience, you might want to just go to the sit down breakfast. But if you have patience, it's. You still want a faster experience, but you have a little bit of patience, then I would say do the egg station. That's a better. It's at least a, a decent option for getting in that morning, those morning eggs. [00:47:17] Speaker C: I want to make sure I'm going to come back to this, but I want to make sure we get Josh's take on Lookout Key because it's his first visit. He always has an interesting perspective on these kinds of things. And he got to visit both Lookout and Cast on the same trip. So direct comparison between the two. So I'm going to find the photo of. There's Castaway. That's my daughter Macy, Lovely daughter in front of the ship on Castaway. And his son playing in the beach at Castaway. And Josh, you brought a drone. [00:47:46] Speaker A: This is not good pictures, guys. [00:47:49] Speaker B: This is stock. That's not his. I believe you probably took this picture of. True true. [00:47:54] Speaker C: Yes. [00:47:55] Speaker A: No, I found that online as well. You're welcome. [00:47:58] Speaker B: That's hilarious. [00:47:59] Speaker C: So tell us first impressions of Lookout Key. And I know you're going to have something to say about the food with this true, true barbecue thing in the, in the PowerPoint. So Lookout Key first impressions. What'd you think? [00:48:12] Speaker A: So, first off, we stopped at Castaway, and then we had a day in Nassau. Then we went to Lookout. Been to Castaway twice before. Castaway is great. It's just. It's consistent. It's good. We had a great time. Our whole family loved it. The food there, my whole family was very impressed. Now we all know it's barbecue food food, but it's good. It's high quality. We get to Lookout. I was excited to go to Lookout because I wanted to really compare. So a couple of standout things. Number one, I'd never heard anybody talk about this. And guys, I was so stoked. Like, I was so stoked. So first off, this is just funny. So I'm at the forward elevators, deck two, waiting for them to drop the rope for us to get off out on Lookout. And I'm going back up to Deck 3 to see when they open. And I'm sitting there and I being me, I start making friends with the guy next to me. And he's got his whole family. And you can tell the family's not happy. They're like, dad wants to get off the ship at 7:30. That's when all aboard or coming on shore time was. And all of a sudden we see the elevator. And the dad's like, that elevator keeps going back down to floor one. And I think people are getting off. And he goes, I think they forgot about us. So he just goes, everybody, we're getting in the elevator to his family. And. And the wife's like, I don't want to do that. I don't want. He's like, what's the worst? They're going to say, come back up. And so I saw them load in the elevator, elevator go down to one. And then I saw the elevator go way back up. And I went, oh, my gosh, they forgot about us. Now, when I got off the ship at a Disney private island, I run. I'm a closet runner. So I put on my running shoes, I put on my running outfit. I plan to run and go get the best spots. So at that point, I went, I think he's onto something. So I duck the rope, run down to the next floor. They're like, welcome here. Scan your magic band. Luckily, I didn't have to take it off anyway. And so I get off the ship and I turn back and I go, go. You guys realize you forgot to drop the rope on deck two. And the employee, the cast member, looks at me and his face sinks. He goes, oh, no, we're in trouble. And there is. I'm not exaggerating. Two thirds of the pier is full of people coming from, like, the forward or the aft, the opposite side. And they had forgot about our side, which I didn't care because I just ran ahead. I jumped on the tram. I went and picked out our beach spot. I found the perfect spot, kind of by true, true one, buy the kids splash pack, because I knew my kids were gonna love it. And then this is what I was excited to say. I was like, I'm gonna go for a run. So I went for a run out to the lighthouse. And then I said, you know, on the way over here, it looked like the running path slash, the future biking path is open on the tram line. And so I went and found the entrance and ran down the whole tram line and back to where the ship disembarks and then back down to lighthouse, and it's open. There's no signs. Everybody was cool with it, but every single cast member that on a golf cart, I kid you not, stopped. And they looked at me, and one gal was like, this is amazing. You've got this. And I was like, you could tell they had never seen somebody running on the footpath, which, again, if Disney's gonna have a premium product. And for how many months has Lookout been open? You haven't been able to use the walking path from the ship. [00:51:20] Speaker B: Come on. Opened in June, so it's been open for 10 months. Well, I guess nine months when you were there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:51:29] Speaker A: But literally, the cast members are shocked to see somebody running on the running path that should have been open when they were open, but it was really fun. So now you can. And I Learned what point 65 miles from the ship to the tram station. It is one point, I think, like, 05. So just about a mile from the first tram station to the second tram station. You can walk that. You can run it. It is a slog. It is hot. There's not shade, but you can do it. So if you're. [00:51:54] Speaker B: That's amazing. If you want to get your 5K in, you can do it on your own. Oh, I love that. [00:51:59] Speaker A: Now, jumping ahead to my overall review, couple of things. Number one, they picked the right spot. The beach there is phenomenal. If it's not windy. And I think of the next picture. Brian is my son in the sand. Or maybe it was the picture before. That sand is incredible. It is like. It is like powdered sugar that you wet down. The sand is so fine. It does look pink. It does Have a pink hue. It was a very windy day. It was a black flag. Which means you weren't really supposed to go in. You know, be on your knees. But on a. On a calm day, that beach is amazing. I think the Junkanoo bohemian style that they did was really cool. And my kids love doing the Junkanoo dance. I think the layout being very wide and having a lot of space especially for those bigger Dream Class and Wish class ships, it was super wise. I think they did a good job. Couple of things I didn't like. One, I don't think Disney could do anything about it. I literally broke my toes. Toe. I broke my toe on the beach at Lookout Key. I'm not exaggerating. I broke my toe because where the waves crashed there was natural coral. There was huge rocks. My father in law got cut up on his leg. My daughter got cut up on her leg. Multiple different areas and I broke my toe because they can't remove anything from that water. And right where the shore just washes is there's these big things that you can't see because the sand gets turned up and it. It's toe breakers. And there's no signs, there's no warnings. [00:53:26] Speaker C: So did the wave like kick it up on into your. Your foot or do you like. [00:53:30] Speaker B: Or slam you into the. [00:53:32] Speaker A: No, the. All of these coral spots are hidden and you cannot see them because where the waves crash it churns up the sand. And so you have no idea, no way of knowing that there's full on ankle breakers there. And I'm curious if more people have gotten hurt there because it was, it was substantial. Like it was enough that all of us were like that doesn't seem right. But then I said it's probably environmental. They probably leave like can't remove those things until they have to leave them. And so anyway, overall the kids splash area. Phenomenal. My kids could spend all day there. Disney this. You can tell this is their second private island. They've done so well. But there's one huge issue. One huge food. [00:54:17] Speaker B: Because you haven't talked about food. [00:54:19] Speaker A: The food. And it is not the quality of the food. I think the quality of the food is pretty good. [00:54:25] Speaker C: Okay. [00:54:26] Speaker A: The way they set up. True, true barbecue. [00:54:28] Speaker B: Oh, it's the lines. It's the lines. I know. [00:54:30] Speaker A: It's not. It's not just the line, Sam. The lines. Embarrassing. How is it Castaway has no issues. No one's compl. No one complains about lines of Castaway. You can go through the whole thing. So my daughter, 10, 20. Dad, I'm really, really hungry. We got off the ship early. Can I have a hot dog? I'm like, Macy, I got you. Girlfriend, friend. We're early. We walk over there, we're four minutes early and there's already lines forming at the windows. Which there were lines the whole time. I went back and checked and I was like, Macy, this is great. We're gonna line up at the and then go back to the picture. Brian, at the Lookout barbecue station. Because there's four stations with four big signs. I said, we're gonna go to the burger station, Macy, because that's where they're gonna have what? Burgers and hot dogs. So we jump in line, they open up, come up, we get to the front zero burgers and hot dogs. And I go, I go, Disney, if I open a lemonade stand, I will make a sign that says lemonade and somebody will walk up and assume there will be lemonade. You have just duped my 5 year old daughter and me to stand in line at opening to not get the product that your sign says. [00:55:39] Speaker C: Wait, was it that they weren't what? They weren't made yet or. [00:55:42] Speaker A: Brian, they didn't serve burgers or hot dogs at the burger or hot dog station the entire day. So then I was like, Macy, I'm so sorry. I'll talk to somebody. We'll get you a hot dog. I'm really hungry too. Let's go over here and see if there's anything at the fish station. The fabulous fish station. Guess what they didn't have at the fish station. Everybody fish. [00:56:05] Speaker C: You know what they had there? [00:56:06] Speaker A: They had burgers and hot dogs. [00:56:08] Speaker C: And I was like, what is happening? [00:56:12] Speaker A: So I my daughter a hot dog and I find like the first white shirt, like the, the upper person. And I just go, have you guys lost your mind? We're talking baseline clear signage. These lines are 20 minutes long to get up to one of the windows. And you don't even have fish at the fish station or cheeseburgers at the burger station. Like, guys, this is what is happening. And the guy looks at me, he's like, I'm so sorry. He's like, he's like, can I, what can I get you? I was like, well I, I found the hot dogs at the fish station. I Lord knows where the f right now, but. [00:56:47] Speaker B: Right. Because it wasn't at the hamburger and hot dogs. Yeah, you already went there. [00:56:51] Speaker A: And again, I will always get the benefit of the doubt. He came back to me and he was like, hey, I think they're going to change the signage sometime soon. That's what I heard. I. I checked and I said thank you for. Thank you for looking in on it. But here's my, my overall point and, and if we just zoom out from my micro situation, it is so hard to get food. They have not figured out the lines here. It should be way easier than it is. I'm sure there's some reason why, why can't we just have the castaway set up and make it easy to go through the whole station, grab one of anything and then move on with your day? [00:57:22] Speaker C: That's. We keep giving this tip and maybe you look. Did you try the second location? [00:57:28] Speaker A: We did not try the True True 2. Because I have heard horror stories about how busy True True 2 gets. [00:57:36] Speaker B: No, it's the opposite. No, it's. [00:57:38] Speaker A: I've heard everybody say go go to the true true one. [00:57:41] Speaker C: Not true true two. [00:57:42] Speaker B: No, we've said the exact opposite. [00:57:44] Speaker A: I guess I haven't been listening close enough. [00:57:46] Speaker B: Yeah, don't. Okay, so when you get well, Wait. [00:57:49] Speaker C: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. [00:57:51] Speaker B: No, no. [00:57:52] Speaker C: I'm going to let you give a tip, but to be fair, we have not been out to Back to Lookout in, in months. [00:57:59] Speaker B: I know, but everyone that we've talked to. Okay, so when you get off the tram, if you go left, you're going towards the splash pad and you're going towards True true one. If you go right, you are headed towards like there's like the kids club and the true and the original and true too. [00:58:16] Speaker A: You got it wrong, Sam. If you go right, you're going towards the kids clubs and True true one. [00:58:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:22] Speaker A: If you go left, you go towards True true two. And then if you go far enough left. [00:58:27] Speaker C: He's very. I think he's right because True true one is the furthest one down and then the next one's true choo two. And then you true one's the furthest. [00:58:33] Speaker A: To the right as you're getting off the tram. [00:58:36] Speaker B: I swear I looked at the map just the other day. I'm gonna look at the map. But you. [00:58:39] Speaker C: You guys, can you do you do that? I did want to put out a PSA because someone messaged us about this on social media. And since we love to cover sort of, you know, kids, special needs kids, someone point out something that we may have mentioned before, but I can't remember. But the splash pad at Lookout uses recycled water. So if your kids are the kinds of kids who will drink the water at the splash pad, you should be cautious. About that, because they're using recycled water at the splash pad. That is something they don't do on campus. Castaway. Josh, my question to you. You got to visit both. Which one would you like? If you had to book a cruise, you had to choose to go to one or the other. Which one are you headed to? [00:59:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:22] Speaker C: To make that clear, between Castaway and. [00:59:24] Speaker A: Lookout, my wife and I had this conversation in depth, and it was. It was close. We both were like, what. What would we do if we were going back as a family with our two kids? 100%. We would go back to lighthouse because of the splash area. That splash area with the two slides is phenomenal. [00:59:42] Speaker C: It just rush, rush out, rush out, gush out, right? Yes. [00:59:45] Speaker A: Rush out, gush out. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And the kids club. Our kids went in the kids club for, like, 20 minutes just to feel it out, and they loved it. So we would go there if it was just us because. And again, not. I know I'm a Debbie Downer and I. I feel that in my own heart, but it's like, there's not bike hiking. There's not a place to go and do a nature trail shy of the lighthouse, which isn't spectacular. Like, Castaway has everything set up. I love Castaway. I would choose that for just my wife and I, but we would choose look out for our whole family. [01:00:18] Speaker B: That's a good point. Okay. By the way, I'm wrong about the names. I thought it was true. I just looked on the map because I had it backwards. You're right. The one to the right is True True. The one to the left is True True, too. I still maintain that you should go to True True. The one to the right right over True True two. That's all I'm saying. [01:00:35] Speaker A: Yeah, but. [01:00:36] Speaker B: So I think you went to the right one. I just think it. But obviously now maybe they're both getting over subscribed. [01:00:41] Speaker C: Josh, question. Did you see any flies? [01:00:45] Speaker A: Yes, there were definitely a handful of flies. And. [01:00:49] Speaker C: But. [01:00:49] Speaker A: But I. I'm not going to complain about something like that. Like, I. I complain about, like, everywhere they, like. Yeah. [01:00:54] Speaker B: So if. If you had seen them, like, the time we had gone on that, like, first sailing or that. Or the. When Brian was on that preview cruise. It's a different story. Right. Like, seeing a handful of flies is, like, at a barbecue is normal. Right. And if, you know, you might have to shoe a couple away from your food. But it was like. It's not like it was. Which was like an infestation. Let's Put it that way. [01:01:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:01:17] Speaker A: And I will. I will throw a fit for ridiculousness. Like the signage at True True barbecue. Yeah, that's hilarious, but not kind of fine. So the one other thing on Castaway that I threw a fit about, I was not happy. Happy. I went to do the 5K. And so you run out from the start. You go on the nature preserve which goes to the lookout tower, whatever that loop is. You go down the tram way towards Serenity Bay. You come back, there is no sign that lets you know if you're doing the 5K. [01:01:45] Speaker B: Yep. [01:01:45] Speaker A: You have to do the loop again. [01:01:47] Speaker B: I'm with you there, station. Yeah. [01:01:48] Speaker A: And I'm like, what? I've only done two miles. And they're like, oh, did you do the loop twice? I went. Went. Have you thought about putting one sign that just says do the loop again, 5k? And I remembered because I looked back on my Strava runs, the same thing happened the first time I went to Lookout. How can Disney not make a simple sign so that people know how to do the 5K? This is. And this is to me, if you are paying a premium price and you cannot do basic, like again, my 5 year old understands how to set up a lemonade stand and say lemonade here. Just put signage up Disney. Come on, guys. It's easy. [01:02:25] Speaker B: Just fix it. Yeah, I'm with you on the 5k. I have thought that that's completely. For first time cruisers especially, like, completely confusing. I will tell you, I don't do one loop and then go out and then come back and do the second loop. I just do two loops. But you have to do the full two loops. I just do it two at once. And then I go out and come back. [01:02:44] Speaker C: Linda saying, we do we. We did not do the loop twice because it was pouring. We were completely soaked. I will tell you, I like to call this the difference between island time and island distance. So you know, if you only. It's. It's. It's island distance. [01:02:54] Speaker B: Yeah. It's a 5K. Who cares, right? Y. You. You get that. You earn that. Especially if it's hot or if it's raining, you earn that medal. [01:03:01] Speaker C: To be fair, to be. To be fair, you could just dump a cup of water over your head, walk up to the thing and say, I just finished the race and they give you the metal. I mean, they're not checking. They don't care. Yeah. Anyway, Josh, as we start, we're over time, but I want to give you the space. Like, what other hot takes do you have for our audience that we did not get a chance to cover. [01:03:25] Speaker B: I don't know if we have time. Guys, guys, he had a slide about the shows. I hope there's no hot takes about the show. [01:03:31] Speaker A: Oh, guys, I don't, I don't think we have the time. Let's see. Hot take number one. Disney shows are great, but they have not put the proper money into making it a great experience for the entire audience. Because all of the fun special effects are near the front. And if you sit in the first row of the second section, you will have a less than ideal experience. As my 5 year old daughter said, why are the bubbles only for the people up there and why aren't the bubbles for us back here? And I went, disney, do better. [01:03:58] Speaker B: Oh, you're a five year old. Makes me so sad. [01:04:01] Speaker A: Oh yeah, because, because the bubbles in the bubble scene for Dreams was only for the first four rows and I'm like, Disney, how much is a bubble machine? Put bubble machines in the whole auditorium so there's bubbles everywhere. That shows that. And here's my, here's my two cents. You ready? Here's my hot take. That I think we'll agree on. Disney is very, very good at being cutting edge to an extent and making sure they do things right. And then they are hands off for the next 15 years. It's why Bob Iger was the guy in the show even though Bob Chapek was the CEO. Because Disney goes all in at first and then let's go and praise just like they do in the parks that it will last as long as it can when they need to do small reoccurring updates to make things sustainable. It's why magic bands haven't fundamentally changed in 13 years. [01:04:54] Speaker B: It's. [01:04:55] Speaker A: And they should. [01:04:56] Speaker C: It's funny because I think Disneyland actually does this really well because they recognize they have a local audience and so they have to make little adjustments to shows and all kinds to, to bring that audience in more consistently, right? Like, oh, there's a new thing happening at Disneyland. Let's go check it out. Right? So like Lunar New Year got bigger and bigger and then the Food and Wine Festival came and kind of went and comes back and then they do ride overlays and they bring back shows that haven't, you know, like Soarin over California every once in a while. Like they do these little things to like attract you into the product even though you've been on the product or been to the product many, many times. So it's, it is interesting, right? I think Disney tried to do some of that with, like, Marvel Day at Sea, Star Wars Day at Sea. Like, now I'm wondering, though, like, why have we not brought back Star Wars Day at Sea on the Disney wish that has the hyperspace lounge, right? Like, why don't we bring that back on occasion just to, like, give people a reason, you know, haven't sailed in a while to say, like, because they. [01:05:49] Speaker B: Don'T need it in order to sell cruises. If they needed it to sell cruises very, very soon, which is what they did for Marvel, DC and Pixar Dancy when they needed to sell in the off season, they put those things on. They don't need it on the wish. They are able to sell that ship without doing that extra stuff. So I'm not saying they shouldn't. I'm just saying the reason is the bottom line, right? The reason is if they don't have to, they don't. [01:06:14] Speaker C: What else? Josh, come on. [01:06:16] Speaker A: So I'll just. I'll lift off list off my hot takes, and then we can do another show if you want to. Number one, Palo brunch is garbage compared to Palo dinner. We should all be choosing dinner over brunch brunch. Number two, Disney should throw away their entire budget for their tech team and replace it with a new budget because all of their tech throughout the sh. The ship is embarrassing and needs to get better. Number three, surveys from people who sail on their ships. They don't look at your surveys. They don't actually care. That's why all the cast members pester you. It's because if you write their name down, which you have to go through multiple hoops to write someone's name down, they get a bonus and get promoted, which is why they pester you about it. But the actual reviews without names, nobody reads. Last but not least, Disney nickels and dimes everywhere they can to make money at the customer's demise. If you want to take home that blue throw blanket at the bottom of your bed, you can't buy it. They will encourage you to steal one, and it will cost you $245. Cause I sat at guest services listening to a guy plead them to buy one. And the customer service representative said, if one disappears, we will charge you $245. And the guy said, but it has holes in it. And, sorry, that's all we can do. And the customer went, so do you want me to steal it from someone else's guest room? And the guy just said, sorry, sir, that's all we can Do Disney has got to step it up. [01:07:38] Speaker C: That's on the blanket piece we have. So on the Treasure at least we were able to ask our stateroom attendant and they went to store and they got a brand new one still sealed up and actually vacuum sealed so it like fit better in our luggage without taking up a ton of space. [01:07:53] Speaker B: Same with the Wish. I think the issue is the older blankets they just don't have stock of anymore. So like I don't think but I do think the newer blankets and probably will be the same on the Destiny. So on Wish, Treasure and Destiny I think you will universally be able to at least for some years until they start running low on stock buy a new, a new blanket. But yeah, it is. [01:08:15] Speaker A: Oh what? Yeah. Here's some more hot takes. Disembarkation. The luggage tags is a joke. If you leave early your luggage will be there and Disney is lying to you about it. And last but not least, I believe, and I am putting on my tinfoil mouse ears here, CT will be so happy about this. I believe in one year years time the price for a Disney cruise will come down drastically because they are going to lose their market so quickly because right now I'm not. I looked it up before this because I wanted to make sure I was correct on this. The cheapest seven night cruise that goes to one of their private islands, the cheapest without a discount right now is $6,500 for a family of four to go on an interior stateroom. The cheapest cruise for Disney Cruise Line. And I, I believe that their prices are so high that they're going to lose their market before they can catch up deals to get more people on the cruise line. So there you go. That's my, that's my villain hot take. I got them all out there. We could have a whole counseling session. [01:09:15] Speaker C: I hope you're right. And I think that there is, you know, we don't get political on the show but with everything going on in the markets today and I have a feeling things are going to get potentially a little uncomfortable for Disney Cruise Line at the prices that they're trying to charge. Charge. And so I just. [01:09:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Because I mean it's just a fact when the economy is down, travel goes first. Yeah. People start to rein in their travel budgets. Right. Because they think of like what are the things I can easily sort of cut out of my budget. Right. And it's not so easy to cut out your everyday expenses. It is easier to cut out those sort of big once a quarter or twice A year or once a year expenses by just not taking a vacation or taking a vacation that you can, you know, drive to, you know, a. [01:10:01] Speaker C: Place that, or if you're really want to cruise, you cruise on Royal instead of cruising on Disney because it costs you half as much, right? [01:10:07] Speaker B: I mean, or Carnival, frankly, if they really want to, if you really want to pinch your pennies. [01:10:12] Speaker C: It's always my infuriating thing with Disney is they, it seems like they have not fully understood it is always cheaper to keep the customer you have than to acquire the new customer. And they always seem to be chasing the next new customer and not respecting the fact that, that I think their largest word, their best advertising is a word of mouth coming from their existing customers and keeping them happy. One, retains them and two helps sell more cruises and more park strips. [01:10:38] Speaker B: I, I gotta say so I, I think we're all in agreement on this last point of that Disney might have to rein things in. But I do want to put it out there and say I haven't gotten a chance to, to respond to all of Josh's hot takes. But I do want to say you have, you have, you have not been dethroned as the DCL villain. [01:10:57] Speaker C: Like no question I wanted to ask about. I want to ask one thing about the comics comment card comment that you made, Josh, which is I actually think Disney pays. Are you saying they don't pay attention to the written comments on the comment card or the scores? I think they pay close attention to those scores. [01:11:11] Speaker A: I, I, here's my two cents. And here's the thing. They make all their employees pester you about the scores. And then at the end they, they've realized this. So they now ask a question. Were you encouraged to give good scores on, on this? And know my answer is yes, I was because I was encouraged to give good scores by my main waiter, my assistant waiter, my, my room, my stateroom attendant, the lifeguard, the bartender. Everyone was like, have you heard about the crew member satisfaction Disney? And I'm like, yeah, I, I always fill them out and I'm extremely generous and kind and I list every single name of somebody who has made my cruise great. Because I know it makes your life so much better. Better. But if everybody's doing that, what does it do? It is a false inflation of ratings. And yet what they actually look at is the word you write down and what your legitimate complaints are. Because if everybody's told, please give us good marks. I know the food may have been cold, but that's not my fault. That's that's the cook's fault. So please make it good or else I get docked pay. If every person is on hands and knees, like, please don't take food away from my children, children, then what's Disney going to do? They're going to know that, and they're going to find the place to find real input, which I believe is the handwritten cards, which I had to go to customer service, guest services, and they handed me a blank piece of paper and I said, I noticed that this time on the cruise on the app, I wasn't able to write in any names. And they smiled and went, yep, that's a common complaint. Now you have to come in and write someone's name down to say they did a great job. And I was like, that's sad. [01:12:48] Speaker B: So frustrating. [01:12:49] Speaker C: Which is so frustrating to go back to the tech comment earlier show, which is crazy. Well, because at Disney World and Disneyland, there's a way to just give a cast compliment through the app and, like. And I mean, I do it all the time. When we have a good cast interaction, I immediately stop, open the app, do the compliment. [01:13:03] Speaker B: Where was that person from? Because you have to, you know, put their first name. If you know where they're from, and of course, where they're working, it makes it easier to connect it to that person. [01:13:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:13:12] Speaker A: Well, and I. And I keep track of all the names. And then I. At the end of the, I. I write down every single person's name and write down what interaction made it special, because I know that makes such a difference. And I want. Good. And I, to be honest, I had zero negative cruise interactions. Zero, like, crew member interactions. But I want to highlight the really good ones. [01:13:33] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. [01:13:34] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, Josh, as always, it has been fantastic catching up with you. We love your unique view on the cruise line. [01:13:42] Speaker B: We love to hate you, Josh. [01:13:43] Speaker C: Let's go. I'm trying to get. I'm trying to go with the guy on a Princess cruise at some point. [01:13:48] Speaker B: I'm not saying it's. It's not personal. It's business, Josh. [01:13:52] Speaker A: I mean, we couldn't even cover the fact that I would say brunch at Palo is way worse than dinner. And that's a whole nother show. [01:13:58] Speaker B: It's a whole nother. Oh, it's a whole nother. Yeah, that's what he's saying. He's saying what? Listen, I think both are great, but I still think brunch is better. So. [01:14:06] Speaker C: Yeah, I think they're both good. I've heard. I've heard it both ways. [01:14:10] Speaker B: I've heard it both ways, Josh. [01:14:11] Speaker C: I. I know, I know. I know it's mountain biking, but, like, let folks know where they can find you on YouTube because I find your content entertaining, even though I'm not into mountain biking. [01:14:19] Speaker A: So I don't. I don't post. [01:14:21] Speaker B: He doesn't really post anymore. Brian. Yeah. [01:14:23] Speaker A: If you want to hang out with me, just go to patreon.com DCLDUO and come hang out with me. And the Palo dinner tier, that's where we'll be. [01:14:32] Speaker C: Well, thank you for that. [01:14:33] Speaker B: Very kind. [01:14:33] Speaker C: And, Josh, what's next? [01:14:35] Speaker A: Do you have any? Brian, I have a confession to make, and I'm sorry, because I want to go on. [01:14:42] Speaker B: I'm going to cheat on dcl. Yeah. [01:14:44] Speaker A: I want to go on a Princess cruise with you, Brian. And I do genuinely want to book it because I still have free cruise offers, but I'm doing something I've always dreamed of doing. Brian, you will not understand. Sam, you will be. Be jealous. I am solo cruising next month, everybody. [01:14:59] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [01:15:00] Speaker C: With who? With who? [01:15:02] Speaker A: Solo cruising. [01:15:03] Speaker B: No, but what line. He means. [01:15:05] Speaker A: Yeah, Princess cruise line. [01:15:06] Speaker B: Okay, I want to say I gotta bring this comment up because Rob says Josh is just trolling us now with that brunch comment. I'm with you, Rob. Yeah. [01:15:15] Speaker A: Guys, we. We had an incredible dinner experience. The best one we've ever had. Our waiter was great, and the brunch experience was okay. It wasn't bad. It was just okay. And I left going, dinner's better. And our waiter made all the difference. I would love to talk to you about it more, but just five installment payments of 2999 to my Venmo account. I will tell you all the details. [01:15:37] Speaker C: Well, I'd actually be curious to hear what your. Your solo cruising experience is like. So I want to know all about how you ended up solo cruising to begin with. [01:15:46] Speaker B: So it's because his wife won't go with him. [01:15:48] Speaker C: No, no. Yeah, yeah. But, Josh, thank you so much for coming on. As always, we love having you on. And so anytime you want to come on, you just shout. We'll make up a topic and bring you on. And I do want to let folks know we will not be here for our regular live show next Monday because we will be on the Treasure. [01:16:07] Speaker B: We'll be watching sage and coriander, whatever they're doing. [01:16:09] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, we may. We. We. We may have an extra episode next week. We're trying to sort that out the following week. [01:16:15] Speaker B: Not next week, but the following week. [01:16:16] Speaker C: No, no, Next week. Next week we may have an extra episode. Can't go into to why. But stay tuned for more about that. And then. [01:16:25] Speaker B: Not next week, honey. It's next week. We'll be on the ship. It's the following. [01:16:29] Speaker C: You're not, you're not. You're not understanding me. And I can't get into it with you right now. So watch out for that. So we do have some good shows lined up for you while we're gone. We will have show releases, just no live show. We will be back on Monday, April 22nd. 23rd. Is that right? [01:16:46] Speaker A: Do I have that right? [01:16:47] Speaker B: Right? 21st. [01:16:48] Speaker C: 21St. Monday. Yeah. Okay. Monday, April 21st with Danny from Adventures by Disney Friend of the Genie. And that is going to prove to be a just. You do not want to miss that show. It's gonna be fantastic. Of course you can, you can catch it afterwards. [01:17:02] Speaker B: He won't have hot takes like Josh's. I'm gonna just get that out there. [01:17:06] Speaker C: But Danny is a different kind of fun and we can't wait to have him on. [01:17:09] Speaker B: And he's so much fun. He's super entertaining. You're. The audience is gonna love him. I know that. [01:17:13] Speaker C: Yeah. And we'll be, we will Adventures by Disney with Danny, but also just talking about Danny's, you know, life with Disney a little bit history of Disney. So come on, check that out. And otherwise, you know, as always, appreciate you watching. We for all of you listening out there to this podcast afterwards, really please do head over to our YouTube to, to watch. It really helps us out and uh, we get to do fun things like PowerPoints and stuff like that and you can see and connect with all of us. [01:17:43] Speaker B: So uh, please head subscribe and like on YouTube and of course give us those five stars on Apple Podcasts and we will read your five star written review on a recorded show. [01:17:54] Speaker C: Yes. And so thank you everyone out there. We'll see you next time. Josh, we always forget to tell our guest pre show, don't go anywhere. We'll talk to you off air here after the show. And with that, thanks everybody. We'll see you next time. 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